Re: Mailing list software recommendations

[Julian H. Stacey]

> > I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman.
> > 
> > I'm not against others; thoughts?

To quote my:
http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/gen/mail/mailman/files/
  "An agressive 5 minute killer python loop in /var/cron/tanbs/mailman
  has been killing my hosts for 5 years"

I dont know if they fixed it.
What worried me was what else might be sloppy & dangerous,
& I didnt have time/ enthusiasm to do a code read through.

One day, if when & after mailman has a code read through to confirm
it has no more killer loops, I'd like to find time for a 2nd stab
to convert all my lists on majord...@berklix.org to mailman.

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Re: Mailing list software recommendations

[Jerry]

On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:34:15 -0500
Ryan Coleman  articulated:

> I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman.
> 
> I'm not against others; thoughts?

DADA Mail,  is an excellent program. It is
not in the ports system although it is on my list of things to do
eventually.

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Mailing list software recommendations

[Ryan Coleman]

I'm thinking about installing either ezmlm or mailman.

I'm not against others; thoughts?


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Re: mailing list software

[Rob Ellis]

> > 
> > >But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password
> > >to unsubscribe?
> > >
> > >That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek,
> > >mass-market crowd.
> > >

this is pretty easily changed in mailman.
a patch for passwordless unsubscribes in mailman 2.0.13 follows below...

- rob


--- Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py.orig  2002-11-12 15:36:21.140003000 -0500
+++ Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py   2002-11-12 16:02:36.610014000 -0500
@@ -511,8 +511,8 @@
 
 def ProcessUnsubscribeCmd(self, args, cmd, mail):
if not len(args):
-   self.AddError("Usage: unsubscribe  []")
-   return
+   # allow unsubscribe with no password
+   pass
if len(args) > 2:
self.AddError("Usage: unsubscribe  []\n"
   "To unsubscribe from a particular list, "

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Re: mailing list software

[Kirk Bailey]

Um, may I point out a more convient MLM?

tinylist.

Web membership management, simple form- click a radio button for
subscribe/unsubscribe, fill in your email address, click SEND. You get a letter.
Reply to it. No passwords needed.

It sends you a confirming letter telling you what it did. If there is a custom
welcome/farewell message for the list, it sends you that instead. Simple. Grab
the mouse, click, choose. simple.

site:
http://www.tinylist.org/

Master menu:
http://www.tinylist.org/cgi-bin/TLmastermenu.py

Available lists:
http://www.tinylist.org/cgi-bin/TLwebmgr.py


Anthony Abby wrote:
> 
> >But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password
> >to unsubscribe?
> >
> >That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek,
> >mass-market crowd.
> >

sure does.

> >Len
> >
> 
>Yes they do, and not to mention that, but most people will subscribe/unsubscribe from 
>the
>graphical interface anyway, and I think most people who are familiar with mailing 
>lists will
>attest, it's HORROR trying to admin a list hosted by Mailman.  Until the developers 
>make the
>unsubscribe "feauture" more pronounced in Mailman, you're always going to have lord 
>knows how
>many screaming people on your list who don't know how to unsubscribe.  It's 
>terriblecheck
>out the Redhat mailing lists sometime!
>
flinch...
 
> Anthony
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Now you know why I wrote tinylist- along with the headaches attendant to
majordomo...



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RE: mailing list software

[Derrick Ryalls]

> Subject: Re: mailing list software
> 
> 
> At 01:07 PM 10.22.2002 -0400, Anthony Abby wrote:
> >>But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list 
> >>password
> >>to unsubscribe?
> >>
> >>That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek,
> >>mass-market crowd.
> >>
> >>Len
> >>
> >
> >Yes they do, and not to mention that, but most people will
> subscribe/unsubscribe from the graphical interface anyway, 
> and I think most people who are familiar with mailing lists 
> will attest, it's HORROR trying to admin a list hosted by 
> Mailman.  Until the developers make the unsubscribe 
> "feauture" more pronounced in Mailman, you're always going to 
> have lord knows how many screaming people on your list who 
> don't know how to unsubscribe.  It's terrible check out 
> the Redhat mailing lists sometime!
> >
> >Anthony
> >
> 
> In fact, mailing lists are the best place to find out about 
> programs. Just watch and read for a few weeks and you'll have 
> a very good idea about what to expect. Also, look at their archives.
> 
> I was considering mailman and tracked the mailing list, plus 
> have been subscribed to lists using MM and decided it was not 
> ready for prime time yet.
> 
> I use majordomo which does the job well... (of course I will 
> tout what I
> use!) it's easy to operate and has a solid performance 
> record. Plus, it's free too if the is part of the criteria.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jack L. Stone,
> Administrator
> 
> SageOne Net
> http://www.sage-one.net
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I too use majordomo, originally I had it working with sendmail, then I
upgraded to qmail.  I maintain 2 lists with little effort.  Besides, if
it is good enough for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, it is good enough
for me.



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Re: mailing list software

[Jack L. Stone]

At 01:07 PM 10.22.2002 -0400, Anthony Abby wrote:
>>But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password 
>>to unsubscribe?
>>
>>That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, 
>>mass-market crowd.
>>
>>Len
>>
>
>Yes they do, and not to mention that, but most people will
subscribe/unsubscribe from the graphical interface anyway, and I think most
people who are familiar with mailing lists will attest, it's HORROR trying
to admin a list hosted by Mailman.  Until the developers make the
unsubscribe "feauture" more pronounced in Mailman, you're always going to
have lord knows how many screaming people on your list who don't know how
to unsubscribe.  It's terrible check out the Redhat mailing lists
sometime!
>
>Anthony
>

In fact, mailing lists are the best place to find out about programs. Just
watch and read for a few weeks and you'll have a very good idea about what
to expect. Also, look at their archives.

I was considering mailman and tracked the mailing list, plus have been
subscribed to lists using MM and decided it was not ready for prime time yet.

I use majordomo which does the job well... (of course I will tout what I
use!) it's easy to operate and has a solid performance record. Plus, it's
free too if the is part of the criteria.

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
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Re: mailing list software

[Anthony Abby]

>But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password 
>to unsubscribe?
>
>That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, 
>mass-market crowd.
>
>Len
>

Yes they do, and not to mention that, but most people will subscribe/unsubscribe from 
the graphical interface anyway, and I think most people who are familiar with mailing 
lists will attest, it's HORROR trying to admin a list hosted by Mailman.  Until the 
developers make the unsubscribe "feauture" more pronounced in Mailman, you're always 
going to have lord knows how many screaming people on your list who don't know how to 
unsubscribe.  It's terrible check out the Redhat mailing lists sometime!

Anthony

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Re: mailing list software

[Anthony Abby]

I think Listar/Ecartis is much better than Mailman.  Check it out at 
http://www.listar.org.  It's also free and has a ton of options.

Anthony

>>I was going to look at mail/listmanager to see if it was good enough for
>
>I recommend Mailman:
>
>/usr/ports/mail/mailman
>
>It's from GNU (free!), works well, and is well supported. It installed
>simply and easily for me.
>


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Re: mailing list software

[Len Conrad]

I recommend Mailman:

/usr/ports/mail/mailman

It's from GNU (free!), works well, and is well supported. It installed
simply and easily for me.


But does a list subscriber need to find/remember and use his list password 
to unsubscribe?

That stupid requirement pretty much kills mailman for the non-geek, 
mass-market crowd.

Len


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Re: mailing list software

[Jonathan Arnold]

>I was going to look at mail/listmanager to see if it was good enough for

I recommend Mailman:

/usr/ports/mail/mailman

It's from GNU (free!), works well, and is well supported. It installed
simply and easily for me.

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mailing list software

[Douglas Denault]

I was going to look at mail/listmanager to see if it was good enough for my
purposes. Its site seems to be in the xo name space and hence not
reachable. Does anyone know if this is still being actively maintained and if so
how to get it?


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