Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
On Sun 2012-10-21 18:10:06 UTC+0100, Arthur Chance (free...@qeng-ho.org) wrote: Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. I don't think there's any harm in leaving the pkg_* programs there? Of course if you delete them, a binary upgrade with freebsd-update will most likely put them back. I've switched to pkgng on two machines here. Working well so far, although pkg2ng had some initial problems with the conversion due to some conflicting files that had been installed by different packages... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
I have tried it. There's my report ;) Without pkg_*, pkg2ng doesn't work. pkg info shows only himself (pkg-1.0.1). And I have no idea how to register all this stuff which I have already into pkgng database. New [re]installations from ports and directly from pkg work fine. So for new installation it seems to be fine, for old you have to run pkg2ng before you will remove pkg_* binaries. On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 18:36 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 21/10/2012 18:10, Arthur Chance wrote: Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. There is no particularly good reason to keep pkg_tools around once you've made the switch to pkgng. pkgng should provide replacements for all the pkg_tool functionality and slot into its place quite smoothly. However, I'm not sure that there's been adequate testing on a pkg_tools-free setup, so it is not entirely outside the bounds of possibility that you might run into some odd problems. If you do, please report what happens, as that's definitely a bug that needs fixing. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
On 22/10/2012 11:57, mbsd wrote: I have tried it. There's my report ;) Without pkg_*, pkg2ng doesn't work. pkg info shows only himself (pkg-1.0.1). And I have no idea how to register all this stuff which I have already into pkgng database. Correct. You need pkg_tools to run pkg2ng. But that's the last thing you'll ever need pkg_tools for... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
On 10/22/12 11:17, andrew clarke wrote: On Sun 2012-10-21 18:10:06 UTC+0100, Arthur Chance (free...@qeng-ho.org) wrote: Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. I don't think there's any harm in leaving the pkg_* programs there? I doubt whether there's any harm either, it's just the principle of not having useless binaries lying around. Partly it's an old (and obsolete) habit developed in the days when the largest disks were a handful of megabytes in size, but it's also good security practice not to install anything that's unnecessary. Of course if you delete them, a binary upgrade with freebsd-update will most likely put them back. I always upgrade from source, and cut out unused subsystems with the WITHOUT_* knobs in /etc/src.conf, so that's not going to be a problem. I've switched to pkgng on two machines here. Working well so far, although pkg2ng had some initial problems with the conversion due to some conflicting files that had been installed by different packages... Ditto. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
On 10/21/12 18:36, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 21/10/2012 18:10, Arthur Chance wrote: Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. There is no particularly good reason to keep pkg_tools around once you've made the switch to pkgng. pkgng should provide replacements for all the pkg_tool functionality and slot into its place quite smoothly. However, I'm not sure that there's been adequate testing on a pkg_tools-free setup, so it is not entirely outside the bounds of possibility that you might run into some odd problems. If you do, please report what happens, as that's definitely a bug that needs fixing. Will do. Thanks to all who worked on pkgng. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkgng and the old pkg_* programs
On 21/10/2012 18:10, Arthur Chance wrote: Now that portmaster officially supports pkgng I've converted to using it. Is there any reason to keep the old pkg_* programs around, or can I delete them and add WITHOUT_PKGTOOLS to my /etc/src.conf? I'm running RELEASE-9.0 on amd64 and will update to REL-9.1 as soon as it arrives if that matters. There is no particularly good reason to keep pkg_tools around once you've made the switch to pkgng. pkgng should provide replacements for all the pkg_tool functionality and slot into its place quite smoothly. However, I'm not sure that there's been adequate testing on a pkg_tools-free setup, so it is not entirely outside the bounds of possibility that you might run into some odd problems. If you do, please report what happens, as that's definitely a bug that needs fixing. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
