Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[Tore Lund]

mato wrote:
> 
> Do you think I could supply raw disk device directly to Qemu ??

As I understand it, you HAVE TO use a raw disk for qemu at present,
though I cannot recall the reason for it right now.  But this will not
help you "make use of existing Windows (XP) installation".  I believe
the OS itself, at the very least, must be installed by qemu - correct me
if I am wrong.

In any case, the following instructions work for me:

http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44204
-- 
Tore


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Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[Bill Moran]

In response to "mato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:40:43 -0500, Bill Moran wrote
> > "mato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:50 +0200, albi albinootje wrote
> > > > On 10/19/06, martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and 
> > > > > some
> > > > > others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows
> > > > > (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and
> > > > > install everything from scratch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing
> > > > > "emulation" software ??
> > > > 
> > > > you didn't mention whether you're using NTFS or not on the windows-
> > > > partition, if you do use NTFS then you already have a problem 
> > > > because you can't write to that partition by default (not sure how 
> > > > far the rw-development is on FreeBSD)
> > > > 
> > > > vmware server gives you the possibility to use "raw partitions",
> > > > i've tried that with a linux-partition on an external disc within vmware
> > > > 
> > > > wine is also a possibility, but wine will by default let you start
> > > > only 1 app, YMMV
> > > > 
> > > > last time i tried qemu it didn't support "raw partition" access afair
> > 
> > According to the docs, it does support "raw" partition images, which 
> > you should be able to create using dd.  I haven't tried this, though.
> 
> Do you think I could supply raw disk device directly to Qemu ??

It's not _designed_ to work that way, but given the fact that "everything
is a file" in Unix, it's entirely possible that it will work.

Definitely make a backup before trying.

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Bill Moran
Collaborative Fusion Inc.
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Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[mato]

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 06:40:43 -0500, Bill Moran wrote
> "mato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:50 +0200, albi albinootje wrote
> > > On 10/19/06, martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some
> > > > others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs:
> > > >
> > > > I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows
> > > > (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and
> > > > install everything from scratch.
> > > >
> > > > Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing
> > > > "emulation" software ??
> > > 
> > > you didn't mention whether you're using NTFS or not on the windows-
> > > partition, if you do use NTFS then you already have a problem 
> > > because you can't write to that partition by default (not sure how 
> > > far the rw-development is on FreeBSD)
> > > 
> > > vmware server gives you the possibility to use "raw partitions",
> > > i've tried that with a linux-partition on an external disc within vmware
> > > 
> > > wine is also a possibility, but wine will by default let you start
> > > only 1 app, YMMV
> > > 
> > > last time i tried qemu it didn't support "raw partition" access afair
> 
> According to the docs, it does support "raw" partition images, which 
> you should be able to create using dd.  I haven't tried this, though.


Do you think I could supply raw disk device directly to Qemu ??
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Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[Bill Moran]

"mato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:50 +0200, albi albinootje wrote
> > On 10/19/06, martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some
> > > others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs:
> > >
> > > I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows
> > > (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and
> > > install everything from scratch.
> > >
> > > Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing
> > > "emulation" software ??
> > 
> > you didn't mention whether you're using NTFS or not on the windows-
> > partition, if you do use NTFS then you already have a problem 
> > because you can't write to that partition by default (not sure how 
> > far the rw-development is on FreeBSD)
> > 
> > vmware server gives you the possibility to use "raw partitions",
> > i've tried that with a linux-partition on an external disc within vmware
> > 
> > wine is also a possibility, but wine will by default let you start
> > only 1 app, YMMV
> > 
> > last time i tried qemu it didn't support "raw partition" access afair

According to the docs, it does support "raw" partition images, which you
should be able to create using dd.  I haven't tried this, though.

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Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[mato]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:09:50 +0200, albi albinootje wrote
> On 10/19/06, martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some
> > others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs:
> >
> > I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows
> > (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and
> > install everything from scratch.
> >
> > Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing
> > "emulation" software ??
> 
> you didn't mention whether you're using NTFS or not on the windows-
> partition, if you do use NTFS then you already have a problem 
> because you can't write to that partition by default (not sure how 
> far the rw-development is on FreeBSD)
> 
> vmware server gives you the possibility to use "raw partitions",
> i've tried that with a linux-partition on an external disc within vmware
> 
> wine is also a possibility, but wine will by default let you start
> only 1 app, YMMV
> 
> last time i tried qemu it didn't support "raw partition" access afair
> 
> if i were you i would use vmware-server and do a fresh install,
> easiest and safest


well, i don't expect write access to become available on freebsd any time
soon.  actually, i've been thinking of using the new ntfs-3g
 via fuse4bsd  but that's
not available on freebsd (yet).

regarding vmware, i've been looking forward to new vmware server, which is
free now, but haven't noticed any info on it being ported to freebsd, either.

martin
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Re: running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[albi albinootje]

On 10/19/06, martinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some
others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs:

I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows
(XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and
install everything from scratch.

Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing
"emulation" software ??


you didn't mention whether you're using NTFS or not on the windows-partition,
if you do use NTFS then you already have a problem because you can't
write to that
partition by default (not sure how far the rw-development is on FreeBSD)

vmware server gives you the possibility to use "raw partitions",
i've tried that with a linux-partition on an external disc within vmware

wine is also a possibility, but wine will by default let you start
only 1 app, YMMV

last time i tried qemu it didn't support "raw partition" access afair

if i were you i would use vmware-server and do a fresh install,
easiest and safest
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running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation

[martinko]

Hello list,

I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some
others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs:

I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows
(XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and
install everything from scratch.

Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing
"emulation" software ??

I would appreciate any suggestions, experiences, how-to's, links, etc.

Many thanks!

Martin
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