Re: sharing desktop witn VNC

2005-09-23 Thread stan
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:41:37PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 On Sep 22, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Micah wrote:
 
 
 
 stan wrote:
 
 I'm trying to use tighvnc to share a desktop with a friend,
 for educational purposes.
 I've been able to run vncserver on my local machine, and connect  
 to it with vncviewer. I've also been able to ssh to his
 machine (with X forwarding turned on) and do the same thing, but
 this is really slow.
 In the case of his FreebSD machine I just got the simple session
 that xstart produces.
 How can I star vncserver on his FreebSD machine, such that I get
 a full blown KDE desktop? This is BTW what he gets when he logs in
 via kdm. Is there a way to share an already running
 X session with vnc? Or do I have to start a new session using  
 vncserver?
 
 
 KDE provides a VNC server that allows you to connect to an already  
 running KDE session.  From the KDE control center select Internet  
  Network -- Desktop Sharing.  Adjust the settings to your  
 liking. I've had keyboard problems with it when connecting from the  
 RealVNC client (massively repeated characters making it impossible  
 to type anything).
 
 Later,
 Micah
 
 Running ssh -C is wise as it compresses the ssh stream. I don't  
 suggest straight VNC as it's all plaintext data going across a  
 network, where using port forwarding via SSH would decrease your  
 problems to near nil in terms of someone sniffing your traffic.
 -Garrett

Thanks, that sounds like good advice.

Can you point me to some documnetation as to how ot do this?
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Re: sharing desktop witn VNC

2005-09-23 Thread stan
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 07:31:17PM -0700, Micah wrote:
 
 
 stan wrote:
 I'm trying to use tighvnc to share a desktop with a friend,
 for educational purposes.
 
 I've been able to run vncserver on my local machine, and 
 connect to it with vncviewer. I've also been able to ssh to his
 machine (with X forwarding turned on) and do the same thing, but
 this is really slow.
 
 In the case of his FreebSD machine I just got the simple session
 that xstart produces.
 
 How can I star vncserver on his FreebSD machine, such that I get
 a full blown KDE desktop? This is BTW what he gets when he logs in
 via kdm. Is there a way to share an already running
 X session with vnc? Or do I have to start a new session using vncserver?
 
 KDE provides a VNC server that allows you to connect to an already 
 running KDE session.  From the KDE control center select Internet  
 Network -- Desktop Sharing.  Adjust the settings to your liking. 
 I've had keyboard problems with it when connecting from the RealVNC 
 client (massively repeated characters making it impossible to type 
 anything).
 
I just looked on his machine, which is running KDE version 3.4.2, and I can't
find that choice in his control center. Now I _do_ see it on a machine
I have here that is runnig KDE version 3.3.2. His machine machine is
FreebSD 4.11 STABLE, and the machine I happen to have KDE on is Debian.

Could it be in a different place on his?

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Re: sharing desktop witn VNC

2005-09-23 Thread Micah



stan wrote:

On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 07:31:17PM -0700, Micah wrote:



stan wrote:


I'm trying to use tighvnc to share a desktop with a friend,
for educational purposes.

I've been able to run vncserver on my local machine, and 
connect to it with vncviewer. I've also been able to ssh to his

machine (with X forwarding turned on) and do the same thing, but
this is really slow.

In the case of his FreebSD machine I just got the simple session
that xstart produces.

How can I star vncserver on his FreebSD machine, such that I get
a full blown KDE desktop? This is BTW what he gets when he logs in
via kdm. Is there a way to share an already running
X session with vnc? Or do I have to start a new session using vncserver?


KDE provides a VNC server that allows you to connect to an already 
running KDE session.  From the KDE control center select Internet  
Network -- Desktop Sharing.  Adjust the settings to your liking. 
I've had keyboard problems with it when connecting from the RealVNC 
client (massively repeated characters making it impossible to type 
anything).




I just looked on his machine, which is running KDE version 3.4.2, and I can't
find that choice in his control center. Now I _do_ see it on a machine
I have here that is runnig KDE version 3.3.2. His machine machine is
FreebSD 4.11 STABLE, and the machine I happen to have KDE on is Debian.

Could it be in a different place on his?


Make sure he has kdenetwork installed (pkg_info kdenetwork\*).  If he 
has kdenetwork try running krfb from a command prompt.


Later
Micah
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sharing desktop witn VNC

2005-09-22 Thread stan
I'm trying to use tighvnc to share a desktop with a friend,
for educational purposes.

I've been able to run vncserver on my local machine, and 
connect to it with vncviewer. I've also been able to ssh to his
machine (with X forwarding turned on) and do the same thing, but
this is really slow.

In the case of his FreebSD machine I just got the simple session
that xstart produces.

How can I star vncserver on his FreebSD machine, such that I get
a full blown KDE desktop? This is BTW what he gets when he logs in
via kdm. Is there a way to share an already running
X session with vnc? Or do I have to start a new session using vncserver?

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Re: sharing desktop witn VNC

2005-09-22 Thread Micah



stan wrote:

I'm trying to use tighvnc to share a desktop with a friend,
for educational purposes.

I've been able to run vncserver on my local machine, and 
connect to it with vncviewer. I've also been able to ssh to his

machine (with X forwarding turned on) and do the same thing, but
this is really slow.

In the case of his FreebSD machine I just got the simple session
that xstart produces.

How can I star vncserver on his FreebSD machine, such that I get
a full blown KDE desktop? This is BTW what he gets when he logs in
via kdm. Is there a way to share an already running
X session with vnc? Or do I have to start a new session using vncserver?


KDE provides a VNC server that allows you to connect to an already 
running KDE session.  From the KDE control center select Internet  
Network -- Desktop Sharing.  Adjust the settings to your liking. 
I've had keyboard problems with it when connecting from the RealVNC 
client (massively repeated characters making it impossible to type 
anything).


Later,
Micah
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Re: sharing desktop witn VNC

2005-09-22 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Sep 22, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Micah wrote:




stan wrote:


I'm trying to use tighvnc to share a desktop with a friend,
for educational purposes.
I've been able to run vncserver on my local machine, and connect  
to it with vncviewer. I've also been able to ssh to his

machine (with X forwarding turned on) and do the same thing, but
this is really slow.
In the case of his FreebSD machine I just got the simple session
that xstart produces.
How can I star vncserver on his FreebSD machine, such that I get
a full blown KDE desktop? This is BTW what he gets when he logs in
via kdm. Is there a way to share an already running
X session with vnc? Or do I have to start a new session using  
vncserver?




KDE provides a VNC server that allows you to connect to an already  
running KDE session.  From the KDE control center select Internet  
 Network -- Desktop Sharing.  Adjust the settings to your  
liking. I've had keyboard problems with it when connecting from the  
RealVNC client (massively repeated characters making it impossible  
to type anything).


Later,
Micah


Running ssh -C is wise as it compresses the ssh stream. I don't  
suggest straight VNC as it's all plaintext data going across a  
network, where using port forwarding via SSH would decrease your  
problems to near nil in terms of someone sniffing your traffic.

-Garrett
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