Re: upgrading form 7.1-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE?
On 6/16/10 1:06 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 16/06/2010 17:48:03, Tom Worster wrote: as usual i let things slip until the servers are a couple of versions behind and then i face the worries of upgrading. will freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade work on a 7.1-RELEASE system or do i need to take intermediate steps? does anyone have experience or advice they'd be willing to share? and if all goes well, when i boot 8.0 are my deamons going to start and be happy: Server version: 5.0.87 FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.87 Sphinx 0.9.8.1-release (r1533) Server version: Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) PHP 5.2.11 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.7 (cli) (built: Nov 20 2009 16:10:58) Yes, this upgrade should work in one step. Make sure to install the compat7x port, and all the software you installed under 7.1 will be able to keep running. Note however that the compat7x stuff is merely a measure to give yourself a breathing space between upgrading the OS and rebuilding all your ports. excellent. i wasn't aware of the port. would the order to do things be: update ports with portsnap, install misc/compat7x, upgrade with freebsd-update and reboot? You really do have to reinstall all the ports on a major version upgrade: while installed ports will still run if you don't touch them, as soon as you start updating anything, or installing anything new, it will start to go horribly poo unless you haved reinstalled everything. yes. i plan to upgrade all the apps to the current ports shortly after the base upgrade. I note that the software you're running is all a few versions behind what's current, and some of those updates involve pretty significant changes (eg. php 5.2 to 5.3; changes to the way apache ports work; i've already ported the code for 5.3. Oracle pushing to drop support for MySQL 5.0) so a bit of forethough and planning is advised, but there's no real deal-breaker there. this has been a vexing concern for some considerable time now. but it's perhaps out of scope here. if we had better insight into where oracle is taking it... Also, if you wait for a few weeks you could go directly to 8.1-RELEASE, which might be a better choice. There have been some pretty significant bugfixes between 8.0-RELEASE and 8.1-RELEASE. bug fixes sound nice. a few weeks you say? thank you for the input, matthew -- much appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading form 7.1-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/06/2010 13:41:43, Tom Worster wrote: On 6/16/10 1:06 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk would the order to do things be: update ports with portsnap, install misc/compat7x, upgrade with freebsd-update and reboot? You need to be running 8.0 or above before you can install compat7x, so it's upgrade with freebsd-update, reboot, install compat7x, either reboot again, or restart any daemons that didn't start first time. I think. I'm assuming freebsd-update zaps the 7.x shlibs when you do a 7.x - 8.0 upgrade, BICBW. Oracle pushing to drop support for MySQL 5.0) so a bit of forethough and planning is advised, but there's no real deal-breaker there. this has been a vexing concern for some considerable time now. but it's perhaps out of scope here. if we had better insight into where oracle is taking it... I think it's pretty clear that Oracle are going to maintain MySQL as a freely available database product for the foreseeable future. They are keen to get as many people as possible onto the current release though, so 5.0 is being deprecated in favour of 5.1, and 5.5 is rapidly approaching. 5.1 is pretty much a super-set of 5.0 so you're not likely to have to do any more than run some regression tests to show your schema and SQL still works correctly. Also, if you wait for a few weeks you could go directly to 8.1-RELEASE, which might be a better choice. There have been some pretty significant bugfixes between 8.0-RELEASE and 8.1-RELEASE. bug fixes sound nice. a few weeks you say? Probably more like a month, actually. The schedule is here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/schedule.html but it's not unusual for the release to be delayed as RE team work on ensuring it is of the required quality. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwaJcUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxNigCeNis4YIVeOSk21wizLxNSs+g+ LVQAn0xKxdN/G0Fpjewk4+UJvEznPm30 =4FQM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrading form 7.1-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE?
as usual i let things slip until the servers are a couple of versions behind and then i face the worries of upgrading. will freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade work on a 7.1-RELEASE system or do i need to take intermediate steps? does anyone have experience or advice they'd be willing to share? and if all goes well, when i boot 8.0 are my deamons going to start and be happy: Server version: 5.0.87 FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.87 Sphinx 0.9.8.1-release (r1533) Server version: Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) PHP 5.2.11 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.7 (cli) (built: Nov 20 2009 16:10:58) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading form 7.1-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE?
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:48:03PM -0400, Tom Worster thus spake: as usual i let things slip until the servers are a couple of versions behind and then i face the worries of upgrading. will freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade work on a 7.1-RELEASE system or do i need to take intermediate steps? does anyone have experience or advice they'd be willing to share? and if all goes well, when i boot 8.0 are my deamons going to start and be happy: Server version: 5.0.87 FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.87 Sphinx 0.9.8.1-release (r1533) Server version: Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) PHP 5.2.11 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.7 (cli) (built: Nov 20 2009 16:10:58) http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.0R/announce.html Instructions for using freebsd-update are found in the announcement, and what more needs to be done in moving from one release to another major branch. -j ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading form 7.1-RELEASE to 8.0-RELEASE?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/06/2010 17:48:03, Tom Worster wrote: as usual i let things slip until the servers are a couple of versions behind and then i face the worries of upgrading. will freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade work on a 7.1-RELEASE system or do i need to take intermediate steps? does anyone have experience or advice they'd be willing to share? and if all goes well, when i boot 8.0 are my deamons going to start and be happy: Server version: 5.0.87 FreeBSD port: mysql-server-5.0.87 Sphinx 0.9.8.1-release (r1533) Server version: Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) PHP 5.2.11 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.7 (cli) (built: Nov 20 2009 16:10:58) Yes, this upgrade should work in one step. Make sure to install the compat7x port, and all the software you installed under 7.1 will be able to keep running. Note however that the compat7x stuff is merely a measure to give yourself a breathing space between upgrading the OS and rebuilding all your ports. You really do have to reinstall all the ports on a major version upgrade: while installed ports will still run if you don't touch them, as soon as you start updating anything, or installing anything new, it will start to go horribly poo unless you haved reinstalled everything. I note that the software you're running is all a few versions behind what's current, and some of those updates involve pretty significant changes (eg. php 5.2 to 5.3; changes to the way apache ports work; Oracle pushing to drop support for MySQL 5.0) so a bit of forethough and planning is advised, but there's no real deal-breaker there. Also, if you wait for a few weeks you could go directly to 8.1-RELEASE, which might be a better choice. There have been some pretty significant bugfixes between 8.0-RELEASE and 8.1-RELEASE. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwZBKEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwp/QCfRyRsbjlb1QkyLuMcmat9DTAL mPMAn1ad7v6cHKVNJLSiwBfW5qJtss+B =HMSM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
