Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread Rocky Borg
I haven't used vmware so I can't say if it's better but it didn't take 
me long to get freebsd up and running with virtualbox. Just follow the 
instructions at http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox


You do have to install /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/ on 
the guest. I got FreeBSD 8.1 and PC-BSD 8.1 both up and running on it. 
I'm having some sound issues but other than that it works great, in 
fullscreen mode you can't even tell it's running as a guest on a host 
machine.


On 7/27/2010 9:47 PM, kalin m wrote:


hi all...

messing around with vmware and fbsd 8...

has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it?
i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty 
nice interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently 
doesn't know much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest.


so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 
guests to go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 
5, 4, 3. tried six. it wants some disk. there is also the 
open-vmware-tools. is that open one better to play with the esxi 4.1 
an the vmsphere thing?


also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that 
plays nice and with fbsd?


thanks...
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Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On 28 July 2010 00:47, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote:

 messing around with vmware and fbsd 8...

 has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it?
 i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty nice
 interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently doesn't know
 much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest.

We use paid-for ESX, not ESXi, but that shouldn't make a difference.
FreeBSD 8 and ESX play great together, at least in my circumstances.

Setups are pretty generic - minimal installs + ports with different
VMs for subversion, apache, postgresql, OSSEC, netflow collectors,
snort and even a few virtual FreeBSD firewalls.

Overall I couldn't be more pleased.

 so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to
 go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried
 six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open
 one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing?

I install vmware-guestd6 from ports so I can eliminate all of the X
libraries getting installed. ESXi should come with a freebsd.iso file
that you can use for the tools install (I'm not one of our ESX
administrators so I can't speak definitively but I did get an ISO from
them for the tools installation).

 also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that plays nice
 and with fbsd?

The rumour is that FreeBSD does great as Xen domU but then you have to
have a Linux or Windows dom0 (perhaps Mac OS X would work, too?). I'm
doing a CentOS install right now, specifically to try FreeBSD under
Xen.

As someone else mentioned, VirtualBox and FreeBSD get along great
though I'm not entirely sure *I* would use it for a production
environment. I ran VirtualBox on a FreeBSD host with FreeBSD, OpenBSD,
Linux, Windows XP and Windows 7 Ultimate guests and my issues were
minimal. It's the only virtualisation software installed on this
workstation.

kmw

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Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread Steve Polyack

On 07/28/10 09:05, Kevin Wilcox wrote:

On 28 July 2010 00:47, kalin mka...@el.net  wrote:

   

so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to
go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried
six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open
one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing?
 

I install vmware-guestd6 from ports so I can eliminate all of the X
libraries getting installed. ESXi should come with a freebsd.iso file
that you can use for the tools install (I'm not one of our ESX
administrators so I can't speak definitively but I did get an ISO from
them for the tools installation).

   


We've always used the open-vm-tools port 
(/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11).  There is both an x11 and 
nox11 version, both of which work very well.  It also includes a 
handful of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver.


If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl 
(memory ballon driver), then you can build with -DWITHOUT_DNET 
-DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE to eliminate a few more dependencies.


Steve

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Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack kor...@comcast.net wrote:

 We've always used the open-vm-tools port
 (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11).  There is both an x11 and
 nox11 version, both of which work very well.  It also includes a handful
 of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver.

 If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl
 (memory ballon driver), then you can build with -DWITHOUT_DNET
 -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE to eliminate a few more dependencies.

Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on
one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!!

kmw

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Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread kalin m


awesome...  thanks to all replies...  i'll try the nox11 also..  those 
machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary...   
thanks...




Kevin Wilcox wrote:

On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack kor...@comcast.net wrote:

  

We've always used the open-vm-tools port
(/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11).  There is both an x11 and
nox11 version, both of which work very well.  It also includes a handful
of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver.

If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl
(memory ballon driver), then you can build with -DWITHOUT_DNET
-DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE to eliminate a few more dependencies.



Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on
one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!!

kmw

  

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Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread kalin m



so installed the open-vmware-tools-nox11 package...  the vsphere ( the 
client interface) detects it but it says VMWare Tools: Unmanaged. any 
idea what that means?


i did try to install from source off the sourceforge site without x and 
some other stuff but it's broken.


thanks...



kalin m wrote:


awesome...  thanks to all replies...  i'll try the nox11 also..  those 
machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary...   
thanks...




Kevin Wilcox wrote:

On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack kor...@comcast.net wrote:

 

We've always used the open-vm-tools port
(/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11).  There is both an x11 and
nox11 version, both of which work very well.  It also includes a 
handful

of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver.

If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl
(memory ballon driver), then you can build with -DWITHOUT_DNET
-DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE to eliminate a few more dependencies.



Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on
one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!!

kmw

  

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Re: vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-28 Thread kalin m



for the record - if anybody's interested...

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/249774;jsessionid=79E1617AEC857E6B51C29539AD294AC9?tstart=0


kalin m wrote:



so installed the open-vmware-tools-nox11 package...  the vsphere ( the 
client interface) detects it but it says VMWare Tools: Unmanaged. any 
idea what that means?


i did try to install from source off the sourceforge site without x 
and some other stuff but it's broken.


thanks...



kalin m wrote:


awesome...  thanks to all replies...  i'll try the nox11 also..  
those machines are only intended as servers so guis are not 
necessary...   thanks...




Kevin Wilcox wrote:

On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack kor...@comcast.net wrote:

 

We've always used the open-vm-tools port
(/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11).  There is both an x11 and
nox11 version, both of which work very well.  It also includes a 
handful

of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver.

If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl
(memory ballon driver), then you can build with -DWITHOUT_DNET
-DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE to eliminate a few more dependencies.



Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on
one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!!

kmw

  

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vmware and freebsd 8

2010-07-27 Thread kalin m


hi all...

messing around with vmware and fbsd 8...

has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it?
i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty nice 
interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently doesn't 
know much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest.


so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests 
to go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. 
tried six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is 
that open one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing?


also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that plays 
nice and with fbsd?


thanks...
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