Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 07/09/2011 00:13, Fbsd8 wrote:
 Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group.
 I su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get
 returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command
 embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man
 page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get
 su to work.

With su(1), you need to give the root password to get rootly powers.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-07 Thread Richard Collyer

On 07/09/2011 01:19, Fbsd8 wrote:

Thank you Beech.
I was entering the password of the user.
When I entered root's password the script containing mkdir worked.

One remaining question. Is there any time limit on having root access?
I mean will root access remain until the user exits?

Thanks again



No, once a users SSH session times out/is closed the root provledges are 
lost and you have to SU again. If they remain logged in they keep root 
privlidges (sp!) until they log out.


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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-07 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 06 September 2011 16:19:51 Fbsd8 wrote:
 Beech Rintoul wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 September 2011 15:13:48 Fbsd8 wrote:
  Matthew Seaman wrote:
  On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:
  I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries
  to issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.
  
  How do I fix this?
  
  Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
  new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
  user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
  to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
  the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)
  
Cheers,

Matthew
  
  Matthew
  
 Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group. I
  
  su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get
  returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command
  embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man
  page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get
  su to work.
  
  user# su
  Pass: root password
  root#
  
  Beech
 
 Thank you Beech.
 I was entering the password of the user.
 When I entered root's password the script containing mkdir worked.
 
 One remaining question. Is there any time limit on having root access?
 I mean will root access remain until the user exits?

Yes, the shell will remain root until you either logout (it will go back to 
user) or close the shell.

Beech


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wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Fbsd8
I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to 
issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.


How do I fix this?
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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:
 I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to
 issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.
 
 How do I fix this?

Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:49:32 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Either that, or teach your
 user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
 to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
 the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)

Just an addition: In regards of what sudo does, see super
(it's in the ports, same category as sudo). It allows a fine
control over _what_ commands can be executed.



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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue Sep  6 11:07:48 2011
 Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:49:04 -0400
 From: Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com
 To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: 
 Subject: wheel group  mkdir

 I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to 
 issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.

 How do I fix this?

First, figure out _why_ the user is getting that error. grin

exactly -what- executable named 'mkdir' are they trying to run?
  'which mkdir'
What are the permissions on that file
*WHERE* are they trying to create the file, and what are the permissions
on -that- directory?

Note: Including the _exact_ error message is a GOOD IDEA(tm).

There is a *SIGNIFICANT* difference between:
   $ mkdir foo
   mkdir: permission denied
and
   $ mkdir foo
   mkdir: foo: permission denied
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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Fbsd8

Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:

I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to
issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.

How do I fix this?


Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)

Cheers,

Matthew



Matthew
	Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group. I 
su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get 
returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command 
embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man 
page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get 
su to work.


Thanks




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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Jon Radel

On 9/6/11 7:13 PM, Fbsd8 wrote:


Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group. I su
and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get returned
to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command embedded
still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man page to
no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get su to work.


Since you're the one having the issue you wish to have resolved, you 
might want to take it upon yourself to tell us *exactly* what you're 
typing, what the results are, and what you'd prefer to have happen 
instead.  We can guess what you're doing when you say I su and get 
prompted for the user id's password after which I get returned to the 
command line, but given the root problem is that you don't fully 
understand the su command, it's hard to be certain what you mean by that.


Going out on a limb, however, I'll point out that, when you're logged in 
as fred


su - fred

doesn't do much for you as you remain fred, whereas, what was meant in 
the suggestion to you was something more along the lines of


su -

which, if you enter root's password, leaves you as root.  (Or gives you 
a shell with root's privileges to be a bit more precise.)


But, again, I'd suggest that this would go faster if you provide what 
you're doing and what the results are rather than what you think you're 
doing and what you think the results mean.


To recap: Cut and paste what's actually happening, not your summary of same.

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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Tuesday 06 September 2011 15:13:48 Fbsd8 wrote:
 Matthew Seaman wrote:
  On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:
  I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to
  issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.
  
  How do I fix this?
  
  Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
  new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
  user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
  to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
  the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)
  
  Cheers,
  
  Matthew
 
 Matthew
   Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group. I
 su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get
 returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command
 embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man
 page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get
 su to work.

user# su
Pass: root password
root#

Beech

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Re: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Fbsd8

Beech Rintoul wrote:

On Tuesday 06 September 2011 15:13:48 Fbsd8 wrote:

Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:

I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to
issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.

How do I fix this?

Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)

Cheers,

Matthew

Matthew
Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group. I
su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get
returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command
embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man
page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get
su to work.


user# su
Pass: root password
root#

Beech



Thank you Beech.
I was entering the password of the user.
When I entered root's password the script containing mkdir worked.

One remaining question. Is there any time limit on having root access?
I mean will root access remain until the user exits?

Thanks again




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SV: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Hasse Hansson

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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Fbsd8
Sendt: den 7 september 2011 01:14
Til: Matthew Seaman
Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Emne: Re: wheel group  mkdir

Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:
 I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to
 issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.

 How do I fix this?
 
 Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
 new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
 user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
 to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
 the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 

Matthew
Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group.
I 
su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get 
returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command 
embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man 
page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get 
su to work.

Thanks

Hello.

If I've got the correct impression of it, to be in the wheel group, able you
to su to root, meaning get root privilieges.
BUT you have to know and use the root password.
If you have installed the sudo port, which is very easy to config, just by
removing some hash # marks some common privilieges of the wheel group, to
obtain almost root power configurable by you. And also configuarable is,
if you like the group to use their own passwords or none, just belonging to
the wheel group, when issuing the sudo command.
According to my humble understanding, just belonging to the wheel group
without further configuration, don't get you much more. 

/Hasse


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Re: SV: wheel group mkdir

2011-09-06 Thread Fbsd8

Hasse Hansson wrote:

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Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Fbsd8
Sendt: den 7 september 2011 01:14
Til: Matthew Seaman
Cc: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Emne: Re: wheel group  mkdir

Matthew Seaman wrote:

On 06/09/2011 16:49, Fbsd8 wrote:

I have a user that belongs to the wheel group but when the user tries to
issue mkdir command it gets a permission denied error.

How do I fix this?

Make the directory that contains where your user is trying to create a
new subdirectory writable by group wheel.  Either that, or teach your
user to use su(1) or sudo(1) so they can mkdir as root.  (Adding users
to group wheel so they are permitted to run su(1) is a BSD-ism, and is
the usual reason for adding anyone to wheel.)

Cheers,

Matthew



Matthew
Thanks for your reply. I have a user id that is in the wheel group.
I 
su and get prompted for the user id's password after which I get 
returned to the command line. Running the script with the mkdir command 
embedded still returns Permission Denied message. I have read the su man 
page to no joy. Could you please explain the sequence of events to get 
su to work.


Thanks

Hello.

If I've got the correct impression of it, to be in the wheel group, able you
to su to root, meaning get root privilieges.
BUT you have to know and use the root password.
If you have installed the sudo port, which is very easy to config, just by
removing some hash # marks some common privilieges of the wheel group, to
obtain almost root power configurable by you. And also configuarable is,
if you like the group to use their own passwords or none, just belonging to
the wheel group, when issuing the sudo command.
According to my humble understanding, just belonging to the wheel group
without further configuration, don't get you much more. 


/Hasse



Thank you Hasse

You gave me the solution. I was entering the password of the user and 
should have been entering the root password.

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