Re: where are the handbooks?

2010-12-19 Thread RW
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 21:11:21 -0800
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:


 Thanks.  It would never have occurred to me to look for documentation
 of the _base_ system in a _port_.  The porter's handbook, maybe, but
 the others?  Seems to me like a POLA violation.

The documentation isn't really a part of the base system, it isn't
branched, it's continuously updated, it's similar to the ports tree.

Older install disks had a snapshot. Having a port/package that installs
the snapshot makes it a lot easier to keep up to date. You used to
have to use csup to fetch the source files and then build the html,
pdf, etc which used a lot of CPU. I gave up on it and synced the html
version from the website - a port is better.
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where are the handbooks?

2010-12-18 Thread perryh
Which of the 8.1-RELEASE distribution sets contains the handbook,
developer's handbook, porter's handbook, etc?  I thought I had
searched everywhere, but must have missed something.
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Re: where are the handbooks?

2010-12-18 Thread RW
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:09:16 -0800
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

 Which of the 8.1-RELEASE distribution sets contains the handbook,
 developer's handbook, porter's handbook, etc?  I thought I had
 searched everywhere, but must have missed something.

Those distributions were a mystery to me the first time I installed
FreeBSD and they still are. I've never understood why anyone would want
to lump together significant ports installation with minor base-system
penny-pinching in such an opaque way. 

In recent versions of sysinstall the documentation is packaged, so IIWY
I'd just install the appropriate port or package.

$ ls -d /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-*
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-all   /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-ja
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-bn/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-mn
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-da/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-nl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-de/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-pl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-el/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-pt
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-ru
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-es/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-sr
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-fr/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-tr
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-hu/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-zh_cn
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-it/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-zh_tw

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Re: where are the handbooks?

2010-12-18 Thread perryh
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:09:16 -0800
 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  Which of the 8.1-RELEASE distribution sets contains the handbook,
  developer's handbook, porter's handbook, etc?
 Those distributions were a mystery to me the first time I installed
 FreeBSD and they still are. I've never understood why anyone would
 want to lump together significant ports installation with minor
 base-system penny-pinching in such an opaque way. 
 ... the documentation is packaged ...
 $ ls -d /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-*
 /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-all   /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-ja
 ...

Thanks.  It would never have occurred to me to look for documentation
of the _base_ system in a _port_.  The porter's handbook, maybe, but
the others?  Seems to me like a POLA violation.

Anyway, problem solved after fetching the package.
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