zfs raid and/or hardware raid..

2009-02-11 Thread B. Cook
I have a dimension 9150 that I am going to put amd64 freebsd on to play 
with.


It has Intel ICH7 SATA300 on it, in the bios it says it can do raid.

I'm assuming that would be a hardware raid..

Would I be better off just using two disks and mirror them in software 
raid (zpool) or using the Intel hardware-ish raid and then zfs the raid?


box has 2G of ram, and a pair of 250G sata 300 drives.

clues appreciated.
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Re: zfs raid and/or hardware raid..

2009-02-11 Thread Matias Surdi
If your are just going to play with it, the play as much as you want 
with ZFS.


But, if you are going to setup something that will have to go on 
production some day, at least at this moment i wouldn't recommend you ZFS.


I've used it for a backup server, and due to power failures in the 
building, all the times the energy went out the pool got corrupted, the 
las one was completely unrecoverable.I ended up using gconcat/gstripe 
and so on, and despite a couple more power failures, just once I've had 
to run fsck.Everything works (and feels) much more solid now.


Just my opinion.


B. Cook wrote:
I have a dimension 9150 that I am going to put amd64 freebsd on to play 
with.


It has Intel ICH7 SATA300 on it, in the bios it says it can do raid.

I'm assuming that would be a hardware raid..

Would I be better off just using two disks and mirror them in software 
raid (zpool) or using the Intel hardware-ish raid and then zfs the raid?


box has 2G of ram, and a pair of 250G sata 300 drives.

clues appreciated.
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Re: zfs raid and/or hardware raid..

2009-02-11 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:58:04PM -0500, B. Cook wrote:
 I have a dimension 9150 that I am going to put amd64 freebsd on to play 
 with.
 
 It has Intel ICH7 SATA300 on it, in the bios it says it can do raid.
 
 I'm assuming that would be a hardware raid..

You are assuming wrong.  It is software RAID, just like almost all on-board
RAID implementations (and most of the cheaper add-on RAID cards.)  RAID that
is supported in the BIOS have one advantage over other software
implementations, and that is that you can boot from all supported RAID
configurations, which is not always the case otherwise.


 
 Would I be better off just using two disks and mirror them in software 
 raid (zpool) or using the Intel hardware-ish raid and then zfs the raid?
 
 box has 2G of ram, and a pair of 250G sata 300 drives.
 
 clues appreciated.

ZFS still feels a little bit too experimental for my own tastes (although
opinions differ on that matter), but apart from that ZFS is probably the
best solution.




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Re: zfs raid and/or hardware raid..

2009-02-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar

RAID implementations (and most of the cheaper add-on RAID cards.)  RAID that
is supported in the BIOS have one advantage over other software
implementations, and that is that you can boot from all supported RAID
configurations, which is not always the case otherwise.


always - if you use software RAID (gmirror) properly.

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Re: zfs raid and/or hardware raid..

2009-02-11 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:18:42PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  RAID implementations (and most of the cheaper add-on RAID cards.)  RAID that
  is supported in the BIOS have one advantage over other software
  implementations, and that is that you can boot from all supported RAID
  configurations, which is not always the case otherwise.
 
 always - if you use software RAID (gmirror) properly.

gmirror handles only RAID-1 if I am not mistaken.
That is the exception where you can boot from a RAID array even the BIOS
does not know about it. (But I would worry about what would happen if you
were trying to boot from a degraded RAID-1 array.  What happens if the BIOS
tries to boot the wrong disk?)

For a RAID-0, RAID-5, or RAID-10 array on the other hand, I think it is not
possible to boot from them unless you have a BIOS which understands the
array format.



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