Re: fxp problems with latest stable Re: panics after upgrading to -STABLE Aug 9, 2002 (still something up)

2002-08-11 Thread Administrator IPA

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Mike Tancsa wrote:

Dear Mike.

I reported a similar problem on August the 9th and I must say, sorry,
if I would have offered the dmesg output all should have seen that we
use only Intel NICs around here!

Another workstation with a 3Com NIC does not show this strange behaviour.


 I did some more tests with the new driver with 2 machines on a totally
 different segment and the same sorts of packet loss on simple pings.  If I
 revert to the previous version, no packet loss at all.

 $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c,v 1.110.2.24 2002/08/09 02:04:20 luigi Exp $
 vs
 $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c,v 1.110.2.23 2002/07/29 02:50:59 luigi Exp $

 I confirmed this on 2 separate machines.


 The fxp nics in question are

 fxp0: Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet port 0xa800-0xa81f mem
 0xf900-0xf90f,0xfd00-0xfd000fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0
 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:89:d5:ba
 inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus0
 inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto

 and

 fxp0: Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet port 0xa000-0xa03f mem
 0xe950-0xe95f,0xe960-0xe9600fff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci2
 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:db:69:6a
 inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus0
 inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto

 Both nics on both machines in question do have shard IRQs, but like I said,
 with the previous version of the driver it works fine. If I can provide any
 more information, please let me know. I do have a serial console on one
 machine and will have physical access to it once again on Monday.

  ---Mike


 At 08:53 PM 8/10/2002 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:

 Actually, I am still seeing a lot of strange things.   The patch certainly
 fixed the panics, but now I am seeing packet loss on links off the same subnet.
 
 e.g.
 32 packets transmitted, 23 packets received, 28% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.333/0.348/0.389/0.015 ms
 
 If I reboot with an old kernel its fine.
 
 Even stranger. If I do a dump from a machine a few hops away, I get my
 normal throughput.
 
 netstat -ni does not show any problems, nor do the switch counters show
 any issues.  These are with fxp cards. Could it be the latest fxp commit ?
 
  ---Mike
 
 
 
 At 07:45 AM 8/10/2002 -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
   Could someone put the word out when this issue is fixed? This problem
   just hosed my web server after I forgot the prime directive: test on a
   non-critical machine.
 
 it was fixed
 
 randy
 
 
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Re: fxp problems with latest stable Re: panics after upgrading to -STABLE Aug 9, 2002 (still something up)

2002-08-11 Thread cj_

I have a machine that has two different interfaces (xl for the external
and fxp for the LAN).  After rebuilding the kernel after 8/9/02, I
experienced kernel panic -- but only as as result of passing data
through the fxp interface.  It stayed stable until I ssh'ed into the
router, which caused almost immediate panic.  No connections (that were
automatically opened by startup scripts) to the outside world via xl
caused this problem.  

This is consistent with the idea that the fxp
driver is borked somehow.  The revision date in the CVS tag seems to
support this.

 * $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c,v 1.110.2.24 2002/08/09 02:04:20 luigi Exp $

Just my observerations, it may be incorrect.  I haven't tested the
patch referenced, I'm wary of more downtime.


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Original message from Mike Tancsa:

 
 Yes, I do not get those reproducible panics either.  However, I think this 
 fxp problem I am seeing now is something different.
 
 ---Mike
 
 At 07:36 PM 8/10/2002 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote:
 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:42:25 -0700
 From: cj_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Can someone confirm when the -STABLE kernel is usable?  I lack a
 throwaway  machine to test this out on.
 
 I was able to get a dead-on reproducible panic, even with sources
 CVSupped as of 0347 hrs. PST (GMT-7) today.  After hand-applying the
 patch in
 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2013026+0+current/cvs-all
 (which refers to PR kern/41492), I no longer get that (or any other, so
 far) panic.
 
 Cheers,
 david   (links to my resume at http://www.catwhisker.org/~david)
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BASH using up major CPU while idle. Could it be caused by portupgrade?

2002-08-11 Thread lewwid

Frequently I have had to 
kill -INT 1 to reboot because nothing on the box would respond.

I used portupgrade bash and ever since I've been getting
fork: Resource temporarily unavailable for every command.

Maybe I'll put root's shell to tcsh and then uninstall bash, 
and install it by going cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2  make install clean

Hopefully that will stop these errors.

Thanks guys.





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Re: BASH using up major CPU while idle. Could it be caused byportupgrade?

2002-08-11 Thread Charles Sprickman

Just out of curiousity, what does the following return?

sysctl kern.maxusers

Charles

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On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, lewwid wrote:

 Frequently I have had to
 kill -INT 1 to reboot because nothing on the box would respond.

 I used portupgrade bash and ever since I've been getting
 fork: Resource temporarily unavailable for every command.

 Maybe I'll put root's shell to tcsh and then uninstall bash,
 and install it by going cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2  make install clean

 Hopefully that will stop these errors.

 Thanks guys.





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RE: Boot failed - all data lost - SOLVED

2002-08-11 Thread Björn Patrick Swift

Hi, and thanks for all the replies (on and off the list).

I got the machine back from my Dell vendor last Friday with the explanation that it's 
BIOS (Dell A02) was broken. Under some operating systems, disabling the USB controller 
could interfere with the OS's boot process. Now, they weren't familiar with this 
FreeSDF system but they thought that might be it. Just to be sure they decided to 
format the disks, install Windows 200 Server and see if they could get the machine to 
boot. It booted. This may be the best way to troubleshoot hardware, but I beg to 
differ.

Once back in my office I downgraded to A02 and installed FreeBSD. I tried disabling 
the USB controller in the BIOS with the same results as before. Boot failed and no 
sign of any data. Doing the same procedure with A03 has no affect and therefor I have 
written this off as a Dell BIOS thing.

Of course, since Dell does not officially support other OSes than Windows or Redhat 
linux - running FreeBSD was at my own risk and I will have to pay for the times spent 
on fixing the machine.

Thanks again for your replies,
Bjorn Swift

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: Boot failed - all data lost
 
 
 Is this a SCSI disk?
 
 I had this same problem last night, it turned out to be a bad 
 SCSI cable. 
 The disks were found on boot and the SCSI bios could see them 
 on the chain 
 but when it tried to boot it kept saying no disk found.  I 
 booted a DOS 
 disk with fdisk and it also couldn't see the disk.  I almost 
 trashed the 
 drive. On a whim I replaced the cable and it everything 
 worked.  It turns 
 out the scsi cable had a bad active terminator.  I replaced 
 the cable and 
 everything came back.
 
 If your system is scsi, it's something to try anyway.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
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 08/09/2002 12:35 PM
 Please respond to freebsd-stable
 
  
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 Subject:Re: Boot failed - all data lost
 
   On Aug 08 at 10:32, Björn Patrick Swift spoke:
 
  The first error I got was from the 'FreeBSD Boot Manager'. 
 It started as 
 normally and displayed 'F? FreeBSD', but as I struck 'enter' 
 I got a 'boot 
 failed' message. Then I rebooted the machine again and 
 started getting 'No 
 operating system found' messages. I thought that maybe the 
 boot record had 
 been damaged so I booted the FreeBSD 4.6-install CD and 
 opened fdisk - all 
 space unused, no partitions found. No sign of my data at all!
 
 Get your disk back from Dell.
 Then try testdisk or gpart.
 
 -Hanspeter
 
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boot process stuck at start_init: trying /sbin/init

2002-08-11 Thread parv

installed freebsd source is/are dated around the hours of aug 10, 11
2002.

well, everything was going great... until i ran MAKEDEV thru
mergemaster.  after running MAKEDEV, i saw errors flying by about
missing wheel  operator groups... to which i didn't pay much
attention (as i was thinking that's just silly! wheel group has to
be in /etc/{passwd,groups}.)

since then after rebooting, i/boot process cannot go past...

start_init: trying /sbin/init

...un/loading new/old kernel doesn't further the boot in any way.
various devices -- cd-rw, floppy, hard drives, etc. -- are
identified correctly.


if it helps, kernel configuration is...

http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/unix/cf/freebsd/KERNCONF


...and not-so-old (4.6-stable jun 26-27 2002) boot log...

http://www103.pair.com/parv/comp/unix/err/dmesg/delli5000e-dmesg


...what can i do now?

thanks in advance.


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proper.


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2002-08-11 Thread Yutaka Iwata

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Re: SMP kernel: FreeBSD vs. Linux 2.4.x

2002-08-11 Thread David Schultz

Thus spake David Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 That's what I heard, although I still don't know how the
 approaches are different.  I read the Anderson paper, but I can't
 seem to find any documentation about the FreeBSD approach.  (Given
 the signal delivery problems we're currently having, I'd guess
 that Julian et al. are going through the same hell that the
 Solaris developers did when implementing threading.)  Could you
 please ellaborate on the differences in the FreeBSD approach?

To answer on my own question based on information Julian posted to
-current today:

http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/freebsd_kse.tgz

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