Re: Cursor (trackpoint) creep with moused?

2002-08-30 Thread Raymond Wiker

Barney Wolff writes:
  On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 04:52:42PM -0400, Andy Sparrow wrote:
   
   I'm just curious as to why this might be - the trackpoint creep, that 
   is - does anyone have any ideas? :-)
  
  I've experienced the same effect on a Toshiba laptop running W2k, so
  perhaps it's the device, not anything fbsd-specific.

Some of my colleagues have seen this on their Dell notebooks
running W2K  Win XP. One of them has had the entire keyboard assembly
replaced, twice, because of this problem. S, I would say it's
likely to be a hardware problem.

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Problems with FreeBSD - causing zalloc to return 0 ?!

2002-08-30 Thread Arnvid Karstad

Hiya all,

We've been troubled by Fatal trap 12's for a little
while now. The machine was running 4.6 perfectly, until
I decided to try a cvs up to RELENG_4_6 about a week ago.
Then it started to crash alot, we went back to RELENG_4.
And there were no problems there. But then we decided to
send in an error report http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42046
and went back to RELENG_4_6 After going through alot
of testing, kernel testing, and other funny things we
decided to end the testing and go back to RELENG_4...
Voila... The problems where now resident in that CVS Tag
also. We have found a working workaround by adding the
following to the kernel config:

options INVARIANTS
options INVARIANT_SUPPORT

running the kernel with GENERIC instead of our custom
kernel makes the system panic alot faster. It would seem
that zalloc return's 0 when it shouldn't be able to do
that. 

There are more incidents like this at several other
machines that were upgraded at the same time.

Anyone know of a better workaround than using INVARIANTS?

Mvh/Best regards,

Arnvid L. Karstad



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/etc/fstab - uid=?

2002-08-30 Thread Mario Pranjic

Hi!

I apologize for this rather stupid question, but mount on FreeBSD is a bit
different comparing to mount on Linux.

I need to mount one filesystem with the ownership of some UID other than
root.

On Linux I could put uid=xx, gid=yy in /etc/fstab after 'rw' option, but
FreeBSD doesn't seem to have that option.

Can someone give me a hint how it's done under FreeBSD.

Mario Pranjic, dipl.ing.
sistem administrator
Knjiznica, Institut Rudjer Boskovic
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Re: Updating world with least downtime

2002-08-30 Thread David Schultz

Thus spake Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 For a modern system and a reasonable disk, this is trivial. I have a
 system which MUST not be down for over 15 minutes and I can do it
 quite easily unless I really fumble something in mergemaster. I do
 always merge a few files later and tend to install most changes very
 quickly, having ode the same upgrade on a non-critical system just
 before I do the critical one so I know what to expect.
 
 The actual installworld time on my 1GHZ system is about 5 minutes
 (5:34 last time).

Nice record.  There ought to be a better solution than ``run
mergemaster really fast and hope nothing goes wrong,'' though.
For example, you could use mergemaster with -D on a copy of /etc
and commit the copy in single user mode.

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Re: Cursor (trackpoint) creep with moused?

2002-08-30 Thread Andy Sparrow


 Toshiba trackpoints will ocasionally recalibrate themselves, which
 manifests as about 5 seconds of creep - longer if you try and fight it :).

Exactly - this in fact, was what I was doing, which I've only realised 
since I understood the underlying mechanism.

As soon as I noticed the creep, I'd both become acutely aware of it, and 
try to compensate for it - which made it persist. When I first saw this, 
I thought that the trackpoint hadn't correctly returned to a neutral 
position, so I'd try to provide input and hope that it would, in fact, 
center itself (and at least I'd keep the mouse near where I wanted it to 
be).

I seem to have never lost this habit - which is, of course, precisely 
what you /shouldn't/ do, if the hardware is to compensate for some bias.

Now, in fact, I'm having fun with it. I can provoke it at will by gently 
applying pressure in a single direction. After a few seconds, it 
notices that there's an inbuilt bias, and the creep will stop - at 
which point, releasing the pressure gives a creep in the opposite 
direction, which similarly lasts for a few seconds before it corrects 
again.

 At least on toshiba my porteget 300CT and 320CT laptops lthis is so, and I
 hear from many other toshiba users that this is 'normal'.
 
 As for minutes of creep (the original poster mentioned it fixing itself
 after 45 seconds...)

Heh. This would appear to be some kind of time dilation effect due to 
irritation. It certainly doesn't take that long now...

Thanks all!

AS





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Periodic: support for non-sendmail MTAs

2002-08-30 Thread francisv

Hi,

I noticed that /etc/periodic/daily/500.queuerun uses a sendmail-specific
command line -Ac. Some installations use Postfix and it does not
understand this command line.

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Re: Periodic: support for non-sendmail MTAs

2002-08-30 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro

francisv I noticed that /etc/periodic/daily/500.queuerun uses a
francisv sendmail-specific command line -Ac. Some installations use
francisv Postfix and it does not understand this command line.

Set:

daily_submit_queuerun=NO

in /etc/periodic.conf.

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Re: Periodic: support for non-sendmail MTAs

2002-08-30 Thread Makoto Matsushita


francisv Some installations use Postfix and it does not understand
francisv this command line.

I don't think MTAs except sendmail use this script.

Instead, create your own periodic scripts under /usr/local/etc/periodic
or some other places.  It would be better ports/mail/postfix does that,
but it's just a ports issue.

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Re: OpenOffice problems on 4.6.2

2002-08-30 Thread Daniel O'Connor

On Sat, 2002-08-31 at 02:34, Jerry A! wrote:
 :  $ ./soffice
 :  ELF interpreter /compat/svr4/lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found
 :  Abort trap
 :  ELF interpreter /compat/svr4/lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found
 :  [1]   1256 Abort trap ./soffice 
 :  $

Uhh, SVR4?!
Looks like brandelf is needed to mark the binaries as the right type.

I haven't had any problems building OO 1.0.1_3. Remember you need a
valid DISPLAY variable set to install though.

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Re: Periodic: support for non-sendmail MTAs

2002-08-30 Thread parv

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Gregory Neil Shapiro thusly...

 Set:
 
 daily_submit_queuerun=NO
 
 in /etc/periodic.conf.

ah, i was wondering about that that setting it in /etc/rc.conf
doesn't do much.  thanks.

  - parv

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Latest kernel panic, second server ...

2002-08-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: mp_lock = 0002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: fault virtual address  = 0xdf9c
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not 
present
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: instruction pointer= 0x8:0xc01e6bab
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: stack pointer  = 0x10:0xf9b3ed7c
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: frame pointer  = 0x10:0xf9b3ed84
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0xf, 
type 0x1b
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: processor eflags   = interrupt enabled, resume, 
IOPL = 0
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: current process= 71960 (gzcat)
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: interrupt mask = none - SMP: XXX
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: trap number= 12
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: panic: page fault
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: mp_lock = 0002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: boot() called on cpu#0
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel:
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: syncing disks... 159 8 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 
3 3 3 3 3
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: giving up on 3 buffers
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: Uptime: 2d10h19m18s
Aug 30 23:39:41 jupiter /kernel: amr0: flushing cache...done


jupiter# nm -n /kernel | grep c01e6bab
jupiter# nm -n /kernel | grep c01e6ba
jupiter# nm -n /kernel | grep c01e6b
c01e6b24 t vm_map_entry_create
c01e6b68 T vm_map_lookup_entry
c01e6bd4 T vm_map_insert





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Re: Problems with FreeBSD - causing zalloc to return 0 ?!

2002-08-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier


Okay, I've setup this script on both my (un)STABLE servers, and will
report after the next crash ... which shouldn't take long :)

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote:


 :Is there any definite way of determining this?  From what I can find int
 :he man page, VNODES have to do with the file system and directory lists
 :... my last two crashes look to be related to the file system itself, so
 :have started to watch the VNODE numbers to, but is there some way of
 :determining what I should raise, and where?

 If you can get to a DDB prompt on the crash (kernel config w/ DDB)
 do this:

 ddb print *kernel_vm_end

 And tell me what you get.  Also note the fault address.

 In order to really track down the cause I need a vmcore and kernel.debug
 to play with, but baring that you might be able to dump memory
 statistics to a file like once a second until the machine crashes.

 while (1)
   sleep 1
   date  stats.log
   vmstat -m  stats.log
   vmstat -z  stats.log
   netstat -m  stats.log
   fsync stats.log
 end

 :I'm running 4Gig of RAM and Dual CPU over here, so having a swap device
 :large enough to 'dump core' is kinda out of the question, so I can't
 :provide any more infomration that i have so far in other messages :(

 If you can reproduce the crash with less memory you may be able to
 generate a core.  To boot the machine with less memory add a line
 to your /boot/loader.conf file:

 hw.physmem=768m

 I usually always keep such a line in my loader.conf file, commented
 out (e.g. #hw.physmem=...) until I need it, because I always forget
 the name of the variable :-)

 :And, also, should any 'server class' operating system be more graceful
 :about such things?  Some sort of soft limit that triggers it to refuse new
 :processes or something when its hit, so that it doesn't actually crash?
 :Kinda like the NMBCLUSTERS warning/error message when its set too low?

 FreeBSD-current will be far more graceful, but FreeBSD-stable is still
 using algorithms based on circa 1990 system memory capacities.  As
 memory capacities have grown larger then available KVM the algorithms
 have been less able to cope with the massive number of resources
 that can now be cached.

   -Matt




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