RE: wi0 and mtu setting
I believe I read somewhere that 802.11b standard supports larger MTUs than 1500. I know basic ethernet MTU is 1500 but even my crappy old Nortel 8603 routing switch supports up to MTU 1960 Any corrections appreciated // Sten -Original Message- From: David Magda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 2. januar 2003 21:59 To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wi0 and mtu setting Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 even though I know the card supports it? Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500. Will this be changed in a new version of the driver? Not unless they change the standard. I believe 1Gbit Ethernet is slightly different but would have to look up specifics. -- David Magda dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk
On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing), I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now, but I think it starts rotting away according the following: Download the dft utility from IBM. http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if it is less than 3 years old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: wi0 and mtu setting
David Magda wrote: Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 even though I know the card supports it? Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500. That makes no sense to me. 802.11 is not ethernet. And since it's mandatory to use IPSec, SKIP or some other encapsulating security protocol for wireless (THANKS! IEEE!), these all reduce the advertised MTU size to upper layers to avoid frags. It would be nice if this reduced mtu size were 1500. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
vnconfig and /dev/vn devices?
I've been messing around with the honeynet forensic challenges, and have finally managed to mount my first image after recompiling with EXT2FS and vn in my kernel configuration. However, right now I just have the one /dev/vn0. Is there any way to get other vn devices such as vn0 vn1 etc so that I can mount multiple filesystems at a time? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: vnconfig and /dev/vn devices?
On 2003.01.02 15:51:12 +, Eric Timme wrote: Is there any way to get other vn devices such as vn0 vn1 etc so that I can mount multiple filesystems at a time? cd /dev sh MAKEDEV vn1 vn2 should do the trick. -- Simon L. Nielsen msg52790/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Dave Uhring wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing), I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now, but I think it starts rotting away according the following: Download the dft utility from IBM. http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if it is less than 3 years old. Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the bad sectors without any major problems. Really good. Thanks a lot for that! -- Andreas ant Ntaflos | A cynic is a man who knows the price of [EMAIL PROTECTED] | everything, and the value of nothing. Vienna, AUSTRIA | Oscar Wilde To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk
On Thursday 02 January 2003 05:37 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the bad sectors without any major problems. Really good. Thanks a lot for that! The drive will probably fail shortly. Keep your data backed up. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk
Andreas Ntaflos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Dave Uhring wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing), I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now, but I think it starts rotting away according the following: Download the dft utility from IBM. http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if it is less than 3 years old. Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the bad sectors without any major problems. Really good. Nope. It hid the problems at the expense of spare sectors. Backup your data and have the drive replaced. See the pertinent DTLA FAQs on the web. These drives need special treatment. -- Matthias Andree To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:37:14AM +0100, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Dave Uhring wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing), I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now, but I think it starts rotting away according the following: Download the dft utility from IBM. http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if it is less than 3 years old. Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the bad sectors without any major problems. Really good. Thanks a lot for that! I wouldn't trust that disk too far anymore, whatever DFT says. I had an IBM drive (might even have been the same model) fail in much the same way... DFT brought it back to life, but it just died again a few weeks later, and that time there was no saving it. Now they go back to IBM as soon as they start complaining. Thank goodness for three year warrenties! If nothing else, make sure your backups are working :-) Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: wi0 and mtu setting
But if you are using PPPoE then you should set the mtu of the pppoe connections to 1492 because of the 8 bytes overhead of the PPPoE (if you are not using encryption or compression) So if a server sends a packets which are 1500bytes and plus 8bytes PPPoE then it is 1508 bytes. So the sending interface should be able to set the ethernet MTU to 1508 which is possible to use at least in prism cards until 1600 bytes (I didnt test this in orinoco/lucent) not with freebsd of course with mikrotik routeros I think this option should be provided to user even though it breaks the standarts to be used at own risk to set MTU higher than 1500. Maybe it is not physically possible to set MTU higher than 1500 in normal ethernet but this limitation obviously doesnt apply to wireless interfaces and gigabit ethernet cards. Evren On 2 Jan 2003, David Magda wrote: Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 even though I know the card supports it? Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500. Will this be changed in a new version of the driver? Not unless they change the standard. I believe 1Gbit Ethernet is slightly different but would have to look up specifics. -- David Magda dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
RE: wi0 and mtu setting
It could be really helpful if you could find that standard papers :) I couldnt find anything from google. But I know normally ethernet interfaces just are not capable of sending packets larger than 1500 physically but only gigabit and wireless ethernets support this for some reason. Perhaps there should be a standart for this otherwise the producers wouldnt go into the trouble to support this huh? =) On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote: I believe I read somewhere that 802.11b standard supports larger MTUs than 1500. I know basic ethernet MTU is 1500 but even my crappy old Nortel 8603 routing switch supports up to MTU 1960 Any corrections appreciated // Sten -Original Message- From: David Magda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 2. januar 2003 21:59 To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wi0 and mtu setting Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 even though I know the card supports it? Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500. Will this be changed in a new version of the driver? Not unless they change the standard. I believe 1Gbit Ethernet is slightly different but would have to look up specifics. -- David Magda dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: wi0 and mtu setting
I definetely agree and obviously since mikrotikos supports this then linux should do since mikrotikos is built on linux. Why shouldnt FreeBSD support setting mtu of wireless interfaces higher than 1500 On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Michael Sierchio wrote: David Magda wrote: Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 even though I know the card supports it? Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500. That makes no sense to me. 802.11 is not ethernet. And since it's mandatory to use IPSec, SKIP or some other encapsulating security protocol for wireless (THANKS! IEEE!), these all reduce the advertised MTU size to upper layers to avoid frags. It would be nice if this reduced mtu size were 1500. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Adaptec 29320 with HostRAID support
Jakub Miziolek wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Scott Long wrote: Has anybody used HostRAID support in Adaptec 29320 and FreeBSD? I was trying to install 4.7-RELEASE, but it detected only controller - not RAID1 mirror. And of course it complains there are no disks in machine. DOS can see that array. Array is supported by controller BIOS - not any external win drivers/utility. The RAIDframe project in FreeBSD 5.0 was intended to support Adaptec HostRAID. Unfortunately, priorities have changed and that effort has stalled indefinitely. You are welcome to contact Adaptec through official channels and voice your concern. Just to make Adaptec aware there is such demand from users? Yes. Please. I can understand now I can only make software RAID emulation. True, the 'secret sauce' of HostRAID is that the BIOS understands RAID 0, 1, and 10, so you can boot off of it. For those that only need software RAID and those that keep their boot drive separate from their main arrays, this is a cool feature. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
RE: FreeBSD Stability
That is impressive. I'm curious if they stayed at a particular version or if they update as new versions are available? I thought I read somewhere that FreeBSD could load a new kernel without rebooting? I am interested in this, and I must admit that I dont really know that much about the kernel, but if anyone knows of a nice way to do this, PLEASE Let me know. This would be a great for those occational updates to freebsd-stable. I would get to keep my uptime. However, I dont think that this is possible. -Scott On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Marcus Reid wrote: I like to point people in the direction of: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html Thanks, I forgot where this site was. Its also of good use. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message