RE: wi0 and mtu setting

2003-01-02 Thread Sten Daniel Sørsdal

I believe I read somewhere that 802.11b standard supports larger MTUs than 1500.
I know basic ethernet MTU is 1500 but even my crappy old Nortel 8603 routing switch 
supports up to MTU 1960

Any corrections appreciated

// Sten

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From: David Magda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 2. januar 2003 21:59
To: Evren Yurtesen
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wi0 and mtu setting


Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 
 even though I know the card supports it?

Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit 
Ethernet is 1500.

 Will this be changed in a new version of the driver?

Not unless they change the standard. I believe 1Gbit Ethernet is slightly different 
but would have to look up specifics.

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conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well 
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

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Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk

2003-01-02 Thread Dave Uhring
On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
 Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing),

   I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me
 with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM
 DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now,
 but I think it starts rotting away according the following:

Download the dft utility from IBM.

  http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm

When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if 
it is less than 3 years old.


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Re: wi0 and mtu setting

2003-01-02 Thread Michael Sierchio
David Magda wrote:

Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500
even though I know the card supports it?



Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit
and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500.


That makes no sense to me.  802.11 is not ethernet.

And since it's mandatory to use IPSec, SKIP or some other encapsulating
security protocol for wireless (THANKS! IEEE!), these all reduce the
advertised MTU size to upper layers to avoid frags.  It would be nice
if this reduced mtu size were 1500.


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vnconfig and /dev/vn devices?

2003-01-02 Thread Eric Timme
I've been messing around with the honeynet forensic challenges, and have 
finally managed to mount my first image after recompiling with EXT2FS and vn 
in my kernel configuration.  However, right now I just have the one /dev/vn0.  
Is there any way to get other vn devices such as vn0 vn1 etc so that I can 
mount multiple filesystems at a time?

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Re: vnconfig and /dev/vn devices?

2003-01-02 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2003.01.02 15:51:12 +, Eric Timme wrote:

 Is there any way to get other vn devices such as vn0 vn1 etc so that I can 
 mount multiple filesystems at a time?
cd /dev  sh MAKEDEV vn1 vn2

should do the trick.

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Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk

2003-01-02 Thread Andreas Ntaflos
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Dave Uhring wrote:
 On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
  Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing),
 
I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me
  with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM
  DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now,
  but I think it starts rotting away according the following:
 
 Download the dft utility from IBM.
 
   http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm
 
 When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if 
 it is less than 3 years old.

Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the
bad sectors without any major problems. Really good.

Thanks a lot for that!
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Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk

2003-01-02 Thread Dave Uhring
On Thursday 02 January 2003 05:37 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:

 Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to
 repair the bad sectors without any major problems. Really good.

 Thanks a lot for that!

The drive will probably fail shortly. Keep your data backed up.


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Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk

2003-01-02 Thread Matthias Andree
Andreas Ntaflos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Dave Uhring wrote:
 On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
  Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing),
 
I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me
  with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM
  DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now,
  but I think it starts rotting away according the following:
 
 Download the dft utility from IBM.
 
   http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm
 
 When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if 
 it is less than 3 years old.

 Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the
 bad sectors without any major problems. Really good.

Nope. It hid the problems at the expense of spare sectors. Backup your
data and have the drive replaced. See the pertinent DTLA FAQs on the
web. These drives need special treatment.

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Re: Saving a partially rotten IBM DTLA-307030 Harddisk

2003-01-02 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:37:14AM +0100, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 03:11:56PM -0600, Dave Uhring wrote:
  On Thursday 02 January 2003 02:50 pm, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:
   Hello list (sorry for crossposting, hope I am doing the right thing),
  
 I've got the following problem which I hope someone could help me
   with: One of my boxes running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE has an IBM
   DTLA-307030 (30GB) which worked very well for more than 2 years now,
   but I think it starts rotting away according the following:
  
  Download the dft utility from IBM.
  
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm
  
  When you get the failure code e-mail IBM and get the drive replaced if 
  it is less than 3 years old.
 
 Wow, that worked like a charm, the Disk Fitness Test was able to repair the
 bad sectors without any major problems. Really good.
 
 Thanks a lot for that!

I wouldn't trust that disk too far anymore, whatever DFT says.  I had an
IBM drive (might even have been the same model) fail in much the same
way... DFT brought it back to life, but it just died again a few weeks
later, and that time there was no saving it.  Now they go back to IBM as
soon as they start complaining.  Thank goodness for three year warrenties!

If nothing else, make sure your backups are working :-)

Scott

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Re: wi0 and mtu setting

2003-01-02 Thread Evren Yurtesen
But if you are using PPPoE then you should set the mtu of the pppoe
connections to 1492 because of the 8 bytes overhead of the PPPoE (if you
are not using encryption or compression)

So if a server sends a packets which are 1500bytes and plus 8bytes PPPoE
then it is 1508 bytes. So the sending interface should be able to set the
ethernet MTU to 1508 which is possible to use at least in prism cards
until 1600 bytes (I didnt test this in orinoco/lucent) not with freebsd of
course with mikrotik routeros

I think this option should be provided to user even though it breaks the
standarts to be used at own risk to set MTU higher than 1500. Maybe it is
not physically possible to set MTU higher than 1500 in normal ethernet but
this limitation obviously doesnt apply to wireless interfaces and gigabit
ethernet cards. 

Evren



On 2 Jan 2003, David Magda wrote:

 Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500
  even though I know the card supports it?
 
 Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit
 and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500.
 
  Will this be changed in a new version of the driver?
 
 Not unless they change the standard. I believe 1Gbit Ethernet is
 slightly different but would have to look up specifics.
 
 -- 
 David Magda dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca
 Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
 the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well 
 under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI
 


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RE: wi0 and mtu setting

2003-01-02 Thread Evren Yurtesen
It could be really helpful if you could find that standard papers :)
I couldnt find anything from google. But I know normally ethernet
interfaces just are not capable of sending packets larger than 1500
physically but only gigabit and wireless ethernets support this for some
reason. Perhaps there should be a standart for this otherwise the
producers wouldnt go into the trouble to support this huh? =)

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote:

 
 I believe I read somewhere that 802.11b standard supports larger MTUs than 1500.
 I know basic ethernet MTU is 1500 but even my crappy old Nortel 8603 routing switch 
supports up to MTU 1960
 
 Any corrections appreciated
 
 // Sten
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Magda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 2. januar 2003 21:59
 To: Evren Yurtesen
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: wi0 and mtu setting
 
 
 Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500 
  even though I know the card supports it?
 
 Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit and 100Mbit 
Ethernet is 1500.
 
  Will this be changed in a new version of the driver?
 
 Not unless they change the standard. I believe 1Gbit Ethernet is slightly different 
but would have to look up specifics.
 
 -- 
 David Magda dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca
 Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old 
conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well 
 under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI
 
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Re: wi0 and mtu setting

2003-01-02 Thread Evren Yurtesen
I definetely agree and obviously since mikrotikos supports this then linux
should do since mikrotikos is built on linux. Why shouldnt FreeBSD support
setting mtu of wireless interfaces higher than 1500

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Michael Sierchio wrote:

 David Magda wrote:
  Evren Yurtesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  
 I wonder how come wi driver doesnt let me to set mtu higher than 1500
 even though I know the card supports it?
  
  
  Because the maximum size of the data poriton in a frame for 10Mbit
  and 100Mbit Ethernet is 1500.
 
 That makes no sense to me.  802.11 is not ethernet.
 
 And since it's mandatory to use IPSec, SKIP or some other encapsulating
 security protocol for wireless (THANKS! IEEE!), these all reduce the
 advertised MTU size to upper layers to avoid frags.  It would be nice
 if this reduced mtu size were 1500.
 
 


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Re: Adaptec 29320 with HostRAID support

2003-01-02 Thread Scott Long
Jakub Miziolek wrote:


On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Scott Long wrote:


Has anybody used HostRAID support in Adaptec 29320 and FreeBSD? I was
trying to install 4.7-RELEASE, but it detected only controller - not 
RAID1
mirror. And of course it complains there are no disks in machine. 
DOS can
see that array. Array is supported by controller BIOS - not any
external win drivers/utility.

The RAIDframe project in FreeBSD 5.0 was intended to support Adaptec
HostRAID.  Unfortunately, priorities have changed and that effort has
stalled indefinitely.  You are welcome to contact Adaptec through
official channels and voice your concern.


Just to make Adaptec aware there is such demand from users?


Yes.  Please.



I can understand now I can only make software RAID emulation.


True, the 'secret sauce' of HostRAID is that the BIOS understands
RAID 0, 1, and 10, so you can boot off of it.  For those that only need
software RAID and those that keep their boot drive separate from their
main arrays, this is a cool feature.

Scott


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RE: FreeBSD Stability

2003-01-02 Thread Aaron Burke
 That is impressive.  I'm curious if they stayed at a particular version or
 if they update as new versions are available?  I thought I read somewhere
 that FreeBSD could load a new kernel without rebooting?

I am interested in this, and I must admit that I dont really know that
much about the kernel, but if anyone knows of a nice way to do this,
PLEASE Let me know. This would be a great for those occational updates
to freebsd-stable. I would get to keep my uptime. However, I dont think
that this is possible.

 
 -Scott
 

 On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Marcus Reid wrote:
 
  I like to point people in the direction of:
 
  http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
 

Thanks, I forgot where this site was. Its also of good use.

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