Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i did the command pkgdb -Ff and it broke my X (xfce4)  the desktop
 had been able to come up, but the cursor was the X that it has
 while it is booting.. i was able to start a terminal, but not a mozilla
 browser.  i had been able to use the terminal, but i could not move it
 around the desktop.

 pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango.

 now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4

I think you missed some of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
I'm also a bit confused on exactly what you did, because pkgdb doesn't
make any changes to the programs you can run.  At this point, you need
to start by making sure that programs that use pango are updated to
use the new one.  Something like portupgrade -fr pango.

This question would probably have been most appropriate for the
freebsd-ports mailing list.

Be well.
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Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server

2007-05-17 Thread Sachin Sharma

Hi,

FreeBSD 6.2 Kernel don't support Broadcom NIC BCM 5708S model. One need 
to patch kernel Source to make it live.  Below i written steps i took.


1, Download patch 
http://people.freebsd.org/~dwhite/patches/bce-serdes-20070111.tar.gz

2,  cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
3,  cp GENRIC   MYKERNEL
4,  mkdir /root/kernels
5,  cp GENRIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL
6.  ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL
7,  cd /usr/src
8,  make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
9   make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL

Now Reboot !!


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Scott Long wrote:


Sachin Sharma wrote:


Hi All,

NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge 
Blade 1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me.


Thanks



Support for this card has been added since 6.2 was released.

Scott

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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez
On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:51:13 -0400
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango.
 
  now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4
 
 I think you missed some of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
 I'm also a bit confused on exactly what you did, because pkgdb doesn't
 make any changes to the programs you can run.  At this point, you need
 to start by making sure that programs that use pango are updated to
 use the new one.  Something like portupgrade -fr pango.

And don't forget the big warning about gettext upgrade to 0.16, which may
break things which depend on gettext (which is a lot of things, including
Xfce).

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fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Chris

I have mentioned this before about releasing a new major version of
FreeBSD at such short intervals.  Now I am wondering what path the
FreeBSD community is taking in regards to server and desktop use.

Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release
which looks like it isnt going to happen

Multi IP Jails - waiting since 4.x, patches done for both 5.x and 6.x
but never commited.
Dynamic tcp windows - I think is patched but not heard if commited.
More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when
compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics.
A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD.
Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low
amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope
with.

The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest
ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago
and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
result of this?

The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least
every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches
will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now
and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0
hits release.

Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and
then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is
considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch.  I consider 6.2 to be
the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that
release is under a year old before a new major release is due.

Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of
linux so not been a troll this is a serious post.

Chris
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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

so the -r option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade
comamnd, just verifying

On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote:


KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


i did the command pkgdb -Ff and it broke my X (xfce4)  the desktop
had been able to come up, but the cursor was the X that it has
while it is booting.. i was able to start a terminal, but not a mozilla
browser.  i had been able to use the terminal, but i could not move it
around the desktop.

pkgdb -Ff had had a pango problem, so i did a portupgrade -f pango.

now i can't even get a terminal in my xfce4


I think you missed some of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING.
I'm also a bit confused on exactly what you did, because pkgdb doesn't
make any changes to the programs you can run.  At this point, you need
to start by making sure that programs that use pango are updated to
use the new one.  Something like portupgrade -fr pango.

This question would probably have been most appropriate for the
freebsd-ports mailing list.

Be well.


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Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server

2007-05-17 Thread Cristiano Deana

2007/5/16, Sachin Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi,


NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade
1955 Server. I need FreeBSD in these server . Please help me.


it works with 6.2-STABLE.
download a 6.2 snapshot and install it.

works fine here

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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 04:30:50PM +0100, Chris wrote:

 The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest
 ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago
 and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
 running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
 result of this?

I'll leave the src release discussion for others, and just remark that
this claim is entirely false: every release cycle has had a longer
ports freeze than this one, with the same consequences.  We don't take
freezes lightly, and the alternative is to import a bunch of
incompletely tested changes that will cause untold chaos for our
users.  I'm sure you wouldn't advocate that.

Kris (for portmgr)
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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:30 +0100, Chris wrote:
 Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release
 which looks like it isnt going to happen

[snip]

 More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when
 compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics.

Do you actually have a card which isn't recognised or doesn't work?  I
can only see one open PR about an unsupported Realtek NIC, and that is a
specific 3 port NIC, which is probably trivial to support.  I note also
that Realtek do provide FreeBSD drivers for all of their PCI network
cards.

If you are having problems, open a PR, and include information about the
card, a verbose dmesg, and the output of pciconf -l at the bare
minimum.

 A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD.

Although work on a new installer is ongoing, nobody ever seems to be
clear what the problems are with the current installer that they are
trying to fix.  I believe PC-BSD uses a different installer, which is
the current candidate, although I personally prefer the current one.
I'm guessing a new installer never make everybody happy.

 Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low
 amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope
 with.

Again, 6.x is proving very stable for a *lot* of people.  What sort of
problems are you seeing?  URLs to posts on mailing lists would be fine.

As there are so many people using 6.x for huge work loads, it may well
be something specific to your workload/hardware etc, in which case you
may well have to help with debugging.

 The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest
 ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago
 and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
 running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
 result of this?

Kris has already responded to this.

 The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least
 every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches
 will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now
 and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0
 hits release.

[ I speak purely as a FreeBSD user myself, here]

Information on EoLs of various releases is available at
http://www.freebsd.org/security/ - showing that support for both both
5.5 and 6.1 extend over a year from now.  Given the current plan is to
release 7.0 some time this year, there's at least 6 months of overlap
there.  And given 6.3 isn't yet released, and will be supported by the
Security Officer for a minimum of 12 months after the release, there
will be a fair amount of overlap there too.  And I wouldn't be surprised
if at least one more 6.x release is designated an extended support
release.

 Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and
 then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is
 considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/past-schedules.html
explains this far better than I ever could.

   I consider 6.2 to be
 the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that
 release is under a year old before a new major release is due.

Again, without knowing what issues you saw, I'm not sure anyone can
answer that.  The only real issues I am aware of with 6.0/6.1 that
weren't fixed with errata patches were either quota, IPv6 or CARP
related.

 Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of
 linux so not been a troll this is a serious post.

Please don't take my response as a flame :)

Gavin

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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Please don't top-post.

KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 so the -r option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade
 comamnd, just verifying

Yes.  Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on
pango being unable to use the new version.  

Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any
other issues you need to take special action for at the same time.
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Re: NIC (Network Card) is not detected by FreeBSD 6.2 into PowerEdge Blade 1955 Server

2007-05-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 07:08:39PM +0530, Sachin Sharma wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FreeBSD 6.2 Kernel don't support Broadcom NIC BCM 5708S model. One need to 
  patch kernel Source to make it live.  Below i written steps i took.
 
  1, Download patch 
  http://people.freebsd.org/~dwhite/patches/bce-serdes-20070111.tar.gz
  2,  cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf
  3,  cp GENRIC   MYKERNEL
  4,  mkdir /root/kernels
  5,  cp GENRIC /root/kernels/MYKERNEL
  6.  ln -s /root/kernels/MYKERNEL
  7,  cd /usr/src
  8,  make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
  9   make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
 
  Now Reboot !!

The code/patch in question was committed to the RELENG_6 tree a while
ago.

All you need to do is cvsup/csup your sourcecode to the most recent
snapshot/version of 6.2 (not what's on the CD, and not 6.2-RELEASE),
and that should suffice.  For instructions on how to do this, see:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

Note that 6, however, comes with a tool called csup (the C version
of cvsup), which performs identically and does not require you to
install ports/net/cvsup.

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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:30:50 +0100
 From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I have mentioned this before about releasing a new major version of
 FreeBSD at such short intervals.  Now I am wondering what path the
 FreeBSD community is taking in regards to server and desktop use.
 
 Stuff I would love to see in FreeBSD 7.x (CURRENT) before 7.0 release
 which looks like it isnt going to happen
 
 Multi IP Jails - waiting since 4.x, patches done for both 5.x and 6.x
 but never commited.

No idea.

 Dynamic tcp windows - I think is patched but not heard if commited.

It should be in 7.0. 7.0 will have really major network improvements. I
even had one vendor tell us that if we wanted to improve the performance
of their 10GE card, we should switch from Linux to FreeBSD-current.

 More hardware support - FreeBSD still has poor hardware support when
 compared to other OS's, in particular vendors such as realtek nics.

An on-going issue. Linux simply has more people working on device
support, so it often (but no always) gets support first. Current does
have several new network devices including more wireless NICs.
 
 A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD.

While sysinstall is ugly, I find it very easy to use and use it for
non-installation stuff (fdisk and bsdlabel) for its friendlier user
interface. I have never been happy with GUI installers although a
re-write if sysinstall would probably be a good thing.

 Work on the network code so STABLE stops panicing and lagging on low
 amounts of ddos that 4.x barely flexed at and even 5.x could cope
 with.

This is probably better, but I have not done much testing.

 The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest
 ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago
 and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
 running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
 result of this?

Now this is totally bogus. The freeze before the 6.0 release was VERY
long and several have been longer than this one has been so far.

The ports collection is one of the greatest things about FreeBSD and
having lots of ports break when a major one (such as Xorg) is updated is
very difficult and takes a lot of time to build test everything. Just
creating an upgrade procedure that works for everyone running FreeBSD of
any supported version is a major effort.

 The viability of upgrading FreeBSD to a new major version at least
 every 2 years is small, can choose not to upgrade as security patches
 will exist but ports only get supported on the latest STABLE tree now
 and I expect 5.x development will be killed off like 4.x was when 7.0
 hits release.

??? I should leave this to others, but in the past FreeBSD has received
heavy criticism for taking too long between releases. I guess you just
can't win. Yes, V5 development is pretty well at an end (though V5 was
not one of FreeBSD's better releases and I never used it on production
systems), but V6 support will continue for quite a while.

 Why cant 7.0 be released when more long awaited features are added and
 then not as STABLE tree only as CURRENT (like 5.0 was) and if 7.0 is
 considered stable then 7.1 can be STABLE branch.  I consider 6.2 to be
 the first release in 6.x branch close to proper stability and that
 release is under a year old before a new major release is due.

The release of V5.0 was as a development release because V5.0 had so
many changes from V4 that all developers had to know that there were
going to be problems, but the RE team also realized that, if they did
not draw a line in the sand, it would only get worse.

I am VERY sure that RE and the developers NEVER want to go through that
again.

As of today, CURRENT is in pretty excellent shape, but it still does
have a few issues and more will certainly pop up when it is released. No
one who has any experience is going to drop 7.0 on any critical
system. I run it on one desktop and my laptop. I am NOT going to install
7.0 on my DNS servers or any other critical system. Depending on how
things go with 7.0, I will probably install 7.1 on most systems. I may
be braver than most, though (or more foolish).

 Please dont flame me as I am a avid FreeBSD server user not a fan of
 linux so not been a troll this is a serious post.

I'm not flaming (yet), because you ask some good questions and are
probably suffering from fading memory of prior releases. (I know that I
try to forget a couple of them.)
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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 05:51:07PM +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:30 +0100, Chris wrote:
  A more user friendly installer so datacentres stop been put off FreeBSD.
 
 Although work on a new installer is ongoing, nobody ever seems to be
 clear what the problems are with the current installer that they are
 trying to fix.  I believe PC-BSD uses a different installer, which is
 the current candidate, although I personally prefer the current one.
 I'm guessing a new installer never make everybody happy.

As someone who has had to show many people how to use the FreeBSD
installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to.

Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some
of which I have);

1) Difficult to tell what's in-focus (selectiom menu vs. OK/Cancel)
   on the screen.  This could be solved by using a different colour
   for the selection area (instead of blue, use something like
   cyan/teal), I think.

2) Many buttons are labelled Cancel rather than Go Back.  Some
   cancel the entire operation (go back to the main menu), others
   go back a step.  Users find this inconsistency to be confusing.

3) Conflicting definitions of keypresses in the menu vs. the OK/Cancel
   box at the bottom.  For example, under Keymap, one of the menu
   items is labelled (C)entral European ISO, while C is also used
   for (C)ancel, depending upon which focus/menu context you're in.
   This confuses people.

4) Some Cancel/Abort items are labelled (C)ancel, others are (X)Exit.
   Make up your mind; people want a consistent key!

5) I forget which stage of the installation this happens in, but
   when choosing Cancel/Abort, the dialog you get asks you if you
   want to continue with the operation or abort.  If you choose
   abort, it reboots the machine.  This seems unnecessary.

6) I'll point out that you can hit X to jump to the Exit (go
   back) menu item, but *only* if that menu item is visible on the
   screen.  I've heard numerous complaints about that as well (and
   personally I agree with it).

7) The Options menu area requires you to scroll all the way to the
   bottom of the left column of options, and further down past it
   to reach the right column.  Users hit the Right Arrow key to
   go to the right column, which does nothing.

8) Video console is 80x25.  I am quite happy with this myself, but
   some others want something larger.  This gets complex since to
   get something larger I believe we require use of VESA.  I thought
   I'd mention it anyways.

9) Lack of mouse support in the menus.  I haven't confirmed this,
   but it seems to me that based on the installer's look, people
   expect the mouse to work.  I personally don't like the mouse (I
   find gpm to be better/more responsive/capable than moused.), but
   their point is still valid.

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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Craig Boston
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 10:24:15AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
  The recent ports freeze has also concerned me, this is the longest
  ports freeze I have witnessed since I started using FreeBSD years ago
  and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
  running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
  result of this?
 
 Now this is totally bogus. The freeze before the 6.0 release was VERY
 long and several have been longer than this one has been so far.

I think the complaint may be more a result of this being a deeper freeze
than normal.  When ports is frozen before a release, it is often still
possible to get things like security fixes and minor updates approved
and committed.  The only time it's completely frozen is during
branching, which typically doesn't take very long.

I don't know if portmgr@ has approved any commits during the xorg freeze
or not.  Even if so I suspect the critical bar may be higher this time
due to the need to manually merge changes into the git repository.

That said, it's a major undertaking and there are valid arguments on
both sides.  Hopefully it will be done soon (keep in mind this is still
a volunteer project!)

 ??? I should leave this to others, but in the past FreeBSD has received
 heavy criticism for taking too long between releases. I guess you just
 can't win. Yes, V5 development is pretty well at an end (though V5 was
 not one of FreeBSD's better releases and I never used it on production
 systems), but V6 support will continue for quite a while.

One thing to keep in mind is that with shorter releases, it's a lot
easier to move from one release to the next.  It was a Very Big Deal to
upgrade from 4.x to 5.x and required lots of pain and planning, mostly
because so much had changed.

Going from 5.x to 6.x was much easier -- for those upgrading from source
it wasn't much different than point releases on the 5.x line.

I recently upgraded a 6.x server to 7-CURRENT to test out zfs and again
it was just like cvsupping and building stable.  There's some library
version issues, but those should be resolved before the 7.0 release
happens.  It's still nowhere near the massive undertaking from 4 to 5.

 I am VERY sure that RE and the developers NEVER want to go through that
 again.

Nor the users ;)

 No one who has any experience is going to drop 7.0 on any critical
 system. I run it on one desktop and my laptop. I am NOT going to
 install 7.0 on my DNS servers or any other critical system.

I'm running -current on my home file server, which is fairly critical to
me, but then again I'm obsessive about backups, which helps :)

I don't think I'd be brave enough to try it on business-critical systems
though, which I suspect is your meaning.

Craig
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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote:


Please don't top-post.

KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


so the -r option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade
comamnd, just verifying


Yes.  Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on
pango being unable to use the new version.

Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any
other issues you need to take special action for at the same time.



this guy seems to disagree

jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and 
reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages 
from xfce.


If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed 
either.


Ricardo's comment (in your parallel thread on the freebsd-stable mailing 
list) about the gettext upgrade is probably relevant as well.

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make mplayer failed

2007-05-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


here is my error message

onfigure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 = 2.12.0atk = 1.9.0 
pa

ngo = 1.12.0cairo = 1.2.0) were not met:

No package 'atk' found
Requested 'cairo = 1.2.0' but version of cairo is 1.0.2

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables 
BASE_DEPENDENCIES_CFLAGS

and BASE_DEPENDENCIES_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.

===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh;, which will diagnose the
problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer 
cannot

solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and attach (a)
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.10.11/config.log, (b) the 
output
of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it 
might
be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your 
system

(i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website,
copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1) 
with

the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are
usually discarded by the mailing list software.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer.
bsd@/root# find / -name gnomelogalyzer.sh
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last email

2007-05-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


what i sent may or may not make sense.  i run pine for email
client and am having some buffer lag right now.  my keystrokes
are not being immeditaelyt echoed and i didn't really mean to send
it. if it DOES make sense, feeel free to comment.


sorry about that.  also typos are a symptom of the keystroke buffer
sitch.
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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Thu, 17 May 2007, John Nielsen wrote:


On Thursday 17 May 2007 02:37:15 pm KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Please don't top-post.

KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

so the -r option will be the significant difference for the
portupgrade comamnd, just verifying


Yes.  Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on
pango being unable to use the new version.

Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any
other issues you need to take special action for at the same time.


this guy seems to disagree

jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and
reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages
from xfce.

If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed
either.


Portupgrade with the -r option is very useful, and you will probably want to
use it. My point was that _before_ you try that you should figure out why
portupgrade is failing to upgrade pango, and/or upgrade it manually.
Otherwise it will just keep failing.

JN



i guess i can see how u guys r on the same page then.  he says -r won't
help, u say  it's nice.  makes sense
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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 17 May 2007 02:37:15 pm KAYVEN RIESE wrote:
 On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
  Please don't top-post.
 
  KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  so the -r option will be the significant difference for the
  portupgrade comamnd, just verifying
 
  Yes.  Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on
  pango being unable to use the new version.
 
  Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any
  other issues you need to take special action for at the same time.

 this guy seems to disagree

 jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and
 reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error messages
 from xfce.

 If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed
 either.

Portupgrade with the -r option is very useful, and you will probably want to 
use it. My point was that _before_ you try that you should figure out why 
portupgrade is failing to upgrade pango, and/or upgrade it manually. 
Otherwise it will just keep failing.

JN
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mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Albert Wong
Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem as
well... 

I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every day
or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays there
indefinitely locking down the system [until I do an apachectl restart]
after which the server load drops back down.

I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a
lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following error,
usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins: 

httpd in free(): error: recursive call
httpd in free(): error: recursive call

[Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] 

I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and MySQL 4.1. I am trying to use the libthr
threading mechanism through the libmap.conf setting, as to earlier in this
thread post, as a possible fix. [Though, I don't know if I have in fact been
successful in switching to libthr or not... because I'm not sure if I need
to recompile / reboot?  I don't know if mysql was install from a port or
not.]

In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in /etc/libmap.conf]:


[mysqld]
libc_r.so libthr.so
libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2
libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2
libpthread.so libthr.so
libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2

and I also added ...
WITH_LIBMAP= yes

to my make.conf file. 

Is there something else I need to do [e.g., recompile? / reboot?] in order
to activate libthr?  The problem remains even with these adjustments.

Blessings,
Albert Wong
www.ithou.org

PS. The mysql_logfile is completely empty... I don't know if that is unusual
or not. 

PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine:

[mysqld]
safe-show-database
skip-innodb
max_connections = 500
key_buffer = 32M
myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M
join_buffer_size = 1M
read_buffer_size = 1M
sort_buffer_size = 2M
table_cache = 1800
thread_cache_size = 384
wait_timeout = 90
connect_timeout = 10
tmp_table_size = 64M
max_heap_table_size = 64M
max_allowed_packet = 16M
max_connect_errors = 10
read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288
bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M
query_cache_limit = 3M
query_cache_size = 80M
query_cache_type = 1
query_prealloc_size = 163840
query_alloc_block_size = 32768
skip-name-resolve

[mysqld_safe]
open_files_limit = 8192

[mysqldump]
quick
max_allowed_packet = 16M

[myisamchk]
key_buffer = 16M
sort_buffer = 16M
read_buffer = 16M
write_buffer = 16M

[mysqlhotcopy]
interactive-timeout

log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile

 

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Re: xfce4 broke after pkgdb -Ff

2007-05-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 17 May 2007, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

 Please don't top-post.

 KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 so the -r option will be the significant difference for the portupgrade
 comamnd, just verifying

 Yes.  Otherwise, you may end up with some of the ports that depend on
 pango being unable to use the new version.

 Make sure you look through the UPDATING file to see if there are any
 other issues you need to take special action for at the same time.


 this guy seems to disagree

 jnielsendotnet:Try what I asked in my first reply (deleting and
 reinstalling pango manually), and see if you can get any error
 messages from xfce.

 If portupgrade -f is failing portupgrade -fr isn't likely to succeed
 either.

That's true.  I seem to have missed wherever it was that you said that
the portupgrade of pango had failed.
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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 01:35:10PM -0500, Craig Boston wrote:
  Now this is totally bogus. The freeze before the 6.0 release was VERY
  long and several have been longer than this one has been so far.
 
 I think the complaint may be more a result of this being a deeper freeze
 than normal.

That's correct.

 When ports is frozen before a release, it is often still
 possible to get things like security fixes and minor updates approved
 and committed.  The only time it's completely frozen is during
 branching, which typically doesn't take very long.

Most freezes are really more of a slush.  This is the first time we've
done an absolute, hard, freeze of this length in a long time.  But importnng
or upgrading several hundred ports, moving those and others from X11BASE
to LOCALBASE, and all the associated testing and retesting and re-retesting
just simply requires that we have everything locked down tight right now.

The alternative would have been to commit what we had and _then_ found
out all the bugs in the upgrade process (note: you won't be able to just
blindly use portupgrade -af; you will need to read the UPDATING file for
the proper procedure.  This is the unusual case of being such a sweeping
change that the port management tools are not completely up to the task.)

 I don't know if portmgr@ has approved any commits during the xorg freeze
 or not.

Nope.  There are simply too many ports that have interdependencies among
the xorg ports.

mcl
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mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Albert Wong
Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem as
well... [referring to the posts from earlier this month with the same
subject]...

I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every day
or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays there
indefinitely locking down the system [until I do an apachectl restart]
after which the server load drops back down.

I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a
lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following error,
usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins: 

httpd in free(): error: recursive call
httpd in free(): error: recursive call

[Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.] 

I am using FreeBSD 6.2 and MySQL 4.1. I am trying to use the libthr
threading mechanism through the libmap.conf setting, as to earlier in this
thread post, as a possible fix. [Though, I don't know if I have in fact been
successful in switching to libthr or not... because I'm not sure if I need
to recompile / reboot?  I don't know if mysql was install from a port or
not.]

In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in /etc/libmap.conf]:


[mysqld]
libc_r.so libthr.so
libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2
libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2
libpthread.so libthr.so
libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2

and I also added ...
WITH_LIBMAP= yes

to my make.conf file. 

Is there something else I need to do [e.g., recompile? / reboot?] in order
to activate libthr?  The problem remains even with these adjustments.

Blessings,
Albert Wong
www.ithou.org

PS. The mysql_logfile is completely empty... I don't know if that is unusual
or not. 

PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine:

[mysqld]
safe-show-database
skip-innodb
max_connections = 500
key_buffer = 32M
myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M
join_buffer_size = 1M
read_buffer_size = 1M
sort_buffer_size = 2M
table_cache = 1800
thread_cache_size = 384
wait_timeout = 90
connect_timeout = 10
tmp_table_size = 64M
max_heap_table_size = 64M
max_allowed_packet = 16M
max_connect_errors = 10
read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288
bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M
query_cache_limit = 3M
query_cache_size = 80M
query_cache_type = 1
query_prealloc_size = 163840
query_alloc_block_size = 32768
skip-name-resolve

[mysqld_safe]
open_files_limit = 8192

[mysqldump]
quick
max_allowed_packet = 16M

[myisamchk]
key_buffer = 16M
sort_buffer = 16M
read_buffer = 16M
write_buffer = 16M

[mysqlhotcopy]
interactive-timeout

log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile

 

 

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RE: mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Albert Wong
Yes... this is possible Currently, I am on MySQL 4.1.20 ... but I
believe that MySQL is backwards compatible... so I can definitely try this.

Do you know if this bug is squashed with MySQL 5.0.37 ?

Thanks,
Albert

 -Original Message-
 From: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:17 PM
 To: Albert Wong
 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2
 
 On 5/17/07, Albert Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 snip
 
 Can you go for MySQL 5.0.37?
 
 --
 Regards,
 
 -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
 Arab Portal
 http://www.WeArab.Net/

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Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri

On 5/17/07, Albert Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



snip

Can you go for MySQL 5.0.37?

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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Tuomo Latto
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 As someone who has had to show many people how to use the FreeBSD
 installer, I can confirm what Chris is referring to.
 
 Here's some of the generic end-user complaints I've heard (and some
 of which I have);
[...]

As someone who only very rarely plays with the installer, I sometimes
get bitten by the Space/Enter thing.


-- 
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... Great, so now I get to take shit from Finns on both sides of the Atlantic
for a guy I didn't elect and whose policies I don't support.
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Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Saad

Hello
   In general This is what I use for my libmap.conf , it works fine 
for me any you may want to give it a try.


 [mysqld]
 libpthread.so libthr.so
 libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2

Note nothing in MySQL 4.1 compiled on FreeBSD 6.2 should use libc_r.so . 
The other thing in your libmap that looks odd is the line  libthr.so.2 
libthr.so.2  not sure what that will do.



 In any event, my libmap.conf settings are now [located in 
/etc/libmap.conf]:



 [mysqld]
 libc_r.so libthr.so
 libc_r.so.6 libthr.so.2
 libthr.so.2 libthr.so.2
 libpthread.so libthr.so
 libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2



One thing I normally turn off in MySQL is the query_cache . If your DB 
is constantly receiving updates the query_cache is flushed to with each 
update. This creates alot of useless overhead, in fact if set it very 
high like to 1G or so you will see some nasty side effects of how MySQL 
tries to flush the cache.


As for you log you may want to move that in to the [mysqld] section of 
the config. In this setup I beleive that mysqlhotcopy would be the only 
mysql* command using that directive.


table_cache should not be greater the amount of tables your databases 
have .


read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 looks way to high your key_buffer_size is 
only 32M  Maybe you want to lower this to 64M of even leave it undefined 
to see what the default does for you.



 PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine:

 [mysqld]
 safe-show-database
 skip-innodb
 max_connections = 500
 key_buffer = 32M
 myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M
 join_buffer_size = 1M
 read_buffer_size = 1M
 sort_buffer_size = 2M
 table_cache = 1800
 thread_cache_size = 384
 wait_timeout = 90
 connect_timeout = 10
 tmp_table_size = 64M
 max_heap_table_size = 64M
 max_allowed_packet = 16M
 max_connect_errors = 10
 read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288
 bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M
 query_cache_limit = 3M
 query_cache_size = 80M
 query_cache_type = 1
 query_prealloc_size = 163840
 query_alloc_block_size = 32768
 skip-name-resolve

 [mysqld_safe]
 open_files_limit = 8192

 [mysqldump]
 quick
 max_allowed_packet = 16M

 [myisamchk]
 key_buffer = 16M
 sort_buffer = 16M
 read_buffer = 16M
 write_buffer = 16M

 [mysqlhotcopy]
 interactive-timeout

 log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile






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udp fragmentation with pf/ipf

2007-05-17 Thread Hugo Koji Kobayashi

Hello,

While making some tests with fragmented udp DNS responses (with
EDNS0), we discovered a possible problem with ipf and pf in FreeBSD
6.2 and 7.0 (200705 snapshot).

Our test is a DNS query to an DNSSEC enabled server which replies with
a ~4KB udp response. We do this with the following dig command:

 dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0

ipf and pf in FreeBSD 6.2 or 7.0 block the fragments and the DNS
queries timeout. Disabling the firewall, complete replies are received
with no problem.

We've made the same tests with FreeBSD 4.11 with ipf and OpenBSD 4.1
with pf with no problems. You can see a summary of the tests below.

  OS + fwdig result
fbsd4.11 + ipf  OK
obsd4.1 + pfOK
fbsd6.2 OK
fbsd6.2 + ipf timeout
fbsd6.2 + pf  timeout
fbsd7.0 OK
fbsd7.0 + ipf timeout
fbsd7.0 + pf  timeout

Complete test results (including tcpdump output and firewall rule
sets) are attached.

Can somebody tell us if he hit a bug or if there is something we are
missing?

Thanks,
Hugo

## FreeBSD 4.11 + ipfilter - dig OK

fbsd4.11# uname -v
FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 21 17:21:22 GMT 2005 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 

fbsd4.11# ipf -V
ipf: IP Filter: v3.4.35 (336)
Kernel: IP Filter: v3.4.35  
Running: yes
Log Flags: 0 = none set
Default: pass all, Logging: available
Active list: 0

fbsd4.11# ipfstat -ion
@1 pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 
53 keep state keep frags
@2 pass out quick on bge0 proto tcp/udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any keep 
state
@3 pass out quick on bge0 proto icmp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any keep state
@4 pass out quick on lo0 from any to any
@5 block out log from any to any
@1 pass in quick on bge0 proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx.81/32 to xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 
port = 22 keep state
@2 pass in quick on lo0 from any to any
@3 block in log from any to any

fbsd4.11# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107
tcpdump: listening on bge0
09:46:16.546878 xxx.xxx.xxx.113.2897  192.36.144.107.53:  37118+ [1au] Type48? 
se. (31)
09:46:16.789319 192.36.144.107.53  xxx.xxx.xxx.113.2897:  37118*- 8/10/24 
Type48[|domain] (frag 8851:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
09:46:16.789325 192.36.144.107  xxx.xxx.xxx.113: udp (frag 8851:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED])
09:46:16.789331 192.36.144.107  xxx.xxx.xxx.113: udp (frag 8851:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED])

fbsd4.11# grep 192.36.144.107 /var/log/messages
May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.546867 bge0 @0:1 p 
xxx.xxx.xxx.113,2897 - 192.36.144.107,53 PR udp len 20 59 K-S K-F OUT
May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.789339 bge0 @0:1 p 
192.36.144.107,53 - xxx.xxx.xxx.113,2897 PR udp len 20 1500 K-S K-F IN
May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.789347 bge0 @-1:-1 p 
192.36.144.107 - xxx.xxx.xxx.113 PR udp len 20 (1500) (frag 8851:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) K-S K-F IN
May 17 09:46:16 fbsd4.11 ipmon[54]: 09:46:16.789353 bge0 @-1:-1 p 
192.36.144.107 - xxx.xxx.xxx.113 PR udp len 20 (1154) (frag 8851:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) K-S K-F IN

fbsd4.11# /usr/local/bin/dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 
+retry=0

;  DiG 9.4.1  @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37118
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
[...]
;; Query time: 245 msec
;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107)
;; WHEN: Thu May 17 09:46:16 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 4086




## FreeBSD 6.2 + no firewall - dig OK

fbsd6.2# uname -v
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP

fbsd6.2# dig @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0

;  DiG 9.3.3  @192.36.144.107 se dnskey +dnssec +bufsize=4500 +retry=0
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7745
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 8, AUTHORITY: 10, ADDITIONAL: 24

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;se.IN  DNSKEY
[...]
;; Query time: 243 msec
;; SERVER: 192.36.144.107#53(192.36.144.107)
;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:31:39 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 4086




## FreeBSD 6.2 + pf - dig timeout

fbsd6.2# uname -v
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP 

fbsd6.2# pfctl -sr
No ALTQ support in kernel
ALTQ related functions disabled
scrub in all fragment reassemble
block drop in log all
pass in on bge0 inet proto tcp from xxx.xxx.xxx.81 to xxx.xxx.xxx.87 port = ssh 
keep state
pass out on bge0 proto tcp all keep state
pass out on bge0 proto udp all keep state
pass out on bge0 proto icmp all keep state

fbsd6.2# tcpdump -i bge0 -np host 192.36.144.107

Re: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Andrews

This should be rejected as keep frags is meaningless here.

pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 53
 keep state keep frags

You need

pass in quick from any to any with frag keep frag
 
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Re: udp fragmentation with pf/ipf

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Andrews

 
   This should be rejected as keep frags is meaningless here.
 
 pass out log quick on bge0 proto udp from xxx.xxx.xxx.113/32 to any port = 53
  keep state keep frags
 
   You need
   
   pass in quick from any to any with frag keep frag

The reason is that ip fragments not have next level headers. 
  
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Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Michael Schuh

Hello Albert,
Hello @list,

first, i be a native german speaker, so please excuse my ugly english.

Greetings everyone... I am observing what appears to be a similar problem as

well...

I have a dedicated server with *very* light traffic. It looks like every
day
or so my server load slowly climbs from 0.20 to 14.00 and then stays there
indefinitely locking down the system [until I do an apachectl
restart]
after which the server load drops back down.

I'm not getting any weird Fatal Errors from PHP or any Warnings [though a
lot of PHP Notices.]. The apache httpd_error.log shows the following
error,
usually, when the slow climb to 14.00 server load begins:

httpd in free(): error: recursive call
httpd in free(): error: recursive call

[Usually it only shows about three or four of these repeated errors.]


--8---snip---8---
I have experiences with an similar Problem with apache in combination
with php4 and it's modules. If you have the wrong modules / order of modules
in
the extensions.ini so that apache disappears with segfault ( my be signal 6
or 11 ) if you try an reload.

hope this helps a little bit.

greetings

michael
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RE: mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Albert Wong
Mark:  Thanks for the tips about the placement of the log into [mysqld] --
maybe it will start to show some error messages if I put it up into the
mysqld section.  :-)  I will also take a look at table_cache and query_cache
and read_rnd_buffer_size.  [I've got some reading / figuring out to do!]

Michael:  And thanks also for the suggestion at looking into extensions.ini
for the order of the modules.  I'm not quite sure what do to there, but I'll
definitely research this.

Blessings,
Albert
 
 One thing I normally turn off in MySQL is the query_cache . If your DB
 is constantly receiving updates the query_cache is flushed to with each
 update. This creates alot of useless overhead, in fact if set it very
 high like to 1G or so you will see some nasty side effects of how MySQL
 tries to flush the cache.
 
 As for you log you may want to move that in to the [mysqld] section of
 the config. In this setup I beleive that mysqlhotcopy would be the only
 mysql* command using that directive.
 
 table_cache should not be greater the amount of tables your databases
 have .
 
 read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288 looks way to high your key_buffer_size is
 only 32M  Maybe you want to lower this to 64M of even leave it undefined
 to see what the default does for you.
 
 
   PPS. Here's the my.cnf settings for this machine:
  
   [mysqld]
   safe-show-database
   skip-innodb
   max_connections = 500
   key_buffer = 32M
   myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M
   join_buffer_size = 1M
   read_buffer_size = 1M
   sort_buffer_size = 2M
   table_cache = 1800
   thread_cache_size = 384
   wait_timeout = 90
   connect_timeout = 10
   tmp_table_size = 64M
   max_heap_table_size = 64M
   max_allowed_packet = 16M
   max_connect_errors = 10
   read_rnd_buffer_size = 524288
   bulk_insert_buffer_size = 8M
   query_cache_limit = 3M
   query_cache_size = 80M
   query_cache_type = 1
   query_prealloc_size = 163840
   query_alloc_block_size = 32768
   skip-name-resolve
  
   [mysqld_safe]
   open_files_limit = 8192
  
   [mysqldump]
   quick
   max_allowed_packet = 16M
  
   [myisamchk]
   key_buffer = 16M
   sort_buffer = 16M
   read_buffer = 16M
   write_buffer = 16M
  
   [mysqlhotcopy]
   interactive-timeout
  
   log = /var/log/mysql/mysql_logfile
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread Ivan Voras

Chris wrote:


and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
result of this?


This looks like another call to have RELENG_x branches on ports, with 
which I agree.


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Re: fast rate of major FreeBSD releases to STABLE

2007-05-17 Thread LI Xin
Ivan Voras wrote:
 Chris wrote:
 
 and its for a desktop element of the os, does it matter if servers
 running FreeBSD have to remain on vulnerable versions of ports as a
 result of this?
 
 This looks like another call to have RELENG_x branches on ports, with
 which I agree.

Hmm...  Branching is not about to do it, or not to do it, but about
who will invest their time to do it.  By making it as an official
offer we have to make sure that:

 - STABLE branch is well maintained.
   What's the rule of MFC in these branches?  For src/ the answer is
clear, but for ports/ I do not think it's obvious.  What's the standard
choosing particular ports' version?  Who will be responsible for that?
 - packages are continuously built and mirrored.
   This could cause confusion about should I use -HEAD ports/, or
RELENG_X ports/?  Not to mention that it needs a doubled computation
resource for package cluster.

So, while I agree that having branches is a very nice idea I feel that
it is not quite exercisable at the moment.  It's easy for committers to
do make universe to verify that their work does not break build, but
it's not that easy for porters to make sure that a commit does not break
the -STABLE branch...

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Re: mysql frequently crash on 6.2

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Samplonius
- Albert Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 key_buffer = 32M

  key_buffer has the most influence over the performance of MyISAM database.  
You should increase it as much as possible.  On a dedicated 2GB server, 1GB is 
good.  But it only helps, if you actually have indexes.  There is no point is 
increasing it bigger than the size of your indexes (*.MYI files).  But if you 
can hold all of the indexes in RAM, everything gets really, really fast.

  BTW, I agree with the other comments about the MySQL query cache.  It is more 
of a work around for two problems:

* A poorly indexed database, so that queries that return small results don't 
use an index, so caching the results is required.

* Dumb applications that send the same query over and over again, even though 
the database has not changed.  Some e-mail servers do this.

A query cache should be small (5MB or less), if you use it at all.  And you 
should never cache large results (there is an option that sets the size 
threshold).


  But I use MySQL 5.0 on several FreeBSD 6 systems, and they are moderately 
busy (250 q/s  450 q/s), and it works ok.  MyISAM is the problem, and I need 
to switch to InnoDB.


Tom
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