SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4
I suppose the question is was there a problem with the Tyan S5350 motherboard and its ATA controller - I know that two identical motherboards with different hard disks exhibit the same problem. And if so why is it that there has been little on these lists about problems with the chipset which is on this motherboard (a fairly common one I believe from Intel). Although the problem went away the machines filesystem seems to have got corrupted so maybe all was not fixed after all. There have been a number of comments and queries about ATA problems and SATA problems with 5.4 but no views as to if this is a real problem. Any insights would be gratefully received. One aside when trying to upgrade using CVSUP does the tag need to be RELENG_5 or RELENG_5_4? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (Adaptec AIC-8110 Compatibility maybe?)
Totally agree - I have 2 idential machines that have the same problem And have tried alternate hard disks all of which exhibit the same Problem. I would agree with you that the ICH5 must be common and the Tyan S3530 (http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigeri7320r_spec.html ) with the Intel 6300SEB which I would have thought (as you say) was very common. I did notice that Tyan offer the Adaptec AIC-8110 SATA I controller as an add on module and I wondered if that might be supported but it doesn't seem by that number to be on the release list (any thoughts). -Original Message- From: Tony Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:29 AM To: Alan Jay Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 Hello Alan, AJ There have been a number of comments and queries about ATA problems and SATA AJ problems with 5.4 but no views as to if this is a real problem. I have to agree. I've had nothing but trouble with various Intel boards with Intel ICH5 controllers and SATA hard disks under FreeBSD and yet the problem either doesn't seem to be widespread and isn't recognized by the community in general. I find that strange since the ICH5 must be common in the field along with SATA disks from Western Digital. I would have believed faulty hardware to be the cause, but I have *three* machines that are capable of generating DMA TIMEOUTs while reading or writing SATA disks. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Byrne ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4
I thought that as well. My machine is using a Tyan motherbaord with the Intel 6300SEB and I thought that was a reasnably conservative choice of motherboard. I don't know if this is a hint not to use SATA/IDE controllers any more but there are lots of occasions when it is more than enough power to be going on with. What is annoying is that there doesn't seem to be enough in the way of problem reports to say this is not supported so we know we are on to a loosing streak and need to find an alternate type of hardware. Does anyone know if the Adaptec AIC-8110 SATA I controller, which Tyan offer, as an add on module is supported. The release notes which I have checked do not mention this number. But hten this is probably a part number and not the chip number. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthias Buelow Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:49 PM To: Tony Byrne Cc: Alan Jay; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 Tony Byrne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ICH5 must be common in the field along with SATA disks from Western Digital. I would have believed faulty hardware to be the cause, but I have *three* machines that are capable of generating DMA TIMEOUTs while reading or writing SATA disks. In my case here, it's ICH6 and Seagate. Normally this is a good combination that should work flawlessly... I mean, you can't get more conservative than an Intel chipset and a Seagate disk. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350
Further to this the same ATA Timeout is seen in the latest SNAP binaries (1st July). ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350
Thanks for this - I haven't try but will do so - but I do need a little help. I have downloaded the STABLE version and put it onto my machines. Do I have to compile the ATA driver into the system and if so how do I do so (sorry to ask no instructions on the web site below). Thanks. -Original Message- From: Dominic Marks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:00 PM To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 On Friday 01 July 2005 16:34, Alan Jay wrote: Further to this the same ATA Timeout is seen in the latest SNAP binaries (1st July). Do you see them with ATA mkIII as well? http://people.freebsd.org/~sos/ATA/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH, -- Dominic GoodforBusiness.co.uk I.T. Services for SMEs in the UK. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350
Tony, Interesting that you have seen different disks producing different timeout issues (or not) so far on my experiments with 4 different disks 2 SATA 2 IDE (different dises) is that the timeout error has appears on all of them. Regads ALan -Original Message- From: Tony Byrne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:12 PM To: Dominic Marks Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: SATA Problems - ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 Hello Dominic, DM Do you see them with ATA mkIII as well? I tried the ATA mkIII patches a few weeks ago on one of servers, which was suffering DMA TIMEOUTs, but they made no difference. This problem may only occur with certain combinations of controller and SATA hard drive. For example, I have a workstation with an ICH5 controller which had been frequently emitting TIMEOUT messages when it had a 80Gb 7200k Seagate Barracuda SATA drive installed. As a test this afternoon, I swapped out the Seagate for a new 250Gb Western Digital SATA drive, and installed 5.4 RELEASE. The machine is now in the process of building world, and I've yet to see any TIMEOUTs. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Byrne ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (problems booting - SATA hard disk not recognised) -
Hi, Thought I would report back what I discovered. Following some suggestions on this list I booted into safe mode and installed the operating system successfully. I still couldn't get the machine to boot except in safe mode. After updating the source to the latest stable incarnation via cvsup I did a makeworld and rebuilt the kernel to take advantage of SMP support of our twin processors. At the end of that process the server boots fine. Not sure what the error was but it is still the case if you use the basic downloaded boot CD from the archives and boot the server it complains as below. But with the recompiled kernel it is fine. Does anyone have any insigts? Regards Alan -Original Message- From: Alan Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:25 PM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'; 'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org' Subject: ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (problems booting - SATA hard disk not recognised) - Hi, I just got a new Tyan S5350 using twin Xeon processors I am told this is now a very standard motherboard. Unfortunately when I try to boot FreeBSD 5.4 Release I get the following errors on the IDE/ATA/SATA connection. The errors I get during boot up are as follows: The hard disk is not recognised you get the error: Ata0_master: Failure ATAPI_IDENTITY timeout (x3) Then Ata1_master: Failure ATA_Identify timeout (x3) This is true if I use a standard IDE drive (160Gb) or a SATA drive (250Gb). The BIOS recognises the drives and is happy with them but the OS has this problem. The board appears to use the Intel 6300SEB chip set using for the IDE/ATA/SATA is it supported? Or is there a problem with my motherboard? The board we have is: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigeri7320r_spec.html If anyone is using this motherboard successfully please let me know so I can organise a replacement. Any other help gratefully received. Alan Jay PS The rest of the machine specs are - twin Xeon processor; 4 Gb RAM; Intel Gigabit Network card in the PCI slot. 250Gb SATA drive. PPS Having looked around the lists there appear to be people who say this is related to the issues described 5.2.1 release errata (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/errata.html) PPPS loading in safe mode does work but it isn't a viable way to run a server anyone got any ideas why this occurs and how to work around it the ideas in the errata for 5.2.1 don't seem to work assuming that I have the syntax correct in the /boot/loader.comf ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (problems booting - SATA hard disk not recognised) -
Hi, I just got a new Tyan S5350 using twin Xeon processors I am told this is now a very standard motherboard. Unfortunately when I try to boot FreeBSD 5.4 Release I get the following errors on the IDE/ATA/SATA connection. The errors I get during boot up are as follows: The hard disk is not recognised you get the error: Ata0_master: Failure ATAPI_IDENTITY timeout (x3) Then Ata1_master: Failure ATA_Identify timeout (x3) This is true if I use a standard IDE drive (160Gb) or a SATA drive (250Gb). The BIOS recognises the drives and is happy with them but the OS has this problem. The board appears to use the Intel 6300SEB chip set using for the IDE/ATA/SATA is it supported? Or is there a problem with my motherboard? The board we have is: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tigeri7320r_spec.html If anyone is using this motherboard successfully please let me know so I can organise a replacement. Any other help gratefully received. Alan Jay PS The rest of the machine specs are - twin Xeon processor; 4 Gb RAM; Intel Gigabit Network card in the PCI slot. 250Gb SATA drive. PPS Having looked around the lists there appear to be people who say this is related to the issues described 5.2.1 release errata (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/errata.html) PPPS loading in safe mode does work but it isn't a viable way to run a server anyone got any ideas why this occurs and how to work around it the ideas in the errata for 5.2.1 don't seem to work assuming that I have the syntax correct in the /boot/loader.comf ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with Serial ATA - Tyan Tiger i7320 motherboard
I just got a machine Tyan Tiger i7320 motherboard with a 250Gb Serial ATA Hitachi drive. When I try to boot FreeBSD 5.4 Release it says: ATA0 ATAPI IDENTITY_TIMEOUT several times And ATA1 IDENTIFY_TIMEOUT Before the install starts - RedHat Liunx correctly sees the drive. :( Does this mean FreeBSD does not support this or have I got the wrong BIOS settings. Any help gratefully received. It is an Adaptec AIC-8110 SATA I controller I think. In the startup of FreeBSD it says Intel 6300ESB UDMA100 controller (atapci0 atapci1) Thanks ALan ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4
Hi, I have a Tyan based 1U computer with twin Xeon and 6Gb RAM which we recently installed 5.4 Release on. When we recompiled the kernel with the SMP and PAE options it would randomly reboot but so far (touch wood) using it with just 4Gb or RAM and removing the PAE kernel (just leaving the SMP one) it seems to be stable. We have yet to successfully get a PAE kernel to run consistently. While running the ACPI/HTT and SMP seem to work ok have you tried this? ALan -Original Message- Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:58:53 +0100 From: Danny Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on a DELL PE2850. FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU) real memory = 5100273664 (4864 MB) avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB) MPTable: DELL PE 016D FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 6 amr0: LSILogic PERC 4e/Di Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole system memory available. However the problem I have is the system can crash at any moment, and is not load related. As the crash info below is when the machine was in an 100% idle state. I have tried to install other versions of FreeBSD. 4.11 Release (Doesn't see all available memory even with a kernel patch) 5.4 Release (Crashes at random times, but mainly under load, running squid) Does anyone have similar problems or have found a work around? Danny C ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problems with setting kern.maxdsiz in /boot/loader.conf
I am running 5.4 RC4 and rebooted today after changing one of the boot-time variables (maximum data size) in /boot/loader.conf. I took it from 512MB to 2GB of RAM in order to improve the MySQL performance on the server. However, upon reboot, the following error comes up: Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 instruction pointer = 0x58:0x8bc stack pointer = 0x10:0xf80 frame pointer = 0x10:0x0 code segment= base 0xc00f, limit 0x, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 0 processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault cpuid = 0 Uptime: 1s I tried resetting kern.maxdsiz backto 512MB by pressing 6 at the boot menu and doing: unset kern.maxdsiz set kern.maxdsiz=536870912 show kern.maxdsiz - this did not have any effect - exactly the same thing happened again. Is the kern.maxdsiz now being reset or being reset by /boot/loader.conf after changing things in the loader does anyone have any ideas. Nothing else has changed on the server which is being prepared for use at the moment and was updated to 5.4 RC4 just a few days ago but which has been running fine and rebooting fine since then until this change. Any ideas? Thanks in advance Alan PS I assume the only way to remove /boot/loader.conf is to use the 2nd CD set in fixit mode and remove / edit the file after mounting the root partition. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with AMD64 and 8 GB RAM?
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:12:35 +0900 From: Ganbold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Problems with AMD64 and 8 GB RAM? Hi, Since we are discussing AMD64 with 8GB RAM, I also would like to point my problem. I'm still looking for possibility to run FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE with more than 4GB RAM on Dual amd64 2.2GHz machine (IBM @server 325) with ServeRAID 6M (ips driver)). Right now I'm using only 4GB RAM and this server is in production. #uname -an FreeBSD publica.ub.mng.net 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #12: Mon Nov 22 12:04:57 ULAT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/AMD amd64 As Scott said a few months ago, problem is below: The ips driver looks like it will fail under heavy load when more than 4GB of RAM is present. It tries to force busdma to not defer requests when the bounce page reserve is low, but that looks to be broken and will result in corrupted commands. [Alan Jay] Since we are talking about FreeBSD on AMD64 on the AMD64 list I have reported issues on that list. I have a TyanThunder K8S pro S2882 twin Operteron with 8Gb of RAM and although I can get the machine to run reasonably stably with 8Gb of RAM with limited loading when pushed it falls over unpredictably. We did some tests with the latest 5.3-STABLE / 5.4-PRERELEASE and still found the same issues when using a mySQL database heavily hit over the Ethernet controller. Our final tests limited the memory on boot-up to 4Gb and the bug is still there so we think it may well be some interaction with the Ethernet controller. The motherboard we have has a BroadcomBCM5704C 10/100/1000 based card on board. Again this works fine initially but then we get a very dramatic failure with no warning messages and the system falls over. There are still a few issues to be ironed out with the FreeBSD 5.x on AMD64 the latest STABLE/PRE-RELEASE is much improved but be aware there may be issues. We will be waiting a few more weeks before re-trying these tests to see if the latest fixes that have been discussed have solved our problems. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPDATE 5.3-STABLE was Re: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on TyanThunder K8S pro S2882 twin Operteron
Hi, Well after upgrading to the latest -STABLE via cvsup and makeworld makekernel etc we have been doing some more tests over the weekend. One of our databases ran fine all weekend so we took the plunge on Sunday to try our big heavily accessed database. It ran fine until 7.45 Monday morning - when I checked at 7.30am it was using around 6 of the 8Gb of RAM the server then logged: Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: bge1: discard frame w/o leading ethernet header (len 4294967292 pkt len 4294967292) Followed by: Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: Fatal trap 12: pag Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: e f Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: ault Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: wh Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: ile in Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: k Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: er Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: ne Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: l mode Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: cp Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: ui Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: d Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: = Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: 1; Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: a Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: pi Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: c Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: i Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: d Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: = Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: 01 Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: fa Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: ul Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: t Mar 7 07:42:47 flappy kernel: vi Subsequently to that it has crashed a number of times and on a couple of occasions has reported: kernel: fxp0: can't map mbuf (error 12) To my uninitiated eye it looks like this might have something to do with the Network Performance Project which seems to be tinkering in this area but I would appreciate any thoughts anyone might have regarding this. By the way over the weekend the latest -STABLE which is marked 5.4-PRERELEASE 2 seemed much better than 5.3 had and the initial problems took much longer to appear. Though once the problems started to appear, they repeated themselves rebooting every 1-2hrs until we removed the tests data. Thanks for the guidance, ALan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can FreeBSD 5.3R support the RAID card MegaRAID SCSI 320-2E
Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 5.3R support the RAID card MegaRAID SCSI 320-2E card? I have search amr on http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=amrsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+5.3- RELEASE It said support the following: 7 AMI MegaRAID 320-1 7 AMI MegaRAID 320-2 7 AMI MegaRAID 320-4X 7 AMI MegaRAID Series 418 Anyone knows amr supports MegaRAID SCSI 320-2E card? TKS. The amr(4) manpage in -CURRENT lists the 320 variants, the -2E specifically (is that a PCI Express version?). We have a amr(4) driver update coming in shortly to -CURRENT and then RELENG_5; keep an eye out for that and test it if you can. We use these RAID controllers on our machines and have been running the 320-1 and 320-2 with 4.10 very happily and without incident. We have also been running the 320-1 on 5.3 -STABLE and although we have had problems with 5.3 it hasn't had anything to do with the RAID controller :). From the LSI Logic web site (http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/index.html) the E does look like the PCI Express version. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on TyanThunder K8S pro S2882 twin Operteron
A couple of weeks ago we reported a potential problem with the Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 onboard Ethernet (being used in Gigabit mode) controller on the Tyan Thunder pro S2882 with twin Operteron and 8Gb of RAM. The system was running a three databases using mySQL - the first database ran fine but the others when hit hard caused the server to crash in what appeared to be a memory / Ethernet controller error. We have now done the first phase of some tests and thought we would report back. We switched off the broadcom Ethernet controller (via software) and routed all traffic via the boards Intel 10/000 Ethernet connection. One of the problem databases has now been running for a few days and so far has been ok. We will be doing some more tests over the next few days but this seems to be pointing to some issues with the driver for the Broadcom Ethernet Chipset. Alan Having got 5.3 onto our new twin operteron Tyan Thunder K8S Pro S2882 with 8Gb of RAM and had a reasonabley stable operation for a few days we installed a couple of databases one worked fine but the other kept on causing the server to crash. After some hunting around we found discussion about problems with the on board Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 Gigabit ethernet controller on Linux last year and wondered if there were similar issues with FreeBSD 5.3's broadcom driver? The problem only seems to happen when the controller is streched with lots of data as the other mySQL database runs fine but switching to the more load intensive one causes issues. Thanks in advance for your advice. Alan Jay ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard (2)
-Original Message- From: David O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 04:53:24PM -, Alan Jay wrote: I had major problems installing with more than 4Gb but once I moved to stable we seemed to have a stable platform when doing basic stuff - we have two databases (mySQL) one is reasonably heavily used and one very extensively used. Just to be clear, you're stating you had stability problems with 5.3-RELEASE and 4GB. But with 5.3-STABLE and 4GB you have a stable system. Correct? [Alan Jay] Further to my comments yesterday - I would say that the system appeared to be stable. It is possible that when we ran a more extensive and more often hit database that it used more memory and that is what caused the problem. BUT all the tests we did relating to memory didn't turn up any issues - so we looked for other culprits. One of the few errors we saw was relating to the Broadcom Gigabit link - I will try to do some tests in the next week or so using the other onboard Ethernet controller to see if that rules out the Broadcom or focuses the cause of the problem. I think I agree wholeheartedly with your comments being a great supporter of FreeBSD it is a shame that the AMD release is not as super as the other versions we have used extensively. Of course one reason many are moving to the AMD64 platform is to have 4GB RAM in the machine. We believe this bug has been fixed in 5.3-STABLE. But too few people are testing 5.3-STABLE and are using 5.3-RELEASE instead. This isn't helping us QA the issue so that we know all the corner cases are fixed in upcoming 5.4 release. [Alan Jay] Thanks for this and it was exactly the reason we moved to the AMD64 platform. A recent 5.3-STABLE snapshot can be found as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/Feb_2005/5.3-STABLE-SNAP001- amd64-miniinst.iso and mirrors. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard
Thanks for this - the oddity is we have two identical machines and on one the problem occurred we then moved the application over to the other machines that had been working fine and it then exhibited the same symptoms - hence the query about the broadcom controller. I am hoping to so some further tests using the other Ethernet controller on the board if I can get it plugged in (unfortunately the machines are in a data center to which I don't have direct access). Thanks for the ideas. ALan -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:16 PM To: Alan Jay Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Alan Jay wrote: I have FreeBSD 5.3 STABLE onto our new twin operteron Tyan Thunder K8S Pro S2882 with 8Gb of RAM and had a reasonably stable operation for a few days we installed a couple of databases one worked fine but the other kept on causing the server to crash. I'm about to gain access to an S2881, which is a similar board (different layout but same parts). I have searched the archive and there were issues last year but I couldn't work out if these have been totally resolved? The adapter does work fine in low levels of loading but when pushed (it is connected to a Gigabit switch) it seems to be the cause of the reboot - a what appeared to be stable server with moderate Ethernet activity was fine upping the activity with a new service caused regular reboots. There is no console message at the point of reboot to help that we have spotted. Hm, triple fault or other hardware reset. This usually indicates bad hardware. Have you tried swapping the RAM between the systems and seeing if the problem follows? An unrecoverable ECC fault can cause a reboot, along with strangeness caused by temperature/power supply/etc. Or the board could be Just Plain Bad. Considering you have one working machine, adn this is a very popular board, I don't think it s abasic problem with FreeBSD and this hardware. The worst thing reported is interrupt routing usually. -- Doug White| FreeBSD: The Power to Serve [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.FreeBSD.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard
Thanks Jonathan for this, can I ask the unmentionalble (which Linux implementation did you pick?). I had major problems installing with more than 4Gb but once I moved to stable we seemed to have a stable platform when doing basic stuff - we have two databases (mySQL) one is reasonably heavily used and one very extensively used. They sit on different servers to maximise performance. One worked perfectly for a couple of weeks while the other more extensive one repeatedly fell over. I think I agree wholeheartedly with your comments being a great supporter of FreeBSD it is a shame that the AMD release is not as super as the other versions we have used extensively. Thanks for your support. Regards ALan -Original Message- From: Jonathan A. Dama [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:47 AM To: Doug White Cc: Alan Jay; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard We also have these boards, I've found them unusable under FreeBSD/5.3-STABLE with 8GB of RAM--other qualities appear to work okay. But I even saw some infrequent problems with 6GB. FreeBSD/amd64 is not in my opinion not actually a stable tier 1 quality release under these configurations, too many problems remain--especially in regards to ia32 emulation. Exigencies of the moment forced us to forgo further debugging and adopt linux/amd64. (Sadly, some people actually have to get work done on their hardware...) To anyone who wants to peg these problems on hardware, running linux these machines have operated without fault while under a mix of high computational and i/o load. moreover, the machines were tested extensively using memtest+ in a controlled ambient temperature range from 60F to 80F. This is a really lamentable situation. We've been a primarily FreeBSD shop for 10 years now and for the past 4 years or so a pure FreeBSD shop. Switching to linux on just these machines has been quite the headache but I'm holding on to the hope that FreeBSD/amd64 will shape up. FYI, most of the positive reports I've seen regarding FreeBSD and this motherboard are 2GB setups. In my own testing that arrangement worked _very_ well. Addendum: The RAM timing is a bit marginal on the second processor. i.e., RAM that runs fine under extensive memtest+ ing has trouble doing 400MHz DDR on the Second Processor. We ended up running it at 333MHz DDR -Jon On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Doug White wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Alan Jay wrote: I have FreeBSD 5.3 STABLE onto our new twin operteron Tyan Thunder K8S Pro S2882 with 8Gb of RAM and had a reasonably stable operation for a few days we installed a couple of databases one worked fine but the other kept on causing the server to crash. I'm about to gain access to an S2881, which is a similar board (different layout but same parts). I have searched the archive and there were issues last year but I couldn't work out if these have been totally resolved? The adapter does work fine in low levels of loading but when pushed (it is connected to a Gigabit switch) it seems to be the cause of the reboot - a what appeared to be stable server with moderate Ethernet activity was fine upping the activity with a new service caused regular reboots. There is no console message at the point of reboot to help that we have spotted. Hm, triple fault or other hardware reset. This usually indicates bad hardware. Have you tried swapping the RAM between the systems and seeing if the problem follows? An unrecoverable ECC fault can cause a reboot, along with strangeness caused by temperature/power supply/etc. Or the board could be Just Plain Bad. Considering you have one working machine, adn this is a very popular board, I don't think it s abasic problem with FreeBSD and this hardware. The worst thing reported is interrupt routing usually. -- Doug White| FreeBSD: The Power to Serve [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.FreeBSD.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard
The 4GB problems with 5.3-RELEASE are a well known problem and affect for i386 and amd64. It's pretty much fixed in the 5.3-STABLE stream, but there are a few edge cases that I still need to fix which prevent me from feeling good about turning it into a 5.3-R errata fix. It'll definitely be fixed and fully working for 5.4-RELEASE next month. Scott Scott thanks for that update. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard
-Original Message- On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 04:53:24PM -, Alan Jay wrote: I had major problems installing with more than 4Gb but once I moved to stable we seemed to have a stable platform when doing basic stuff - we have two databases (mySQL) one is reasonably heavily used and one very extensively used. Just to be clear, you're stating you had stability problems with 5.3-RELEASE and 4GB. But with 5.3-STABLE and 4GB you have a stable system. Correct? [Alan Jay] I could not install with RELEASE but could with Stable. Once installed and running we installed mySQL on the two machines one we copied over a relatively simple database which ran fine without a problem. The second machine then had another mySQL database moved to it and it started to fall over. After a number of tests we moved the first database off the what had been working server and put the other database on it. At which point that server which had been stable fell over! I think I agree wholeheartedly with your comments being a great supporter of FreeBSD it is a shame that the AMD release is not as super as the other versions we have used extensively. The problem is a major bug that has existed since FreeBSD ?3.0? was exposed very close to the 5.3 release cycle. This bug only causes a major problem with 4GB, thus few of us developers experienced it. [Most of us can't afford 4GB in our machines. Donations of 1GB DIMMs for FreeBSD developers are accepted by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Alan Jay] I'll put them on my present list :) Of course one reason many are moving to the AMD64 platform is to have 4GB RAM in the machine. We believe this bug has been fixed in 5.3-STABLE. But too few people are testing 5.3-STABLE and are using 5.3-RELEASE instead. This isn't helping us QA the issue so that we know all the corner cases are fixed in upcoming 5.4 release. [Alan Jay] Well the memory seemed to be stable on 5.3 STABLE with more than 4Gb in our case 8Gb there seems to be some other problem at work here. A recent 5.3-STABLE snapshot can be found as ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/Feb_2005/5.3-STABLE-SNAP001- amd64-miniinst.iso and mirrors. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Possible problems with Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 on Tyan Motherboard
Hi, I have FreeBSD 5.3 STABLE onto our new twin operteron Tyan Thunder K8S Pro S2882 with 8Gb of RAM and had a reasonably stable operation for a few days we installed a couple of databases one worked fine but the other kept on causing the server to crash. I have searched the archive and there were issues last year but I couldn't work out if these have been totally resolved? The adapter does work fine in low levels of loading but when pushed (it is connected to a Gigabit switch) it seems to be the cause of the reboot - a what appeared to be stable server with moderate Ethernet activity was fine upping the activity with a new service caused regular reboots. There is no console message at the point of reboot to help that we have spotted. After some hunting around we found discussion about problems with this motherboards on board Broadcom BCM5704C 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet controller on Linux last year and wondered if there were similar issues with FreeBSD 5.3's Broadcom driver? The problem only seems to happen when the controller is stretched with lots of data as the other mySQL database runs fine but switching to the more load intensive one causes issues. Thanks in advance for your advice. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
