Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing
On 4/23/2013 8:15 AM, Tom Evans wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 01:20:31PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: 4) camcontrol wouldn't address the need/interest for ahci(4) quirks to be made available. Why? Because camcontrol is for CAM. ahci(4) is not part of CAM. The last place I'd look for poking at AHCI (as in *actual AHCI*) is camcontrol. This is one of the reasons sysctl exists -- it's a sort of covers everything tree, on a per-device basis. Just on this point, these quirks aren't actually quirks of ahci(4) are they? They are quirks of the disks that are attached to ahci(4), and presumably should apply regardless of whether the disk in question is hooked up to ahci(4), siis(4) or even mps(4). To my mind, this means the quirks should belong to da(4), or at the very least ada(4). ada(4) and da(4) are both manipulated by CAM, so having this in camcontrol seems logical to me. To clarify, my mind is completely oblivious of how all this is implemented in software, so perhaps my mind needs to be changed rather than the code! +1 for sysctl. If you want camcontrol to handle it, then have it view/set the sysctl. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless mouse on 9.1
On 4/21/2013 7:04 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote: the M570? I have it too. As it was my first wireless and they do not sell the wired anymore, I worried about battery life time. It was one year for the first battery. The trackman was running on 8.2 and is now running on 10 without any problems too. Erich Yes. It is my second wireless trackman, and my fourth trackman. The first one I had many years ago, kept it for almost 4 years, left mouse button stopped clicking, Logitech sent me a replacement with a wheel, since they'd stopped making the original. I lost that one in a hurricane. About 4 years ago, I bought my first wireless one. About 2 years ago the receiver simply died. Logitech sent me the m570 as a replacement. Yea.. I've been happy with Logitech. I didn't even pay for shipping, didn't have to send the old ones back. I was told Throw em away, sell em at a yard sale, we don't want them back... -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: wireless mouse on 9.1
On 4/21/2013 11:05 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: I had usb switch to share keyboard and mouse for two nodes, of which freebsd worked flawlessly, but openbsd disconnected quite often and made a lot of antics in X. After all, I dismembered the configuration and now I have 2 kb-s and 2 mice. A lot of wires on the table. The plan would be to get not too expensive wireless mouse for freebsd node. Reading forums I found a lot of people having problem with those kind of mice. Could someone recommend one what is known to work on branch 9? For some reason I prefer logitech. And I assume that usb dongle works on hardware level and does not need anything to work? Best regards I have a Logitech Trackman wireless trackball. works perfectly. As does my daughter's wireless mouse. Also logitech. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildkernel error ...
Waste of time.. unless the OP has enabled CLANG_AS_CC then clang is not being called here.. cc is NOT clang unless CLANG_AS_CC is set. It makes no sense to just throw crazy ideas like this onto a mailing list, especially when you haven't even yet 'verified' the claim yourself. Good lord.. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildkernel error ...
And, just for the record, there are QUITE A FEW changes between 8.x and 9.x other than adding clang as an optional compiler which, in case you didn't realize.. is an OPTIONAL compiler in the 9.x series. Do not build it, if you wish, but when it's not being used to compile something, it cannot be blamed for something being broken. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: buildworld with clang breaks because no cc
On 11/23/2012 4:03 PM, Beeblebrox wrote:
I went ahead and hacked gnu/lib/Makefile and changed to:
if ${MK_CXX} != no
#SUBDIR+= libstdc++ libsupc++
.endif
I then restarted buildworld. Next stop, new error:
clang -m32 -march=k8 -DCOMPAT_32BIT -isystem
/usr/obj/asp/src/lib32/usr/include/ -L/usr/obj/asp/src/lib32/usr/lib32
-B/usr/obj/asp/src/lib32/usr/lib32 -fpic -DPIC -O2 -pipe -DNDEBUG
-std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wno-pointer-sign
-Wno-empty-body -Wno-string-plus-int -Wno-tautological-compare
-Wno-unused-value -Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-unused-function
-Wno-conversion -Wno-switch -Wno-switch-enum -Wno-parentheses -c
/asp/src/lib/libncp/ipx.c -o ipx.So
building shared library libncp.so.4
/usr/obj/asp/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: creating a DT_TEXTREL in a shared
object.
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see
invocation)
ls /usr/obj/asp/src/lib/libncp shows libncp.so.4 and symlink libncp.so
--
You've already been told that WITHOUT_GCC is currently unsupported.
Unsupported means.. we won't help you fix it when it breaks. Either
take that option out.. or quit bugging us about it. The REASON it is
unsupported is because it doesn't work. If you want to fix it, have at
it, but no need to keep spamming the mailing list hoping to get help
doing something that is unsupported.
Chuck
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Re: freebsd-update and sources of 9.1-RC3
On Tuesday, November 06, 2012 09:27:17 AM Bas Smeelen wrote: Me too. With subversion you get about 14 extra dependencies and it is not really lightweight like csup. csup will be available for the STABLE branches in the future but for how long? I'd wager that it won't be long before someone codes an extremely lightweight anon-only svnup binary that can read from an SVN server, similar to how CVSup and then csup was spawned from CVS. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: agp in kernel
On Monday, November 05, 2012 04:00:58 PM Zoran Kolic wrote: After several years I replaced desktop and laptop and wait for release to start fresh. On desktop I put nvidia gt520. Forums say nvidia prop driver dislikes agp op- tion in kernel and recommend removing it. Laptop is sandy bridge with hd3000 integrated. Would I trigger something if I delete agp from conf file in both cases? Another issue bothers me also. RC version of amdtemp failed to read temperatures on 8120. What version will be included in release? Some months ago there was a post of people taking source from current and compiling mo- dule. It worked on 8 core bulldozer. To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I am using latest nvidia-driver, and GENERIC 9.1-RC3, which has agp in the kernel, and have no issues.. I don't have an FX- cpu, so can't speak to the 2nd part of your post. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CPU Competition Issue
On 10/29/2012 08:33 PM, Steven Nikkel wrote: I'm running a long duration CPU-centric process that will gobble up all available CPU time. I have it set to run at nice +20. While it's running I've noticed other processes have a hard time getting CPU time and run their activites very slowly. The processes I've noticed issues with are IO involved, but they don't appear to be IO blocked as they run dramatically faster and use much more CPU time when the CPU intensive process is not running. I haven't noticed issues with other processes, but I haven't been looking. If I push my CPU intensive process into idle priority 1, all the other processes return to their normal behaviour as if it's not running. This seems to be a specific behaviour on this one machine running 9.0-RELEASE-p4 on an Atom 330 dual core. I've tried with and without hyperthreading enabled with no noticeable change in behaviour. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I will likely irritate some people, but you could try the 4BSD scheduler, see if that gives you better results. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1-RC2 - could it be that the installer does not write the MBR?
On 10/19/2012 1:32 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Guys/girls/etc, I do suggest that someone actually spends some time coming up with a table of what the current state is, what we could do, what would happen if we did that. Right now there's a lot of possibilities (new drive, drive with windows, drive with linux, drive with linux/windows, drive with legacy freebsd MBR, etc) and as an outsider trying to figure out what is actually the right sounding behaviour, it's difficult for me to sit down and digest all these emails that chip away at a bit of the problem at a time. So if you'd like to see this fixed, I really do suggest that one of you dumps some time into coming up with a basic table like I said above, work with others who can correct/flesh out the various options to take into account, and then we can come up with a real solution. Then 9.1 can go out the door. Adrian In my opinion, I think that the installer should be able to determine whether or not there is an existing partition table, either MBR or GPT, and at that point, ask the user about replacing MBR. But if there is no existing partition map on the drive, then there is no need for prompting about MBR over-writing. Basically: detect if map exists, if not, proceed as usual, if part-table/map is detected, prompt user Existing partitions detected, Should we replace any existing MBR boot code? Only advanced users who know what they're doing should say No here, as this could leave you with an unbootable system: Yes/No (Recommended: Yes) -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1-RC2 - could it be that the installer does not write the MBR?
On 10/18/2012 11:05 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote: Such question does not make sense if the disk is GPT partitioned which is the default now. The boot loader is installed on a separate freebsd-boot partition and the MBR of the disk contains a special protective MBR. And what is supposed to happen if the disk has an existing MBR and existing partitions? Besides which.. Do you want FreeBSD to overwrite the MBR? Thus erasing grub when someone is attempting to install FreeBSD alongside Linux? If you do not want GRUB, you must remove GRUB and revert to a proper MBR. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fwd: Re: 9.1-RC2 - could it be that the installer does not write the MBR?
On 10/18/2012 11:05 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote: Such question does not make sense if the disk is GPT partitioned which is the default now. The boot loader is installed on a separate freebsd-boot partition and the MBR of the disk contains a special protective MBR. And what is supposed to happen if the disk has an existing MBR and existing partitions? With a -proper- existing MBR, it doesn't matter, since it will still pass boot off to the proper partition. But when you install an MBR partition manager that overrides the standard MBR code, you must also then uninstall it when you want to revert back to an OS that knows how to boot with a normal MBR. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1-RC2 - could it be that the installer does not write the MBR?
On 10/18/12 11:44, Rainer Duffner wrote: Am Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:31:56 -0500 schrieb Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com: On 10/18/2012 11:05 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote: Such question does not make sense if the disk is GPT partitioned which is the default now. The boot loader is installed on a separate freebsd-boot partition and the MBR of the disk contains a special protective MBR. And what is supposed to happen if the disk has an existing MBR and existing partitions? Besides which.. Do you want FreeBSD to overwrite the MBR? Yes. I've long since given up on FreeBSD for workstations - I simply don't have the time to get everything right. Thus erasing grub when someone is attempting to install FreeBSD alongside Linux? How many people actually do that, now that there are so many virtualization-options? If you do not want GRUB, you must remove GRUB and revert to a proper MBR. And how do you remove GRUB? The original OS did no longer boot in my case Do I need to file a PR for this? Simply zero out first few MB of the drive, when you create a new partition map, a new MBR is created. Chuck ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gt520 and 9.1
On 10/04/12 11:07, Zoran Kolic wrote: After years of using nvidia 6200 with nv, I had to move to above mentioned gt520. Fast search shoes I nvidia-driver. Correct? And to change nv in conf file to nvidia with nvidia_load=YES in rc.conf? I wait to install the card till release comes out. Best regards all Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org # portmaster x11/nvidia-driver x11/nvidia-xconfig x11/nvidia-settings Once that is done: # nvidia-xconfig Once that is done, start X. You're done. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gt520 and 9.1
On 10/4/2012 11:21 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: Thanks Chuck! I'd avoid xconfig at all. I was puzzled with need to install prop blob. OK, nothing to stay awaken all night. :) Best regards Zoran ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org No problem. Oh. you -do- still need to manually add nvidia_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf - but the xconfig automatically modifies your xorg.conf (or creates one if it doesnt exist) to use the proper xorg video driver. I've never had a problem with using it, and I've had nvidia for.. ever, basically :) -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to update ports while using pkgng?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Sergey V. Dyatko sergey.dya...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 08:48:09 -0300 Marcelo Gondim gon...@bsdinfo.com.br wrote: Em 15/09/2012 01:41, Mike Manilone escreveu: Hi, I'm using ports with pkgng enabled. But I found that portmaster won't work. Is there any way to update ports? Thanks! Hi, I use portsnap fetch update and portmaster to update my ports. with pkgng ? :/ That is akin to asking How do I start my boat with my car keys? Ports and packages are NOT the same thing. Ports are compiled from source. Packages are precompiled. Pkgng is for packages. not ports. Once the port is compiled, the ports system uses whatever pkg manager you've chosen, to install it. However, portmaster doesn't -just- use the ports system. It also tries to pre-determine the dependencies, which is why it needs be pkgng-aware. Chuck ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OpenSSL from Ports
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:01:23 +0200 Beat Siegenthaler beat.siegentha...@beatsnet.com wrote: It seems to be important to know, what build from port means. There is still some tweaking necessary. thanks ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Is it possible that openssl in base is just left over from the previous world? I don't think build from ports entails removing something from the disk, just that it isn't rebuilt when buildworld is issued. -- Chuck Burns brea...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
