Horrible console fonts in 11.0 stable
What is with the horrible console fonts in 11.0 stable? I have tried them all and they are each more hiddeous than the other. Is there anyway to get the VGA fonts back. I never want any characters outside of Latin I. Text programs are the only reason I use FreeBSD (it sure is not for the pathetic X.org). How can anyone work with the horrible text fonts which I suspect are some horrible raster fonts which reset video every time I switch virtual terms? -- Lars Eighner stableu...@larseighner.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Can I get an ISO-8859-1 system back
I upgraded from 9.? to 10.2. I used a custom kernel to avoid vt and raster fonts in sc. I updated as many ports as would build. Now I cannot find an editor that will display my files with accent characters correctly. I know the files are still iso-8859-1 because they are the same size they were and when I cat them, they have the right characters in them. This also shows that my term (cons25l1) can display the characters correctly. But joe, joe2, ee, and pico-alpine seem to convert them to some kind of UTF mess, with two bytes which display as grey blocks. I have tried using LC_ALL and LANG as en_US.iso-8859-1 in .login_conf, and unsetting them, I have tried several screen maps. How far back do I have to downgrade to eliminate UTF from my system entirely? I don't care if I can't run a gui. I just want an editor that will open iso-8859-1 as iso-8859-1 and not any 2-byte whatever, and will display accented characters correctly, as cat does. I will never want to use sanskrit or Chinese characters. I just want Western European characters and I do not want to waste two bytes on them. I want to use the VGA characters, which the experiment with cat demonstrates are on my video card and do work. I do not want unreadable raster fonts. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD?
On Wed, 30 May 2012, David Chisnall wrote: Hi Everyone, I came to FreeBSD nearly 20 years ago because it had text-mode (aka command line, console, etc.) apps and I wanted to avoid GUIs for applications that are not essentially graphic in nature. The ability to switch for applications essentially graphic (paint, image manipulation, etc.) and back for everything else (writing) without rebooting was very attractive. There is not any graphics font that can put 2000 characters (80x25) on one screen legibly - and that has not changed. The native editors on BSD (vi, emacs) are pretty horrible -- imagine the Frankenstein that thought I'll just write an editor in Lisp! But once I discovered Joe, it was smooth sailing. There is no GUI file manager as good as lynx ./ . This is still why I use FreeBSD. I tried linuxes, but found keyboard mapping really opaque. Now, I won't use linuxes because they have abandoned text-mode for rasterized text -- which is just as horrible as GUIs -- and the linux distributions just assume you are trying to run Gnome, completely ignoring formerly text-mode, now rasterized applications. Unfortunately FreeBSD seems to be headed this way and I will have to hop off the upgrade cycle at some version and hope that I die before it becomes orphaned. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Bring sio up to 8+
It seems increasing unlikely that uart will ever support the only internal hardware modem recently available in the US (PR kern/155196), so what are the chances of sio (which works in 7.x reasonably well and better with a one-line hack) being brought forward? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Why is sio.c still broken?
I was about to trash a modem because the HDLC and buffer overflows were grinding it to halt --- or just about. I switch slots, changed the modem out with and old 28.8, and so forth. Eventually I discovered some really old stuff about sio.c which suggested this: cp4ticks = speed / 10 / hz * 4; be changed to this. cp4ticks = speed / 10 / hz * 40; and everything worked like a charm So I am wondering why this hasn't been changed since it seems to be necessary for proper operation of just about the only non-winmodem available. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sio.c still broken?
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:12:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner stableu...@larseighner.com Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org I was about to trash a modem because the HDLC and buffer overflows were grinding it to halt --- or just about. I switch slots, changed the modem out with and old 28.8, and so forth. Eventually I discovered some really old stuff about sio.c which suggested this: cp4ticks = speed / 10 / hz * 4; be changed to this. cp4ticks = speed / 10 / hz * 40; and everything worked like a charm So I am wondering why this hasn't been changed since it seems to be necessary for proper operation of just about the only non-winmodem available. Probably because sio is about to be dropped and no one has given it much attention of late. It's probably best to convert to use of uart which is the new serial port driver and will be the only one in V8 which is in code freeze and should be out in two or three months. Let the I coulda had a V8 puns and bad jokes begin! Any idea where there is info on how to do this? Nothing in man uart is helpful to me, and if it is the handbook, I can't find it. I found a few things about modems and ttys, but I want it for ppp. Since it seems to work now, perhaps I better stop upgrading. After all, umass upgrades may my camera useless (except as a way to panic the system. Some upgrade or another made the scanner and card-reading functions on my printer useless. I can't afford to up to the point that my modem doesn't work. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: g_vfs_done():da3s1a[READ(offset=81064794762854400, length=8192)]error = 5
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, d_elbracht wrote: we are trying to diagnose errors seen on 6.2, SMP, amd64, cvsup'ed of 2007-10-09 Mainboard is a Tyan Thunder h2000M (S3992-E) with 16 GB RAM and 2 x Opteron 2216, da3 is on a 3ware 9550-12 we are seeing this error: g_vfs_done():da3s1a[READ(offset=81064794762854400, length=8192)]error = 5 on a 12 GB Hyperdrive I trashed a perfectly disk drive before learning that there is a serious bug in g_vfs. Apparently it is one of those things which shows up in some configurations and not others. Although I am told they are unable to isolate the problem, all the reports I've seen were from people using AMD systems. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File system is Full
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, Khaled Moussa wrote: My / slice got full and I wonder if there might be any way increasing size through free space on HD? Yes, there is, and I see that someone has already replied calling your attention to growfs. However, there is almost certainly something wrong if / gets full. You should find out what is filling / before you undertake any remedy. Some possible causes: (Recently discussed) dumping to a mount point when in fact the dump device is not mounted. /tmp not a separate file system and something using too much /tmp Running as root, instead of as an ordinary user, or not purging root's old mail (much of which are routine reports which are seldom good for anything after a day or two) In freebsd /home should be a symbolic link to /usr/home. User directories should be in /usr/home. There just should not be much in / to get bigger except /root, and you should not be keeping much of anything in /root. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing Console Resolution - Vidcontrol
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Schiz0 wrote: Hey, I'm wondering how you can increase the resolution of the console in FreeBSD stable. I have read the man page on vidcontrol and googled around a bit, but I'm still confused about what to do. I'm currently running FreeBSD in VMWare on a windows machine (But that'll change as soon as I learn enough to put it up my server, which currently runs linux). I'd like to have something like 1024x768 resolution or so. Also, the man pages mention something about VESA modules. What exactly is this, and do I need it? My kernel is currently compiled without support for it. Would I need to recompile my kernel again? You're question does not quite make sense. Console is more or less the FreeBSD word for boss text-mode terminal. It has nothing to do with what a terminal window might look like in a GUI such as Windows or X. The first question is what *text* modes does your hardware support. I don't know of video hardware that supports 1024x768 raster text. If your hardware supports it and you want the VESA modes, you can compile VESA support into the kernel (which you should do if you use it just about all the time) or it can be load dynamically (see man 4 vga). Ditto for 90 column VGA. Most of the console modes are regular vga text modes and they are usually expressed in terms of lines(high) x columns(wide), for example the standard 25x80. I suspect you do not really want a console resolution of 1024x768 (px). I suspect you want 1024x758 in a GUI, in which case you need to be researching X as vidcontrol has nothing to do with that. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is Makefile.inc1 in 6 wrong?
It appears to me that either I have a wrong version of awk or
this Makefile.inc1 is wrong:
#
# $FreeBSD: src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.499.2.11 2006/04/04 14:24:03 glebius Exp $
#
Snippage
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX?= /usr/obj
.if !defined(OSRELDATE)
.if exists(/usr/include/osreldate.h)
OSRELDATE!= awk '/^\#define[[:space:]]*__FreeBSD_version/ { print $$3 }' \
/usr/include/osreldate.h
.else
OSRELDATE= 0
In particular with the double dollar sign in the awk statement,
I get no return, therefore OSRELDATE gets set to 0. The awk
statement also fails from the command line. But if I use only
one $, the awk statement succeeds.
Is there a reason for the double dollar sign? Is something
wrong with my awk? Or is the Makefile.inc1 wrong? I can't seem
to find a switch to get awk to return its version number.
Here is /usr/include/osreldate.h
/*-
* Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
* All rights reserved.
*
snippage
* SUCH DAMAGE.
*
*/
#ifdef _KERNEL
#error osreldate.h cannot be used in the kernel, use sys/param.h
#else
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version 504105
#endif
Here are the two awk statements run in an editor shell:
[1;42;37mTue Apr 04 16:09:48 bash3.1:ttyp0:eighner
goodwill~$[0mawk '/^\#define __FreeBSD_version/ {print $$3}'
/usr/include/osne __FreeBSD_version/ {print $$3}' /usr/include/osreldate.h
[1;42;37mTue Apr 04 16:11:08 bash3.1:ttyp0:eighner
goodwill~$[0mawk '/^\#define __FreeBSD_version/ {print $3}'
/usr/include/osrne __FreeBSD_version/ {print $3}' /usr/include/osreldate.h
504105
[1;42;37mTue Apr 04 16:12:12 bash3.1:ttyp0:eighner
goodwill~$[0mexit
exit
In otherwords, $$= no return, $= right answer.
Should I upgrade my awk in some way? Or should I hope the
maintainer will fix the Makefile?
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Re: Is Makefile.inc1 in 6 wrong?
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 05:14 pm, Lars Eighner wrote:
It appears to me that either I have a wrong version of awk or
this Makefile.inc1 is wrong:
#
# $FreeBSD: src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.499.2.11 2006/04/04 14:24:03
glebius Exp $ #
Snippage
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX?= /usr/obj
.if !defined(OSRELDATE)
.if exists(/usr/include/osreldate.h)
OSRELDATE!= awk '/^\#define[[:space:]]*__FreeBSD_version/ { print
$$3 }' \ /usr/include/osreldate.h
.else
OSRELDATE= 0
In particular with the double dollar sign in the awk statement,
I get no return, therefore OSRELDATE gets set to 0. The awk
statement also fails from the command line. But if I use only
one $, the awk statement succeeds.
Is there a reason for the double dollar sign?
Yes. See make(1):
$ A single dollar sign `$', i.e. `$$' expands to a single dollar
sign.
Then why does it get the wrong answer? Also is there a
difference when the accent mark is used in front instead of a
real single quote?
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Re: Is Makefile.inc1 in 6 wrong?
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 05:32 pm, Lars Eighner wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 05:14 pm, Lars Eighner wrote:
It appears to me that either I have a wrong version of awk or
this Makefile.inc1 is wrong:
#
# $FreeBSD: src/Makefile.inc1,v 1.499.2.11 2006/04/04 14:24:03
glebius Exp $ #
Snippage
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX?= /usr/obj
.if !defined(OSRELDATE)
.if exists(/usr/include/osreldate.h)
OSRELDATE!= awk '/^\#define[[:space:]]*__FreeBSD_version/ {
print $$3 }' \ /usr/include/osreldate.h
.else
OSRELDATE= 0
In particular with the double dollar sign in the awk statement,
I get no return, therefore OSRELDATE gets set to 0. The awk
statement also fails from the command line. But if I use only
one $, the awk statement succeeds.
Is there a reason for the double dollar sign?
Yes. See make(1):
$ A single dollar sign `$', i.e. `$$' expands to a single
dollar sign.
I think this is wrong for a SINGLE QUOTED argument to be passed
to awk. The Makefile is wrong. I am right.
Then why does it get the wrong answer?
Because you ran it from command line. ;-) You can copy and paste the
same lines to *Makefile* like this:
.if !defined(OSRELDATE)
.if exists(/usr/include/osreldate.h)
OSRELDATE!= awk '/^\#define[[:space:]]*__FreeBSD_version/ { print $$3 }' \
/usr/include/osreldate.h
.else
OSRELDATE= 0
.endif
.endif
all:
@echo reldate = ${OSRELDATE}
and run make. You will see something like this (depending on your
header file):
%make
reldate = 600034
But it doesn't
[1;42;37mTue Apr 04 17:11:38 bash3.1:ttyp0:eighner
goodwill~$[0mmake -V OSRELDATE -f /usr/src/Makefile.inc1
0
[1;42;37mTue Apr 04 17:12:25 bash3.1:ttyp0:eighner
goodwill~$[0mexit
exit
where /usr/include/osreldate.h =
/*-
* Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
* All rights reserved.
snippage
* SUCH DAMAGE.
*
*/
#ifdef _KERNEL
#error osreldate.h cannot be used in the kernel, use sys/param.h
#else
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version 504105
#endif
Also is there a difference when the accent mark is used in front
instead of a real single quote?
Where do you see it?
Where you wrote:
$ A single dollar sign `$', i.e. `$$' expands to a single
dollar sign.
And also in man make. The ` is an accent key, not a quote key.
Yes, they are aka backticks and do mean something when they are
paired, but `something' is nonsense so far as I can tell.
Why would make tamper with anything in single quotes that is
passed to a command? How do you write an argument for a command
so that make won't tamper with it? What would double quoting
the argument be for?
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Re: Unkillable zombie sshd-s?
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Ivan Voras wrote: Mark Andrews wrote: Is there a way to find out what has happened and why does the situation occur? (I can't reboot the server for testing) You can't kill them because they are already dead. They are just holding state so that the parent process can know how they died. Once the parent process wait()'s on them (or the parent dies) they will disappear. I knew that (except the bit that they're ukillable by design :) ), but I was hoping it's a known ssh problem - this is the first time I saw sshd processes as zombies (and it seems they've been zombies for a long time, so parents are probably in error). Can I find out what their parent processes are? (something like tree-shaped ps?) No tree, but try ps -axl. PPID = parent process ID -- Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't build STABLE from 5.2.1
/usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS=-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/src/share/mk /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= BOOTSTRAPPING=0 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS bootstrap-tools === games/fortune/strfile /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a-D__FBSDID=__RCSID -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c echo strfile: /usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib/libegacy.a .depend cc -O -pipe -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c cc -O -pipe -D__FBSDID=__RCSID -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -static -L/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -o strfile strfile.o -legacy /usr/lib/crt1.o: In function `_start': /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x64): undefined reference to `_init_tls' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opera for FreeBSD
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Scott Lambert wrote: It has a lot of bugs. I registered it anyway. Opera will fix the bugs if they make money. We need to vote with our wallets. I'm sick and tired of these 40MB gzipped source downloads for a fricking web browser. What Opera did you install? The one in ports is a piece of bloatware that loads slower than Netscape. -- Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 600 E 53RD ST APT 119 AUSTIN TX 78751 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Installworld fails: unknown groups games
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Scott Mitchell wrote: On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 10:08:14PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: I searched UPDATING for games but found no hint of this. Although the makefile says to run mergemaster -p befor installing world, mergemaster denied all knowledge of a -p switch. Did it mention something about compiling and installing mergemaster first? your version is prob ably old and doesn't know about p, so you'll have to find mergemaster in /usr/src and run make make install then you should be able to use -p if you don't have a new mergemastger already. DON'T FOLLOW THIS ADVICE. Follow the more precise instuctions in UPDATING. It wasn't meant as precise advice, just something else to find in updating! From /usr/src/UPDATING: 20020404: Due to the import of sendmail 8.12.2 (see 20020325 entry), a new user and group are required in order for sendmail to run as a set-group-ID binary. A 'make installworld' will use the new user and group to set the owner and group of /var/spool/clientmqueue and will fail if the new user and group do not exist. The 'smmsp' user and group must be merged from src/etc/group and src/etc/master.passwd before using 'make installworld'. 'mergemaster -p' will do this. You may need to install mergemaster before this will work if you are updating from a very old version of stable. This can be done with: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster; make all install [clean] So David's advice looks about right to me. Lars, were you _really_ updating from 3.3 straight to 4.6? No. It was a typo. 4.4 - 4.6. I wouldn't dream of updating across a major version number without sacrificing a goat first. That's got to be asking for trouble. I'd have spent about a day going through UPDATING and the list archives before embarking on anything like that, and probably done it in at least two steps 3.3 - 4.0 - 4.6. You're a brave man...I'm quite surprised this was the only problem you had! BTW, the third step in the make world procedure described in the Handbook explicitly tells you to check the contents of etc/group, and how to use mergemaster -p from an older version. That's another thing. I can't get the handbook to make. I upgraded all kinds of text handling ports to get the handbook to make for 4.4, but evidently that is all broken now. -- Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 600 E 53RD ST APT 119 AUSTIN TX 78751 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: We are exporting quality Hanger for cloth, pants
In our last episode, [EMAIL PROTECTED], the lovely and talented Josef Karthauser On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:37:40PM +1000, xlr82xs wrote: umm wtf is this doing on the freebsd-stable mailing list ? sorry for the implied language, and lack of written manner, but this came in and confused the hell out of me.. It's been widespread spammed across a whole chunk of the net - it's not just _ALL_ the freebsd lists it's gone to :). Okay, who sold spamming technology to the Red Chinese? I think the FBI needs to lock up Mr. Steve in Phoenix until this is thoroughly investigated. -- Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.io.com/~eighner/ Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
