Re: WD Advanced Format: do I need to do something special?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 01:47:26AM -0700, Yuri wrote: WD has sectors of the size 4kB in their latest hard drives, which is different from the traditional 512B. http://www.wdc.com/advformat http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5655 These articles assert that something special should be done in OS to enable high performance of such drives. For ex. WD recommends to install some latest drivers of particular version. But what about FreeBSD? Should it be configured in some special way too for these drive to perform well? Is it aware of 4kB sector size? I own that (I'm running 8-STABLE): ada0 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 ada0: WDC WD10EARS-00Y5B1 80.00A80 ATA-8 SATA 2.x device ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers (SATA 2.x, UDMA6, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: Command Queueing enabled ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) which has 4kB sectors but says 512 byte sectors :) I use the whole disk for the FreeBSD slice, I aligned all partitions on a multiple of 8 sectors (512*8=4096). By default fdisk(8) uses a 63 sectors default offset: *** Working on device /dev/ada0 *** parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1938021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1938021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 63, size 1953525105 (953869 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: UNUSED The data for partition 3 is: UNUSED The data for partition 4 is: UNUSED Look at start 63 statement. Instead of fixing fdisk(8) behavior, I just correctly edited my bsdlabel(8) table: # /dev/ada0s1: 8 partitions: # size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a:4194304 174.2BSD0 0 0 b:83886084194321 swap c: 1953525105 0unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit d: 16777216 125829294.2BSD0 0 0 e: 1924163584 293601454.2BSD0 0 0 The important part is the offset 17 to correct the fdisk(8) offset (16+1 to align the previous 63). The remaining offsets are calculted from the size I gave for the partitions (in MB, which can be divided by 8). Then I used newfs(8) with the option -f 4096. There's another painful issue with this disk: the automatic head-parking after few seconds. I disabled it (with wdidle3) cause after 2 months of use, I was at more than 35000 head-parkings... -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: status of flash9/flash10 support in RELENG_7 ?
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:52:10AM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:14:01 +0200 Harald Weis wrote: Portmaster is unable to fetch install_flash_player_9.tar.gz and I Anyway it's not a portmaster... cannot find the file manually. Seems to have disappeared from earth. Something (system, ports, network or else) is broken: - tba% LANG=C date Fri Aug 7 02:50:06 MSD 2009 tba% fetch http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/installers/current/9/install_flash_player_9.tar.gz install_flash_player_9.tar.gz 100% of 2986 kB 1542 kBps - To add something to Boris' words, the methods given in the Handbook are reliable and tested methods (many times on various systems). If they do not work, it's either a port problem (vulnerabilities, ports tree, etc.) or a system problem. Regarding the distfile, it seems they changed the file: = Attempting to fetch from http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/installers/current/9/. fetch: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/installers/current/9/install_flash_player_9.tar.gz: size mismatch: expected 3057882, actual 3057910 -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: status of flash9/flash10 support in RELENG_7 ?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 08:20:09AM +0200, barbara wrote: An example of the URLs that is giving me problems is the following http://tv.repubblica.it/copertina/massa-colpito-da-un-detrito/35446?video (basically all videos from that site cause the same problem). I would be grateful if you cold check it. The video looks fine here, even if I'm getting a warning about the flash version. http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2741/screenshotmassacolpitod.png I've found that on 7, the better combination for me is linux-flashplugin9, linux_base-fc4 and compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2. Same here: the video plays fine on 7.2-S with linux_base-fc4 and linux-flashplugin9 On CURRENT, using linux_base-f10, I get much more stuck process, while on 7 it barely happens. On 8-BETA2 with linux_base-f10 and linux-f10-flashplugin10 that video makes npviewer coredumping. -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: status of flash9/flash10 support in RELENG_7 ?
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 06:15:22PM +0200, barbara wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 10:32 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 08:20:09AM +0200, barbara wrote: An example of the URLs that is giving me problems is the following http://tv.repubblica.it/copertina/massa-colpito-da-un-detrito/35446?video (basically all videos from that site cause the same problem). I would be grateful if you cold check it. The video looks fine here, even if I'm getting a warning about the flash version. http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2741/screenshotmassacolpitod.png I've found that on 7, the better combination for me is linux-flashplugin9, linux_base-fc4 and compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2. Same here: the video plays fine on 7.2-S with linux_base-fc4 and linux-flashplugin9 On CURRENT, using linux_base-f10, I get much more stuck process, while on 7 it barely happens. On 8-BETA2 with linux_base-f10 and linux-f10-flashplugin10 that video makes npviewer coredumping. This video played on my 8-BETA2 (r195818, SMP, i386) with linux_base-f10 and linux-f10-flashplugin10 without dumping core. Was your BETA2 before or after library version bump and, if latter, did you rebuild all your ports? I've cvsupped and rebuilt my system on Jul. 23 and rebuilt all my ports. linux-f10-flashplugin10 is dumping core or not working for me too. BTW, why nspluginwrapper doesn't find the plugin? I assume it's cause nothing is installed under /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ so you need to do a ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so \ /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ just before the nspluginwrapper -v -a -i as I mentioned it in the Handbook. Regarding my BETA2, I mostly use the 'current' packages and some may come from before the bump, but firefox was built on friday. I should try to rebuild everything... however this box is really slow... -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: status of flash9/flash10 support in RELENG_7 ?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:35:00AM +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: Does anyone know what is the status of flash9 or flash10 in RELENG_7 ? Following the thread of a couple of months ago, i tried to: - remove all linux-* ports - set the following in /etc/make.conf OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8 - set the following in /etc/sysctl.conf compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 - set the following in /etc/fstab linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 - reinstall linux_base-f8-8_11 - reinstall linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 (which in turn brings in the relevant linux-f8-* ports) - also install nspluginwrapper and create a firefox plugin - upgrade firefox to firefox-3.5,1 (native), just in case - run firefox with limit stacksize 4megabytes (or variants) as recommended to avoid npviewer growing/not dying This was done on 3 different machines (one laptop with a centrino, 2 desktops with AMD X2 dual core running in i386 mode) with mixed [in]success. On one machine thing started working well, but on the other two they did not (the various packages were of course slightly disaligned) and while trying to replicate the configuration i also broke the good one without figuring out why. Symptoms are that on certain sites or actions (e.g. switch to full screen on youtube videos) i get firefox freezing like this 22381 luigi 13 960 82580K 57484K ucond 1 0:00 0.20% firefox-bin 22413 luigi 1 970 72920K 33448K futex 1 0:00 0.20% npviewer.bin 22414 luigi 1 970 72920K 33448K futex 1 0:00 0.20% npviewer.bin and recovering control (but no video) after 10+seconds I also get a lot of the following weak_unref warnings with various addresses (firefox-bin:22381): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_weak_unref: couldn't find weak ref 0x297ba9f0(0x2a10d110) (but not sure how related is this, because it happens even without a flash plugin). I have also tried flash9 instead of flash10, o fc10 instead of fc8, all with similar results. Is there a recipe for a working flas9 or flash10 operation ? The Handbook gives a reliable, i.e. reproductible one, recipe: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html 6.2.3 Firefox and Macromedia® Flash Plugin for running Flash 9 under 7.X and with default linux_base. I'm also working on an update for 8.X -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: status of flash9/flash10 support in RELENG_7 ?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 09:38:05AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: Is there a recipe for a working flas9 or flash10 operation ? The Handbook gives a reliable, i.e. reproductible one, recipe: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html 6.2.3 Firefox and Macromedia® Flash Plugin for running Flash 9 under 7.X and with default linux_base. I'm also working on an update for 8.X I just updated the Handbook for 8.X and Flash (I know it wasn't your first question but it may help). -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: status of flash9/flash10 support in RELENG_7 ?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 01:55:25PM +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 09:38:05AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 03:35:00AM +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: The Handbook gives a reliable, i.e. reproductible one, recipe: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html 6.2.3 Firefox and Macromedia? Flash Plugin for running Flash 9 under 7.X and with default linux_base. from what i remember, flash9 with the default linux_base (fc4) did not work for me (though i don't remember the details). Are you positive that it is a working configuration on RELENG_7 ? Yes, I did many installations of Flash9 with fc4 and firefox 2 or 3 on various boxes without any issues. Since it was reproductible, it's the recipe I put in the Handbook. Especially, fc4 does not support skype (except skype1.2, which however does not authenticate anymore), so using fc4 is not an option for me and i suspect desktop users in general. I don't use skype, so I wasn't annoyed. I'm also working on an update for 8.X i see that for 8.x you suggest using fc10, which is also something i tried on RELENG_7 but had similar symptoms. Is there any known reason why HEAD and RELENG_7 should be different in terms of linux_base support ? You should ask this question to bsam (CCed) which is our linux_base expert. The only reason I used in the Handbook fc4 for 7.X and f10 for 8.X it's that they are the linux_base versions used on these respective branches. -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RELENG_7 jerky mouse and skipping sound (still a problem -BETA3)
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 11:33:37PM +0100, Kris Kennaway wrote: Anyone? Time is rapidly running out to get this fixed in time for 7.0-RELEASE, so we need this trace ASAP. http://am-productions.biz/docs/ktr.out.gz Is there a way to export the graph once I'm looking in it in schedgraph.py? The ktr.out is all we need, thanks. Mine http://people.freebsd.org/~blackend/ktr3.out posted a while ago on a non-public list. To sum up the symptoms: important lag with Firefox (and maybe any Gtk based app), so a jerky mouse by mostly a non-responsive Firefox during compilations. -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 extremely slow while compiling other things
On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 11:07:34AM +0800, Yi Wang wrote: Hi, My box is running 7.0-PREREALEASE. When I run more than two building tasks, X11 became extremely slow. The mouse pointer can also hardly move. Running more than two building tasks under 6-stable does not introduce the issues. Does any one know how to solve it? To improve slightly the things: - use UP kernel (i.e. remove SMP and apic lines) - use ULE scheduler This will help a bit but it's not a definitive solution. -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RELENG_7 jerky mouse and skipping sound
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 05:53:47PM +0200, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: Anish Mistry wrote: On Thursday 18 October 2007, Marc Fonvieille wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:28:30PM -0400, Anish Mistry wrote: I just updated to RELENG_7 from 6.2 and I'm running into some really annoying issues with jerky mouse movement and skipping sound. This seems to be similar to: Re: SCHED_4BSD in RELENG_7 disturbs workflow This happens both with 4BSD and ULE. I seems to happen when I'm compiling ports and a new cc/bzip2/sh process fires off (I'm just watching top), I'll get the skip/freezeup. [...] Using ULE and UP kernel (i.e. without SMP etc.) helped a bit the things but it's still very annoying to use firefox during ports build. I see this lag/freeze on all boxes I use with 7.0, but it's true that with a fast machine people can ignore the problem, it's less obvious than with a 1GHz box for example. Yeah, I'm still seeing this behavior. Does anyone have suggestions on debugging? Thanks, I did post the solution in this thread. It has nothing to do with the mouse. -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RELENG_7 jerky mouse and skipping sound
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:28:30PM -0400, Anish Mistry wrote: I just updated to RELENG_7 from 6.2 and I'm running into some really annoying issues with jerky mouse movement and skipping sound. This seems to be similar to: Re: SCHED_4BSD in RELENG_7 disturbs workflow This happens both with 4BSD and ULE. I seems to happen when I'm compiling ports and a new cc/bzip2/sh process fires off (I'm just watching top), I'll get the skip/freezeup. [...] Using ULE and UP kernel (i.e. without SMP etc.) helped a bit the things but it's still very annoying to use firefox during ports build. I see this lag/freeze on all boxes I use with 7.0, but it's true that with a fast machine people can ignore the problem, it's less obvious than with a 1GHz box for example. -- Marc pgpa1lonyUpTU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE and Flash 7 patch
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 08:10:49AM +0900, Norikatsu Shigemura wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:51:07 +0100 Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:11:16 -0600 ejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rtld.c has changed a bit over time so here's a patch against the new file. BTW, what is the reason this hack isn't included in the base kernel / code? I suggested new patch. But no response:-(. SEE ALSO: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2007-January/019360.html Hello Norikatsu, Is it possible to update http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/rtld_dlsym_hack.diff to match 6-STABLE, this would prevent thousand mails about the non-working flash7 plugin? -- Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb to serial
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:33:22AM -0400, David Coder wrote: Is there a generic freebsd driver for usb-to-rs-232 adapters? My Thinkpad (running 6.1-RC) doesn't have a standard db-9 port. uftdi(4) for some USB/RS232 adapters. Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getting handbooks via cvsup?
On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:32:59PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: cvsup file: *default host=cvsup.ro.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix doc-all Run cvsup then: cd /usr/doc/ make FORMATS=html html-split ps pdf install textproc/docproj must be installed if one wants to build the docs. Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: few programs now getting sig 6
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 03:26:50PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Marc Fonvieille wrote: On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 02:39:17PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: This is really weird, I'm getting the same signal 6 things on a -STABLE from yesterday (before I was running a -STABLE from October): pid 84801 (mozilla-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 6 I rebuilt mozilla, but no effect. I should try to revert some changes occured on libpthread/thread/* I tried with a libpthread.so.1 from 3rd Feb (just before some MFCs), this fixed the problem. Run mozilla with -g and repeat the problem. Look at the traceback and if you get a problem with it recursing on a private mutex, then it is a problem with mozilla or a plugin. If your are using linuxplugin and haven't updated that port, you need to rebuild it. I rebuilt all plugins, it did the trick, thanks! Maybe a note in UPDATING may help people. Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: few programs now getting sig 6
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 02:08:11PM +0100, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 12:01:36PM +0100, Ted Lindgreen wrote: Just tried: reinstalling a /usr/lib/libpthread.so.1 build on Feb 12 makes the problem go away (nothing else changed). This commit probably broke it: deischen2005-02-13 18:38:06 UTC FreeBSD src repository Modified files: lib/libpthread/thread thr_attr_init.c thr_init.c thr_private.h thr_stack.c Log: Increase the default stacksizes: 32-bit 64-bit main thread 2MB 4MB other threads 1MB 2MB This is really weird, I'm getting the same signal 6 things on a -STABLE from yesterday (before I was running a -STABLE from October): pid 84801 (mozilla-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 6 I rebuilt mozilla, but no effect. I should try to revert some changes occured on libpthread/thread/* Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: few programs now getting sig 6
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 02:39:17PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: This is really weird, I'm getting the same signal 6 things on a -STABLE from yesterday (before I was running a -STABLE from October): pid 84801 (mozilla-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 6 I rebuilt mozilla, but no effect. I should try to revert some changes occured on libpthread/thread/* I tried with a libpthread.so.1 from 3rd Feb (just before some MFCs), this fixed the problem. Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB scanner not attached when connected after system startup]
On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 04:07:12PM +0100, Harald Weis wrote: In reply to both Marc and Roland, I confirm and say: 1. usbd is really running all the time (usbd_enable=YES being in rc.conf) 2. using the default usbd.conf, which I studied only recently to find out what could be missing. 3. added the following lines to it for testing: device Perfection 1650 scanner devname uscanner[0-9]+ attach sane-find-scanner -q detach sane-find-scanner -q I still haven't got a clue of what other command could be useful here. I think Ialso understood that the proper attachment/detachment function of usbd has nothing to do with those commands. Right or wrong? [...] Do not add anything in /etc/usbd.conf, use the file you can find in /usr/share/examples/etc/usbd.conf Then follow http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/scanners.html that section was written with many scanners for testing purposes, and one of them was a Perfection 1650... Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB scanner not attached when connected after system startup]
On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 04:49:05PM +0100, Harald Weis wrote: My scanner (EPSON PERFECTION 1650) is working alright if it is connected before system startup. But when connected to the running system it doesn't get attached by usbd. I can't find out from Handbook, manpages or mailing lists what could be the reason. I assume you followed the Image Scanner section in the Handbook. Is usbd really running? Are you using the default usbd.conf? Marc ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X installation.
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 10:06:47PM +1100, Bernard FUENTES wrote: Hi Mark, I agree with you. But my initial request related to the fact that I have not found the Select Default Desktop menu (Figure 2-56 in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install- post.html#DEFAULT-DESKTOP) to select Gnome in the 5.3 release (freebsd- stable !!!) Thank you. Actually all X11 configuration and related configurations/installations have been removed from systinstall as of FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE. You should consult the X11 chapter from the Handbook instead. I know that a note should be added in the Installation chapter of the Handbook, I'm currently working on a fix. Marc ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVSup through ssh tunnel
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 09:12:44AM -0700, John Polstra wrote: Do you have a refuse file in one of the following places? /usr/sup/refuse /usr/sup/src-all/refuse /usr/sup/src-all/refuse.cvs:RELENG_4 /usr/sup/refuse contains the following lines: doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1 doc/es_ES.ISO_8859-1 doc/ja_JP.eucJP doc/nl_NL.ISO_8859-1 doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R doc/zh_TW.Big5 /usr/sup/src-all/refuse /usr/sup/src-all/refuse.cvs:RELENG_4 don't exist on the box. Are you sure that the server host you are using is keeping its src-all collection up-to-date? yes, i use it to cvsup my gateway John -- John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] John D. Polstra Co., Inc.Seattle, Washington USA Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence. -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message