7.2-RC2 Install Feedback
Folks, Just FYI-ish, yesterday I made a 7.2-RC2 bootonly CD and successfully installed it on an i386. There was one weirdness with the www packages menu where it wouldn't display the package name properly. It looked like some odd form of line wrapping that started at the right-most column and then was off-by a line such that it (maybe?) overwrote itself on the next line. It looked OK if you scrolled all the way to the bottom and then scrolled back up. Also, I banged my head against problems installing emacs (aborted with error -1), until I finally realized that xemacs-21.4 was already installed. I think there was some form of conflict (?) that prevented two versions from being installed. Seemed odd to me in any event, and not very evident why the (package) install was being rejected. Thanks! jdl ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2-RC2 Install Feedback
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 08:55 -0500, Jon Loeliger wrote: Also, I banged my head against problems installing emacs (aborted with error -1), until I finally realized that xemacs-21.4 was already installed. I think there was some form of conflict (?) that prevented two versions from being installed. Seemed odd to me in any event, and not very evident why the (package) install was being rejected. This basic issue (package conflicts) has been becoming more and more of a problem. It's not likely we can do anything about it this time around but we'll think a bit more about what to include on the media going forwards. I also found Gnome2 and KDE4 are mutually exclusive due to package conflicts, you need to select one or the other. Just so you know - if there are issues with installing things and errors pop up you can often quickly find what the cause of the error was by pressing Alt-F2. You can get back to the primary screen with Alt-F1. -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 7.2-RC2 Install Feedback
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 08:55 -0500, Jon Loeliger wrote: Also, I banged my head against problems installing emacs (aborted with error -1), until I finally realized that xemacs-21.4 was already installed. I think there was some form of conflict (?) that prevented two versions from being installed. Seemed odd to me in any event, and not very evident why the (package) install was being rejected. This basic issue (package conflicts) has been becoming more and more of a problem. It's not likely we can do anything about it this time around but we'll think a bit more about what to include on the media going forwards. I also found Gnome2 and KDE4 are mutually exclusive due to package conflicts, you need to select one or the other. Just so you know - if there are issues with installing things and errors pop up you can often quickly find what the cause of the error was by pressing Alt-F2. You can get back to the primary screen with Alt-F1. -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | In the www.freebsd.org Ports pages , within the descriptions about ports , there is no any information about conflicting packages . In these descriptions , when there is ( are ) conflicted package(s) specifying it with a tag such as Conflicts with : ... would be useful . During installations , or package adds such conflicting packages may be avoided . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2-RC2 Install Feedback
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.eduwrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 08:55 -0500, Jon Loeliger wrote: This basic issue (package conflicts) has been becoming more and more of a problem. It's not likely we can do anything about it this time around but we'll think a bit more about what to include on the media going forwards. I also found Gnome2 and KDE4 are mutually exclusive due to package conflicts, you need to select one or the other. -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | (1) I am using always Gnome in FreeBSD ( because KDE in 7.0 was opening forms of executables just like X , and for multiple docked forms this was very annoying) . During installations , I am selecting both Gnome and KDE because some packages are inserted only into KDE menus . If the KDE is not selected , those packages are not available in Gnome menus , and they should be inserted into Gnome menus one by one ( for me , this is a difficult task , because it requires to find proper executable to insert it into menu ) . Within package installation logic , checking not only KDE or Gnome presence but both will eliminate requirement of KDE for Gnome because package executable names will appear also in Gnome menus . (2) In /etc/rc.conf , it is possible to specify gnome_enable , but for KDE , there is no such possibility ( with respect to my present knowledge , but I checked Handbook just now , there is no such a definition ) . Making available KDE_enable in /etc/rc.conf would be useful , also . The users easily may select any of them . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2-RC2 Install Feedback
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 02:50:22PM -0400, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: (1) I am using always Gnome in FreeBSD ( because KDE in 7.0 was opening forms of executables just like X , and for multiple docked forms this was very annoying) . During installations , I am selecting both Gnome and KDE because some packages are inserted only into KDE menus . If the KDE is not selected , those packages are not available in Gnome menus , and they should be inserted into Gnome menus one by one ( for me , this is a difficult task , because it requires to find proper executable to insert it into menu ) . IMHO, that would be a bug in those packages. Desktop files should be installed in /usr/local/share/applications (or similar) and contain a Categories field to determine where to place them in the menu. The OnlyShowIn and NotShowIn fields are available for desktop files specific to certain desktop environments. Many ports install desktop files to /usr/local/share/applnk (KDE) or /usr/local/share/gnome/apps (GNOME); if these files contain Categories it should be safe to move them to the new location. Many upstreams are already following this new standard, and some ports override the upstream build system's code to install to the new location with an installation to the old location. A user-level workaround is to make symlinks to the necessary desktop files in $HOME/.local/share/applications/; while it is annoying to have to do this, it is much easier than adding menu entries manually. XFCE also needs the desktop files in the new location. See http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/ for more information. -- Jilles Tjoelker ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
