Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-23 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday 20 January 2008 09:50:36 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 10:35:21AM +0100, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote:
  Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  You'd be best off with RELENG_7 and not 6.3, but yes, the controller in
  question should work on RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_3.
 
  Very well, seems like I am going to give RELENG_7 a try then.
  Thanks to everyone who replied!
 
 Another user just posted to -stable about problems with these Dell
 machines and PERC6.  I'm not sure if you're subscribed to -stable or
 not, so here's the thread:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039791.html

The problem folks are having are with using volumes greater than 1 TB.  The
BSD label cannot handle such large disks.  Instead, if you are just using
the disk for data you can newfs /dev/mfid1 directly and use it as a
filesystem, or if you need to partition the disk you can use gpt(8) to do
so.  If you need to boot from such a large disk you will need to use the
GPT boot code in HEAD (I will backport it to 6.x and 7.x soon).  I've
successfully used it to boot on 2 TB mfi(4) volumes.  Unfortunately
sysinstall doesn't support GPT at all, only the older MBR + BSD label
method.

Note that this problem has nothing to do with mfi(4) at all, but it is a
limitation of the BSD label + MBR that applies to any volume = 2 TB.

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Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-23 Thread Aldas Nabazas
On Jan 23, 2008 1:58 PM, John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 20 January 2008 09:50:36 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 10:35:21AM +0100, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote:
   Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
   You'd be best off with RELENG_7 and not 6.3, but yes, the controller
 in
   question should work on RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_3.
  
   Very well, seems like I am going to give RELENG_7 a try then.
   Thanks to everyone who replied!
 
  Another user just posted to -stable about problems with these Dell
  machines and PERC6.  I'm not sure if you're subscribed to -stable or
  not, so here's the thread:
 
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039791.html

 The problem folks are having are with using volumes greater than 1 TB.
  The
 BSD label cannot handle such large disks.  Instead, if you are just using
 the disk for data you can newfs /dev/mfid1 directly and use it as a
 filesystem, or if you need to partition the disk you can use gpt(8) to do
 so.  If you need to boot from such a large disk you will need to use the
 GPT boot code in HEAD (I will backport it to 6.x and 7.x soon).  I've
 successfully used it to boot on 2 TB mfi(4) volumes.  Unfortunately
 sysinstall doesn't support GPT at all, only the older MBR + BSD label
 method.

 Note that this problem has nothing to do with mfi(4) at all, but it is a
 limitation of the BSD label + MBR that applies to any volume = 2 TB.


Hi John,

It seems that the problem is exactly as you described as i was able to get
everything working setting 2x146 disks as RAID1 and 4x146 as RAID5.

Regards,
Aldas
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Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-20 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 10:35:21AM +0100, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 You'd be best off with RELENG_7 and not 6.3, but yes, the controller in
 question should work on RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_3.

 Very well, seems like I am going to give RELENG_7 a try then.
 Thanks to everyone who replied!

Another user just posted to -stable about problems with these Dell
machines and PERC6.  I'm not sure if you're subscribed to -stable or
not, so here's the thread:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039791.html

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Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-17 Thread Vlad GALU
On 1/17/08, Ferdinand Goldmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 I am in the process of buying new Dell hardware, mainly the 2950 III.
 According to various postings I found, the PERC6/i Controller _should_ work
 with FreeBSD 6.3. Does anyone successfully use a 2950 III with PERC6/i
 controller and can confirm this?

 Sorry if the question sounds stupid, but as I cannot find any references to
 the PERC6 in either documentation or source code I am a bit confused, and I
 wanted to make sure it works before shelling out my employers money. :-)

 Many thanks for any enlightenment on this subject,
 kind regards,
 Ferdinand

   Don't know if this is useful to you, but I'm using 7.0 on the same
Dell platform, and hence on the same controller, with very good
results. I think the mfi(4) manpage should be updated too :)

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Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Judge

Ferdinand Goldmann wrote:

Hi!

I am in the process of buying new Dell hardware, mainly the 2950 III.
According to various postings I found, the PERC6/i Controller _should_ 
work with FreeBSD 6.3. Does anyone successfully use a 2950 III with 
PERC6/i controller and can confirm this?


Sorry if the question sounds stupid, but as I cannot find any references 
to the PERC6 in either documentation or source code I am a bit confused, 
and I wanted to make sure it works before shelling out my employers 
money. :-)


Many thanks for any enlightenment on this subject,
kind regards,
Ferdinand

Hi,

I have just pulled a new one out of a the box and done a boot and 
partition test on it using 6.3-RC2 boot only CD.  Seemed to work just 
fine.  I haven't got any PERC6/i's in production at this stage so can 
really say about their stability/performance just that they appear to 
work just fine with the 10 minute test I just did.


Tom
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Dell PERC6?

2008-01-17 Thread Ferdinand Goldmann

Hi!

I am in the process of buying new Dell hardware, mainly the 2950 III.
According to various postings I found, the PERC6/i Controller _should_ work 
with FreeBSD 6.3. Does anyone successfully use a 2950 III with PERC6/i 
controller and can confirm this?


Sorry if the question sounds stupid, but as I cannot find any references to 
the PERC6 in either documentation or source code I am a bit confused, and I 
wanted to make sure it works before shelling out my employers money. :-)


Many thanks for any enlightenment on this subject,
kind regards,
Ferdinand
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Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-17 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 01:59:36PM +0100, Ferdinand Goldmann wrote:
 I am in the process of buying new Dell hardware, mainly the 2950 III.
 According to various postings I found, the PERC6/i Controller _should_ work 
 with FreeBSD 6.3. Does anyone successfully use a 2950 III with PERC6/i 
 controller and can confirm this?

You'd be best off with RELENG_7 and not 6.3, but yes, the controller in
question should work on RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_3.

 Sorry if the question sounds stupid, but as I cannot find any references to 
 the PERC6 in either documentation or source code I am a bit confused, and I 
 wanted to make sure it works before shelling out my employers money. :-)

There's been recent discussions on -stable about performance issues with
mfi(4) under certain drive configuration conditions.  Here's the thread:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-December/038755.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039568.html

See specifically these two posts:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039574.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039660.html

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Re: Dell PERC6?

2008-01-17 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Vlad GALU writes:
| On 1/17/08, Ferdinand Goldmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Hi!
| 
|  I am in the process of buying new Dell hardware, mainly the 2950 III.
|  According to various postings I found, the PERC6/i Controller _should_ work
|  with FreeBSD 6.3. Does anyone successfully use a 2950 III with PERC6/i
|  controller and can confirm this?
| 
|  Sorry if the question sounds stupid, but as I cannot find any references to
|  the PERC6 in either documentation or source code I am a bit confused, and I
|  wanted to make sure it works before shelling out my employers money. :-)
| 
|  Many thanks for any enlightenment on this subject,
|  kind regards,
|  Ferdinand
|
|Don't know if this is useful to you, but I'm using 7.0 on the same
| Dell platform, and hence on the same controller, with very good
| results. I think the mfi(4) manpage should be updated too :)

It's been updated in -current.  Yes, PERC6 support is in 6.3  7.0.

Thanks for the prompt,

Doug A.
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