Re: Documentation of NO_* knobs

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 08:49:33AM +0100, Christian Brueffer wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:04:10PM +0100, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
  Hello,
  
  On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:18:31AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  
   I think you're looking for all the WITHOUT knobs in src.conf(5).
  
  I'm running RELENG_6_3 on production machines unlikely to change
  any time real soon.
  
   Note that src.conf(5) does not apply to RELENG_6 or earlier, where the
   knobs are named NO_xxx.  You can get a list of those from
   /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf.
  
  I knew about that file. NO_SYSCONS and NO_EXAMPLES are neither
  in this one nor in the manpage for make.conf.
  Yet they are in the handbook example for NanoBSD builds.
  
 
 If they are missing, it's a bug.  make.conf(5) and src.conf(5) from 7.0
 onwards really are the official documentation.
 

To follow up on this, according to src/share/Makefile, there is neither
NO_SYSCONS nor NO_EXAMPLES in RELENG_6, hence no documentation :-)

There are WITHOUT_SYSCONS and WITHOUT_EXAMPLES in RELENG_7 though.

- Christian

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Re: Documentation of NO_* knobs

2008-02-28 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:04:10PM +0100, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:18:31AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
  I think you're looking for all the WITHOUT knobs in src.conf(5).
 
 I'm running RELENG_6_3 on production machines unlikely to change
 any time real soon.
 
  Note that src.conf(5) does not apply to RELENG_6 or earlier, where the
  knobs are named NO_xxx.  You can get a list of those from
  /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf.
 
 I knew about that file. NO_SYSCONS and NO_EXAMPLES are neither
 in this one nor in the manpage for make.conf.
 Yet they are in the handbook example for NanoBSD builds.
 

If they are missing, it's a bug.  make.conf(5) and src.conf(5) from 7.0
onwards really are the official documentation.

- Christian

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Documentation of NO_* knobs

2008-02-27 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi, all,

is there an exhaustive list of all possible NO_* knobs
for make.conf? While experimenting with NanoBSD I found
e.g. that the handbook

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/nanobsd/index.html

mentions

NO_EXAMPLES
NO_SYSCONS
...

- just two out of many. Yet, these are not in the manpage of
make.conf(5) on a 6.3-RELEASE. So, where did the handbook
author find them?

Thanks,
Patrick
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Re: Documentation of NO_* knobs

2008-02-27 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 05:32:55PM +0100, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
 is there an exhaustive list of all possible NO_* knobs
 for make.conf? While experimenting with NanoBSD I found
 e.g. that the handbook
 - just two out of many. Yet, these are not in the manpage of
 make.conf(5) on a 6.3-RELEASE. So, where did the handbook
 author find them?

I think you're looking for all the WITHOUT knobs in src.conf(5).

Starting with RELENG_7, all of the NO knobs for removal of features in
the base system were moved into /etc/src.conf and renamed to WITHOUT.
Some may also have changed names, so look closely.

Note that src.conf(5) does not apply to RELENG_6 or earlier, where the
knobs are named NO_xxx.  You can get a list of those from
/usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Documentation of NO_* knobs

2008-02-27 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hello,

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:18:31AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

 I think you're looking for all the WITHOUT knobs in src.conf(5).

I'm running RELENG_6_3 on production machines unlikely to change
any time real soon.

 Note that src.conf(5) does not apply to RELENG_6 or earlier, where the
 knobs are named NO_xxx.  You can get a list of those from
 /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf.

I knew about that file. NO_SYSCONS and NO_EXAMPLES are neither
in this one nor in the manpage for make.conf.
Yet they are in the handbook example for NanoBSD builds.

That's why I'm asking for the official exhaustive list.

Thanks for taking the time to answer,
Patrick
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