Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
--- Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:35 + Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 03:28 -0800, Unga wrote: --- Michael Proto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unga wrote: Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? Best Regards Unga I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I'm running several 6.2-RELEASE-p8 boxes (servers and laptop workstations) for several months now without a single lock-up. I'd first look into hardware, testing memory, testing the power supply, and checking CPU/chipset temperatures as they have often contributed to problems similar to what you are describing. 6.2 has been working extremely well for me with no stability issues that weren't related to hardware problems. Thanks for all the replies. It may be a hardware issue. This is a more than four year old computer. Btw, I forgot to mention this is not a server, its running KDE, trying to use as a desktop. Any one of the hangs do not develop any core dump or /var/crash/kernel.0 or /var/crash/vmcore.0. Just the cursor disappear and keyboard does not respond. Only switch off and on can bring the machine up. Are there any hardware analyzing software that I can run on FreeBSD, so that I could narrow down the cause? Unga Can you verify that the machine is actually dead? Do you have another machine that you can hook up either to a serial console, or ssh into the dead box? Weird X symptoms could lead to an unresponsive keyboard, with the machine running just fine underneath X. Just to re-enforce this, I have a colleague who is seeing this on his Radeon-based Lenovo T43 (m300). The display blanks and cannot be resurrected, even CTRL-ALT-BS does not help, but the system is alive. Oddly, I also have a Lenovo T43 based system and it has never shown this problem. It might be something in your xorg setup that is triggering it. If your system is a Radeon, you might try booting with no xorg.conf file. I have found that worked well for my system. Other possibilities include hw.acpi.reset_video=1 (sysctl.conf) and acpi_video_load=YES (loader.conf). I would like to figure out why my system has no issues while others go off to never-never land. Mine is also an ATI Radeon card: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] rev 1 Chipset ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 (AGP) I cannot ssh to the machine while its freezes. It says 'no route to host'. That is, the machine is completely dead. The other thing is, FreeBSD installer has not installed an xorg.conf. I have created an xorg.conf using Xorg -configure and moved to /etc/X11/. Adjusted the HorizSync and VertRefresh to match the monitor, driver I used ati, added Modes and an DRI section with Mode 0666. If it crashes again I'll let the list know. Unga Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
Unga wrote: Mine is also an ATI Radeon card: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] rev 1 Chipset ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 (AGP) I cannot ssh to the machine while its freezes. It says 'no route to host'. That is, the machine is completely dead. The other thing is, FreeBSD installer has not installed an xorg.conf. I have created an xorg.conf using Xorg -configure and moved to /etc/X11/. Adjusted the HorizSync and VertRefresh to match the monitor, driver I used ati, added Modes and an DRI section with Mode 0666. If it crashes again I'll let the list know. Just a thought, but you might also want to try using the VESA X driver for a while and see if the same symptoms persist. Its slower than a native driver but can also be used to identify if the X driver is in fact causing problems. -Proto ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
--- Michael Proto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unga wrote: Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? Best Regards Unga I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I'm running several 6.2-RELEASE-p8 boxes (servers and laptop workstations) for several months now without a single lock-up. I'd first look into hardware, testing memory, testing the power supply, and checking CPU/chipset temperatures as they have often contributed to problems similar to what you are describing. 6.2 has been working extremely well for me with no stability issues that weren't related to hardware problems. Thanks for all the replies. It may be a hardware issue. This is a more than four year old computer. Btw, I forgot to mention this is not a server, its running KDE, trying to use as a desktop. Any one of the hangs do not develop any core dump or /var/crash/kernel.0 or /var/crash/vmcore.0. Just the cursor disappear and keyboard does not respond. Only switch off and on can bring the machine up. Are there any hardware analyzing software that I can run on FreeBSD, so that I could narrow down the cause? Unga Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 03:28 -0800, Unga wrote: --- Michael Proto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unga wrote: Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? Best Regards Unga I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I'm running several 6.2-RELEASE-p8 boxes (servers and laptop workstations) for several months now without a single lock-up. I'd first look into hardware, testing memory, testing the power supply, and checking CPU/chipset temperatures as they have often contributed to problems similar to what you are describing. 6.2 has been working extremely well for me with no stability issues that weren't related to hardware problems. Thanks for all the replies. It may be a hardware issue. This is a more than four year old computer. Btw, I forgot to mention this is not a server, its running KDE, trying to use as a desktop. Any one of the hangs do not develop any core dump or /var/crash/kernel.0 or /var/crash/vmcore.0. Just the cursor disappear and keyboard does not respond. Only switch off and on can bring the machine up. Are there any hardware analyzing software that I can run on FreeBSD, so that I could narrow down the cause? Unga Can you verify that the machine is actually dead? Do you have another machine that you can hook up either to a serial console, or ssh into the dead box? Weird X symptoms could lead to an unresponsive keyboard, with the machine running just fine underneath X. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
From: Tom Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:42:35 + Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 03:28 -0800, Unga wrote: --- Michael Proto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unga wrote: Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? Best Regards Unga I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I'm running several 6.2-RELEASE-p8 boxes (servers and laptop workstations) for several months now without a single lock-up. I'd first look into hardware, testing memory, testing the power supply, and checking CPU/chipset temperatures as they have often contributed to problems similar to what you are describing. 6.2 has been working extremely well for me with no stability issues that weren't related to hardware problems. Thanks for all the replies. It may be a hardware issue. This is a more than four year old computer. Btw, I forgot to mention this is not a server, its running KDE, trying to use as a desktop. Any one of the hangs do not develop any core dump or /var/crash/kernel.0 or /var/crash/vmcore.0. Just the cursor disappear and keyboard does not respond. Only switch off and on can bring the machine up. Are there any hardware analyzing software that I can run on FreeBSD, so that I could narrow down the cause? Unga Can you verify that the machine is actually dead? Do you have another machine that you can hook up either to a serial console, or ssh into the dead box? Weird X symptoms could lead to an unresponsive keyboard, with the machine running just fine underneath X. Just to re-enforce this, I have a colleague who is seeing this on his Radeon-based Lenovo T43 (m300). The display blanks and cannot be resurrected, even CTRL-ALT-BS does not help, but the system is alive. Oddly, I also have a Lenovo T43 based system and it has never shown this problem. It might be something in your xorg setup that is triggering it. If your system is a Radeon, you might try booting with no xorg.conf file. I have found that worked well for my system. Other possibilities include hw.acpi.reset_video=1 (sysctl.conf) and acpi_video_load=YES (loader.conf). I would like to figure out why my system has no issues while others go off to never-never land. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 pgpqIaJVupZbV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Radeon/X freezes (was Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang)
On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 08:37:05AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: ... Can you verify that the machine is actually dead? Do you have another machine that you can hook up either to a serial console, or ssh into the dead box? Weird X symptoms could lead to an unresponsive keyboard, with the machine running just fine underneath X. Just to re-enforce this, I have a colleague who is seeing this on his Radeon-based Lenovo T43 (m300). The display blanks and cannot be resurrected, even CTRL-ALT-BS does not help, but the system is alive. Oddly, I also have a Lenovo T43 based system and it has never shown this problem. It might be something in your xorg setup that is triggering it. FWIW, I have also seen seemingly identical symptoms a couple times on a Debian server I set up a couple weeks ago at work, also using a Radeon card (Radeon 9250) and xorg. The console goes away (freezes completely), Control-Alt-Backspace doesn't work to restore it, but the system is still accessible via ssh. This leads me to suspect the reported problem may not be a FreeBSD issue per se but an xorg Radeon driver issue. Reducing the maximum sync setting may have helped, but I don't consider it confirmed yet. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? Best Regards Unga Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
Unga wrote: Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? Best Regards Unga I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I'm running several 6.2-RELEASE-p8 boxes (servers and laptop workstations) for several months now without a single lock-up. I'd first look into hardware, testing memory, testing the power supply, and checking CPU/chipset temperatures as they have often contributed to problems similar to what you are describing. 6.2 has been working extremely well for me with no stability issues that weren't related to hardware problems. -Proto ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
Hi, Unga wrote: Hi all I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Intel P4 3.0GHz, 512MB Ram computer. Its very irritatingly hangs very frequently, more than 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? I simply cannot use it for any serious use, not even to send a mail, other than browsing web. I find it mostly when I try to move the mouse it hangs. Upward and downward cursor keys press and hold also hangs, but not always. These may be just coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html should help you how to start finding out why :) How is the stability of the upcoming 7.0? You should try it on your hardware and see how it will perform. it can be more stable .. or less :) but it have to be faster :) Best Regards Unga Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Wishes, Stefan Lambrev ICQ# 24134177 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hang
On Nov 28, 2007 5:15 PM, Unga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 times a day. Do others find FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE always hangs? no coincidental. How do I find why it hangs? hardware problem, i suppose. broken cpu fan? -- Cris, member of G.U.F.I Italian FreeBSD User Group http://www.gufi.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
