Re: Jail resource limits

2008-05-23 Thread Peter Ankerstål


On May 22, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

Quoting Miroslav Lachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 22 May 2008  
13:19:55 +0200):



Peter Ankerstål wrote:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits


If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some  
mentioned projects, I am willing to help with testing.


Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with all  
the patches (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and  
status of this work, so people can easily find and try it.


Are you willing to update the existing wiki page? If yes register to  
the wiki (default style would be MiroslavLachman as the username)  
and I give you write access to the page.


Maybe it will be a good idea to create a new page that puts all jail- 
stuff in one place. I mean, there is more to this then just resource  
limits.


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Jail resource limits

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Ankerstål

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits

Is this anthing people are working on? Is it on its way to RELENG_7?
Is there a 7-version of the patch or anything? This would be a _VERY_
useful feature.

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Re: Jail resource limits

2008-05-22 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Peter Ankerstål wrote:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits

Is this anthing people are working on? Is it on its way to RELENG_7?
Is there a 7-version of the patch or anything? This would be a _VERY_
useful feature.


Hi,
AFAIK nobody is working on it. A year ago there was newer release of the 
patch against CURRENT at that time (FreeBSD 7) [1] 
http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/jail-cpumem-current.tgz
I never test this patch on current, only version for 6.x and if patch 
for current were made without improvements, it contains same bugs as 
patch for 6.x (eg.: not showing memory usage).


There are some other guys trying to do the same, but I never saw patches 
published.

Andrew Snow - Jails as a VPS [2]
Alex Lyashkov - Jail2 aka FreeVPS [3a][3b]

Or fixes for C.D. Jones work:
Chris Thunes - jtune not showing resource usage - fixed [4] (note - 
attached patch is reversed) [5]


So as you can see, there were some talks about Jail improvements for one 
year existence of this mailinglist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), also it 
is two years from SoC [6] and we still don't have anything commited to 
7.x or to CURRENT. It is sad. There is little attention to jails, only 
few people are able to do some coding work etc.


If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned 
projects, I am willing to help with testing.


Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with all the 
patches (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and status of this 
work, so people can easily find and try it.


Miroslav Lachman

[1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-June/30.html

[2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-January/000152.html

[3a] http://docs.freevps.com/doku.php?id=freebsd:index
[3b] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2006-June/005293.html

[4] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-August/60.html

[5] 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2007-September/000101.html


[6] http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits

Other links:
jail services:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsiaBSDCon_2007_DevSummit?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=jail_services.pdf
kernel level virtualisation requirements:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2007-October/006872.html
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Re: Jail resource limits

2008-05-22 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Quoting Miroslav Lachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Thu, 22 May 2008  
13:19:55 +0200):



Peter Ankerstål wrote:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JailResourceLimits


If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned  
projects, I am willing to help with testing.


Also it will be good to have some up-to-date wiki page with all the  
patches (resource limits, SysV IPC, multiple IPs...) and status of  
this work, so people can easily find and try it.


Are you willing to update the existing wiki page? If yes register to  
the wiki (default style would be MiroslavLachman as the username) and  
I give you write access to the page.


Bye,
Alexander.

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Re: Jail resource limits

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Ankerstål



If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned  
projects, I am willing to help with testing.


I will also be happy to help in whatever way I can. I have no coding- 
experience to talk about. But testing in various env

and so on. (and help with docs/wiki)
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Re: Jail resource limits

2008-05-22 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb

On Thu, 22 May 2008, Peter Ankerstål wrote:

Hi,

If the are somebody with skills and time to resurrect some mentioned 
projects, I am willing to help with testing.


I will also be happy to help in whatever way I can. I have no 
coding-experience to talk about. But testing in various env

and so on. (and help with docs/wiki)


I will have to go through all this again but it seems that there is
more interest from multiple people on this work.

As I am currently working on FreeBSD jails (see latetst status report
http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2008-01-2008-03.html#Multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP-jails
and follow to my homepage to also find the slide from the BSDCan WIP
session) I should look into this for everyone running FreeBSD 7.

I'll try to get an overview on all the work out there based on the
pointers already posted and will see how I can integrate that with
whatever is going on in FreeBSD atm or come up with new patches..


Regards,
Bjoern

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Re: Jail resource limits

2008-05-22 Thread Steven Hartland

This is something we're really looking forward to tbh a great
feature :) One of the reasons for this is hosting jails, with
the addition of multi IP support we will be able to enable
jails to connect to backdoor secure services such as a
mysql server.

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From: Bjoern A. Zeeb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I will have to go through all this again but it seems that there is
more interest from multiple people on this work.

As I am currently working on FreeBSD jails (see latetst status report
http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2008-01-2008-03.html#Multi-IPv4/v6/no-IP-jails
and follow to my homepage to also find the slide from the BSDCan WIP
session) I should look into this for everyone running FreeBSD 7.

I'll try to get an overview on all the work out there based on the
pointers already posted and will see how I can integrate that with
whatever is going on in FreeBSD atm or come up with new patches..


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Re: Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-19 Thread Robert Watson


On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Miroslav Lachman wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:


  http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/cdjones_jail_soc2006.patch

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be 
against REL_6 from last years SOC ...


Is anyone using it in production anywhere?


I got same question + one more. Why there are SoC projects, which never come 
in to src tree or wider publicity? Sometimes it is like wasting of human 
resources... ;(


Summer of Code projects are student projects funded by Google for a summer. 
Many of the project proposals are significantly more ambitious than a single 
summer, and take much longer to come to fruition -- often being merged in the 
winter, the next spring, or even a summer or two later.  Not all projects are 
even intended to lead directly to commitable code: some are effectively RD 
projects to understand new areas of work.  However, we have a fairly high 
success rate in getting things committed within a year or so: remember, things 
need time for testing, review, revision, etc, and this requires a significant 
effort by the students, their mentors, and the project as a whole over a very 
extended period of time.


Per the recent announcement on the freebsd-announce mailing list and on the 
web site, you can learn more about the SoC projects by visiting the FreeBSD 
web page, and also the FreeBSD wiki which contains more detailed information 
on each project:


http://www.freebsd.org/projects/summerofcode-2007.html

http://wiki.freebsd.org//SummerOfCode2007

The 2007 SoC season has barely begun, as the official start date is at the end 
of May.  However, many students have started, and already put information 
about their projects online.


Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
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Re: Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-19 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Robert Watson wrote:


On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Miroslav Lachman wrote:


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:



  http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/cdjones_jail_soc2006.patch

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be 
against REL_6 from last years SOC ...


Is anyone using it in production anywhere?



I got same question + one more. Why there are SoC projects, which 
never come in to src tree or wider publicity? Sometimes it is like 
wasting of human resources... ;(



Summer of Code projects are student projects funded by Google for a 
summer. Many of the project proposals are significantly more ambitious 
than a single summer, and take much longer to come to fruition -- often 
being merged in the winter, the next spring, or even a summer or two 
later.  Not all projects are even intended to lead directly to 
commitable code: some are effectively RD projects to understand new 
areas of work.  However, we have a fairly high success rate in getting 
things committed within a year or so: remember, things need time for 
testing, review, revision, etc, and this requires a significant effort 
by the students, their mentors, and the project as a whole over a very 
extended period of time.


Per the recent announcement on the freebsd-announce mailing list and on 
the web site, you can learn more about the SoC projects by visiting the 
FreeBSD web page, and also the FreeBSD wiki which contains more detailed 
information on each project:


http://www.freebsd.org/projects/summerofcode-2007.html

http://wiki.freebsd.org//SummerOfCode2007

The 2007 SoC season has barely begun, as the official start date is at 
the end of May.  However, many students have started, and already put 
information about their projects online.


I understand. But from my point of view - there is lack of PR (Public 
Relations) for those projects and patches. Somebody did patch with new / 
experimental features and almost nobody knows about it. And even if 
somebody find the patch / webpage about some project, there is date from 
last summer so project seems dead without future or patch can't be 
applied to current sources.
So I thing FreeBSD needs some central place for these informations - 
maybe called Experimental Area with informations + patches + 
up-to-date statuses, list of testers, list of bugs / successes, list of 
untested things etc. So one can easily find / try / test / fix / help 
with any of useful things around FreeBSD not included in STABLE or 
CURRENT.
I thing some Wiki engine + mailinglist + reminders would be useful for 
this. Any thoughts?
At this time, some things are on SoC pages, some on personal pages of 
FreeBSD developers and some on the other hard to find places.


Miroslav Lachman
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Re: Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-18 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
  Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:


  http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/cdjones_jail_soc2006.patch

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be against 
REL_6 from last years SOC ...


Is anyone using it in production anywhere?


- 
Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)


I got same question + one more. Why there are SoC projects, which never 
come in to src tree or wider publicity? Sometimes it is like wasting of 
human resources... ;(


Miroslav Lachman
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Jail Resource Limits for 6.x ...

2007-04-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Is anyone looking into merging in the patch available at:

  http://www.ualberta.ca/~cdjones/cdjones_jail_soc2006.patch

That provides both memory and cpu limits on a jail?  It appears to be against 
REL_6 from last years SOC ...

Is anyone using it in production anywhere?


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