Re: Network often not responding

2006-08-10 Thread Dominic Marks

Stanislaw Halik wrote:

On Wed, Aug 09, 2006, Dominic Marks wrote:

Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90
Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start 
threshold to 120 bytes



dc%d: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold  The device generated a
transmit underrun error while attempting to DMA and transmit a packet.
This happens if the host is not able to DMA the packet data into the

  

NIC's FIFO fast enough.  The driver will dynamically increase the

  ~~

trans- mit start threshold so that more data must be DMAed into the
FIFO before the NIC will start transmitting it onto the wire.



So it would seem like the card cannot keep pace with the system. What NICs

~

have you tried?


Basing on the quoted text, isn't it the opposite?



Yep! I should read more than the first line on things, especially when 
quoting

them to others :)

Dom
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Re: Network often not responding

2006-08-10 Thread Akhmad Sakirun
I little bit frustated
after getting no luck with Pyun YongHyeon patch, i run cvsup today and
going to see what happen tomorrow.
It's happen only on bussy hour/work hour but not on afternoon until
morning. it's mean only happen when on maximum/heavy traffic load.
I suspected it's error on motherboard or the system.

now i'm using 2 ethernet using 2 different catalyst switch and 2 different 
network.
1st ethernet:

em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.0.5 port 0xa800-0xa83f 
mem 0xfeaa-0xfeab,0xfea8-0xfea9 irq 18 at device 3.0 on pci2
em0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:31:af:ca
em0: [FAST]

2nd ethernet:
xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xa880-0xa8ff mem 
0xfeafec00-0xfeafec7f irq 19 at device 7.0 on pci2
miibus0: MII bus on xl0
xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:0d:c1:45

Best regards,

Thursday, August 10, 2006, 8:08:45 PM, Dominic wrote:
 Stanislaw Halik wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 09, 2006, Dominic Marks wrote:
 Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90
 Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start
 threshold to 120 bytes
 
 dc%d: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold  The device generated a
 transmit underrun error while attempting to DMA and transmit a packet.
 This happens if the host is not able to DMA the packet data into the
  
 
 NIC's FIFO fast enough.  The driver will dynamically increase the
   ~~
 trans- mit start threshold so that more data must be DMAed into the
 FIFO before the NIC will start transmitting it onto the wire.
 
 So it would seem like the card cannot keep pace with the system. What NICs
 ~
 have you tried?
 
 Basing on the quoted text, isn't it the opposite?
 

 Yep! I should read more than the first line on things, especially when
 quoting
 them to others :)

 Dom
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Network often not responding

2006-08-09 Thread Akhmad Sakirun
Hello,

I have squid cache server using:
MB Tyan Tiger K8W/S2875
Dual Opteron 246
4 GB DDR,
connected to cisco catalyst.
Freebsd AMD64 6.1-Stable

sometimes network down and up again on uncertain condition
i've tried change network card  and disable onboadr gigabit ethernet,
work good for a days then it happen again.
Then i try to move another port on catalyst switch, it's same.

When network not responding connecting using cross-cable not work too.
it will up again 5 minutes later or more.

I can't find any relevan error on /var/log/message except something
like this:
Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90
Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold 
to 120 bytes

anyone experienced something like this ?








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Re: Network often not responding

2006-08-09 Thread Stanislaw Halik
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006, Dominic Marks wrote:
 Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: transmission error: 90
 Aug  9 15:09:16 cache kernel: xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start 
 threshold to 120 bytes

 dc%d: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold  The device generated a
 transmit underrun error while attempting to DMA and transmit a packet.
 This happens if the host is not able to DMA the packet data into the
  
 NIC's FIFO fast enough.  The driver will dynamically increase the
  ~~
 trans- mit start threshold so that more data must be DMAed into the
 FIFO before the NIC will start transmitting it onto the wire.

 So it would seem like the card cannot keep pace with the system. What NICs
~
 have you tried?

Basing on the quoted text, isn't it the opposite?

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Re: Network often not responding

2006-08-09 Thread Akhmad Sakirun
Hello,

right now, i'm using 3com ethernet:
xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xa880-0xa8ff mem 
0xfeafec00-0xfeafec7f irq 19 at device 7.0 on pci2
miibus0: MII bus on xl0
xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:0d:c1:45

onboard ethernet which disabled via BIOS was:
Intel 82541E1 GbE

Average traffic is 10-15Mbps on bussy hours,

and connected client average  1000
#netstat -n | grep EST | wc -l
# 780

I really confused, i don't have any other Freebsd AMD64 system installed, but 
other
with i386 system never got any problem like this.

Best regards,

Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 9:10:01 PM, Dominic wrote:
 Googling for the second line I found this:

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2005-November/009273.html

 It quotes this part of the manual page for dc, another network card:

 This is from the dc(4) man page:

   dc%d: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold  The device generated a
   transmit underrun error while attempting to DMA and transmit a packet.
   This happens if the host is not able to DMA the packet data into the
   NIC's FIFO fast enough.  The driver will dynamically increase the
 trans-
   mit start threshold so that more data must be DMAed into the FIFO
 before
   the NIC will start transmitting it onto the wire.

 So it would seem like the card cannot keep pace with the system. What NICs
 have you tried?

 Dom

 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Network often not responding

2006-08-09 Thread Pyun YongHyeon
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:18:23AM +0700, Akhmad Sakirun wrote:
  Hello,
  
  right now, i'm using 3com ethernet:
  xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xa880-0xa8ff mem 
  0xfeafec00-0xfeafec7f irq 19 at device 7.0 on pci2
  miibus0: MII bus on xl0
  xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0
  xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
  xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:0d:c1:45
  
  onboard ethernet which disabled via BIOS was:
  Intel 82541E1 GbE
  
  Average traffic is 10-15Mbps on bussy hours,
  
  and connected client average  1000
  #netstat -n | grep EST | wc -l
  # 780
  
  I really confused, i don't have any other Freebsd AMD64 system installed, 
  but other
  with i386 system never got any problem like this.
  
  Best regards,
  
  Wednesday, August 9, 2006, 9:10:01 PM, Dominic wrote:
   Googling for the second line I found this:
  
   http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2005-November/009273.html
  
   It quotes this part of the manual page for dc, another network card:
  
   This is from the dc(4) man page:
  
 dc%d: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold  The device generated a
 transmit underrun error while attempting to DMA and transmit a 
   packet.
 This happens if the host is not able to DMA the packet data into the
 NIC's FIFO fast enough.  The driver will dynamically increase the
   trans-
 mit start threshold so that more data must be DMAed into the FIFO
   before
 the NIC will start transmitting it onto the wire.
  
   So it would seem like the card cannot keep pace with the system. What NICs
   have you tried?
  
   Dom
  

[CCed to wpaul, the author of xl(4)]

I'm not familiar with 3Com 90x NICs but the datasheet says the
following.
Tx underrun halts the the transmitter and the transmit FIFO. The
TxReset and TxEnable commands must be issued before any new packets
are submitted to the NIC.
But I can't find the above programming sequence in xl_txeoc() so your
NIC may have been stuck in wedged state if it didn't work anymore
after seeing tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to xx bytes
message.
Normally xl(4) should activate watchdog timeout for above case but
xl(4) has a bug which blindly clears armed watchdog in xl_txeof/
xl_txeof_90xB(). I think you can set the threshold to a higher value
so make xl(4) not see the Tx underrun issue(simple patch attached,
you may need to increase xl_tx_thread to higher value). The correct
solution should follow the procedure outlined in datasheet and
remember the threshold caused the underrun instead of resetting it
in xl_init_locked() but it's hard to reset Tx path only and need
knowledge of internals of the NIC so it's more easy to reset entire
NIC if it see Tx underruns, I guess.

-- 
Regards,
Pyun YongHyeon
--- if_xl.c.origTue Feb 14 21:44:56 2006
+++ if_xl.c Thu Aug 10 12:54:45 2006
@@ -2848,7 +2848,12 @@
CSR_WRITE_1(sc, XL_TX_FREETHRESH, XL_PACKET_SIZE  8);
 
/* Set the TX start threshold for best performance. */
+#if 0
sc-xl_tx_thresh = XL_MIN_FRAMELEN;
+#else
+   /* set higher Tx threshold: 120, 180, 230, 300 etc */
+   sc-xl_tx_thresh = 120;
+#endif
CSR_WRITE_2(sc, XL_COMMAND, XL_CMD_TX_SET_START|sc-xl_tx_thresh);
 
/*
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