Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Matthias Buelow wrote: Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) Just for the record. I ran vmstat -i in a loop while untarring the thunderbird source (causing degraded interactive responsiveness, as reported in an earlier mail), and couldn't see any noticable increase in interrupt rate. mkb. I've noticed that the idle process is using sometimes as much as 60% of my CPU. Could it be a relation between that and the lag we have with 5.4? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Matthias Buelow wrote: Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) Just for the record. I ran vmstat -i in a loop while untarring the thunderbird source (causing degraded interactive responsiveness, as reported in an earlier mail), and couldn't see any noticable increase in interrupt rate. mkb. I've noticed that the idle process is using sometimes as much as 60% of my CPU. Could it be a relation between that and the lag we have with 5.4? That is different. sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=C1 to see if that works around it. -- Nate ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Nate Lawson wrote: Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Matthias Buelow wrote: Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) Just for the record. I ran vmstat -i in a loop while untarring the thunderbird source (causing degraded interactive responsiveness, as reported in an earlier mail), and couldn't see any noticable increase in interrupt rate. mkb. I've noticed that the idle process is using sometimes as much as 60% of my CPU. Could it be a relation between that and the lag we have with 5.4? That is different. sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=C1 to see if that works around it. I already have this ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Nate Lawson wrote: Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Matthias Buelow wrote: Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) Just for the record. I ran vmstat -i in a loop while untarring the thunderbird source (causing degraded interactive responsiveness, as reported in an earlier mail), and couldn't see any noticable increase in interrupt rate. mkb. I've noticed that the idle process is using sometimes as much as 60% of my CPU. Could it be a relation between that and the lag we have with 5.4? That is different. sysctl hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest=C1 to see if that works around it. I already have this Then it's not acpi since c1 is the old (even 4.x) behavior. -- Nate ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) Just for the record. I ran vmstat -i in a loop while untarring the thunderbird source (causing degraded interactive responsiveness, as reported in an earlier mail), and couldn't see any noticable increase in interrupt rate. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D pgpyyV14M5PEe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Am Sonntag, 3. April 2005 18:07 schrieb Pierre-Luc Drouin: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Huh? I thought by default it is HIGH, but it would also explain the experiences in the thread cpufreq related RELENG_5 regression (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=389949+393881+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20050327.freebsd-stable) -Harry ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpIA4BhxcUBB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:07:14PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Good to hear. Nate, this regression was introduced during the cpufreq and friends MFC. Is switching the performance_cpu_freq default to HIGH the way to go for 5.4-RELEASE? - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D pgp6ueduj7578.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 06:34:46PM +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote: Am Sonntag, 3. April 2005 18:07 schrieb Pierre-Luc Drouin: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Huh? I thought by default it is HIGH, but it would also explain the experiences in the thread cpufreq related RELENG_5 regression (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=389949+393881+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20050327.freebsd-stable) Actually I mentioned the workaround in the first message of that thread :-) - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D pgpLbRGkKIMVE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Emanuel Strobl wrote: Huh? I thought by default it is HIGH, but it would also explain the experiences in the thread cpufreq related RELENG_5 regression (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=389949+393881+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20050327.freebsd-stable) But does that also affect desktop machines? I'm not under the impression that my CPU is running at a lower frequency. The issue I mentioned only seems to occur when doing larger block reads/writes from/to disk (SATA), like untarring firefox. I didn't notice it so far when some kind of mixed disk access is going on, like with find, compiling, etc. Maybe that points to some locking issues in the VM corner? I mean, it's not dramatic, but still makes the system appear a bit unpolished, when it happens. In the past, with pre-5.x releases, FreeBSD has been scheduling disk i/o and interactive work smoothly, in my experience, so one didn't quite notice when heavy disk access was going on, at least not if your interactive programs weren't doing much disk i/o themselves. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 07:02:16PM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote: Emanuel Strobl wrote: Huh? I thought by default it is HIGH, but it would also explain the experiences in the thread cpufreq related RELENG_5 regression (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=389949+393881+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20050327.freebsd-stable) But does that also affect desktop machines? It could. I'm not under the impression that my CPU is running at a lower frequency. OK, but did you try the workaround? Kris pgpS6wYymlMdi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 07:02:16PM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote: Emanuel Strobl wrote: Huh? I thought by default it is HIGH, but it would also explain the experiences in the thread cpufreq related RELENG_5 regression (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=389949+393881+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20050327.freebsd-stable) But does that also affect desktop machines? I'm not under the impression that my CPU is running at a lower frequency. The issue I mentioned only seems to occur when doing larger block reads/writes from/to disk (SATA), like untarring firefox. I didn't notice it so far when some kind of mixed disk access is going on, like with find, compiling, etc. Maybe that points to some locking issues in the VM corner? I mean, it's not dramatic, but still makes the system appear a bit unpolished, when it happens. In the past, with pre-5.x releases, FreeBSD has been scheduling disk i/o and interactive work smoothly, in my experience, so one didn't quite notice when heavy disk access was going on, at least not if your interactive programs weren't doing much disk i/o themselves. Not sure about desktop machines, probably depends on what exactly you're doing. At least it affects real-world scenarios, see my original message to this list: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-March/013036.html - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D pgpIDm1GO81J0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:07:14PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Good to hear. Nate, this regression was introduced during the cpufreq and friends MFC. Is switching the performance_cpu_freq default to HIGH the way to go for 5.4-RELEASE? - Christian As you can see from etc/defaults/rc.conf on both -current and RELENG_5, we don't currently change the frequency at all: performance_cpu_freq=NONE # Online CPU frequency economy_cpu_freq=NONE # Offline CPU frequency However, it sounds like his system's BIOS is booting up with a low acpi_throttle setting (probably the lowest one, 12.5% on many systems) and so he is seeing very slow performance. (Only the acpi_throttle cpufreq driver has been MFCd for the 5.4 release and the others will follow the release.) Initially, I thought it was safest not to even touch the frequency but it looks like it is necessary for some systems to always force it high by default. I'll change the default to HIGH so that we always put systems in the fastest performance mode by default. It will be MFCd quickly as well. Thanks, -- Nate ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm not under the impression that my CPU is running at a lower frequency. OK, but did you try the workaround? I have now and it doesn't make any difference. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 11:51:43PM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm not under the impression that my CPU is running at a lower frequency. OK, but did you try the workaround? I have now and it doesn't make any difference. OK, must be a different problem then. Kris pgpbV3bmFBj9P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 02:45:40PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:07:14PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH - Christian Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Good to hear. Nate, this regression was introduced during the cpufreq and friends MFC. Is switching the performance_cpu_freq default to HIGH the way to go for 5.4-RELEASE? - Christian As you can see from etc/defaults/rc.conf on both -current and RELENG_5, we don't currently change the frequency at all: performance_cpu_freq=NONE # Online CPU frequency economy_cpu_freq=NONE # Offline CPU frequency However, it sounds like his system's BIOS is booting up with a low acpi_throttle setting (probably the lowest one, 12.5% on many systems) and so he is seeing very slow performance. (Only the acpi_throttle cpufreq driver has been MFCd for the 5.4 release and the others will follow the release.) Initially, I thought it was safest not to even touch the frequency but it looks like it is necessary for some systems to always force it high by default. I'll change the default to HIGH so that we always put systems in the fastest performance mode by default. It will be MFCd quickly as well. Great, thanks! - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D pgpGGXvLHnPwt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sunday, 3 April 2005 at 14:45:40 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:07:14PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Good to hear. Nate, this regression was introduced during the cpufreq and friends MFC. Is switching the performance_cpu_freq default to HIGH the way to go for 5.4-RELEASE? As you can see from etc/defaults/rc.conf on both -current and RELENG_5, we don't currently change the frequency at all: performance_cpu_freq=NONE # Online CPU frequency economy_cpu_freq=NONE # Offline CPU frequency However, it sounds like his system's BIOS is booting up with a low acpi_throttle setting (probably the lowest one, 12.5% on many systems) and so he is seeing very slow performance. (Only the acpi_throttle cpufreq driver has been MFCd for the 5.4 release and the others will follow the release.) Initially, I thought it was safest not to even touch the frequency but it looks like it is necessary for some systems to always force it high by default. I'm experiencing similar issues. How can I confirm that this is the case without rebooting the machine (which would be inconvenient)? Is there some sysctl that tells me? I've taken a look, but I don't see anything obvious. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpuWiaFyppGe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 3 April 2005 at 14:45:40 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:07:14PM -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 09:16:48PM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? I have experienced something similar, putting the following into rc.conf worked for me: performance_cpu_freq=HIGH Yes, this seams to fix it. I didn't know that I had a laptop? :) Good to hear. Nate, this regression was introduced during the cpufreq and friends MFC. Is switching the performance_cpu_freq default to HIGH the way to go for 5.4-RELEASE? As you can see from etc/defaults/rc.conf on both -current and RELENG_5, we don't currently change the frequency at all: performance_cpu_freq=NONE # Online CPU frequency economy_cpu_freq=NONE # Offline CPU frequency However, it sounds like his system's BIOS is booting up with a low acpi_throttle setting (probably the lowest one, 12.5% on many systems) and so he is seeing very slow performance. (Only the acpi_throttle cpufreq driver has been MFCd for the 5.4 release and the others will follow the release.) Initially, I thought it was safest not to even touch the frequency but it looks like it is necessary for some systems to always force it high by default. I'm experiencing similar issues. How can I confirm that this is the case without rebooting the machine (which would be inconvenient)? Is there some sysctl that tells me? I've taken a look, but I don't see anything obvious. sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) -- Nate ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sunday, 3 April 2005 at 21:43:57 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I'm experiencing similar issues. How can I confirm that this is the case without rebooting the machine (which would be inconvenient)? Is there some sysctl that tells me? I've taken a look, but I don't see anything obvious. sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. There's nothing there that reaches out and grabs me: dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 If low, then your system is affected and will be fixed soon when I mfc. If not, perhaps you have an interrupt storm (vmstat -i) No, nothing there: interrupt total rate irq0: clk 184217768100 irq1: atkbd0 554 0 irq4: sio0 31529039 17 irq7: ppc047 0 irq8: rtc 235761929128 irq11: xl0 ohci1 555868535301 irq14: ata0 19980318 10 irq15: ata1169418181 91 Total 1196776371649 Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgprFQ8xDFNpy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 3 April 2005 at 21:43:57 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I'm experiencing similar issues. How can I confirm that this is the case without rebooting the machine (which would be inconvenient)? Is there some sysctl that tells me? I've taken a look, but I don't see anything obvious. sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. There's nothing there that reaches out and grabs me: dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 Not it. You have no acpi_throttle support, thus cpufreq is a no-op on your system. -- Nate ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sunday, 3 April 2005 at 21:59:45 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 3 April 2005 at 21:43:57 -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I'm experiencing similar issues. How can I confirm that this is the case without rebooting the machine (which would be inconvenient)? Is there some sysctl that tells me? I've taken a look, but I don't see anything obvious. sysctl dev.cpu and look at the current frequency setting. There's nothing there that reaches out and grabs me: dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 Not it. You have no acpi_throttle support, thus cpufreq is a no-op on your system. OK, so it's a different issue that I have? Or does the lack of acpi_throttle support automatically cause a problem? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp1hrnznJaWQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? Not quite as dramatic here, but when, say, the firefox source gets untarred, my machine becomes quite unresponsive, including audio decoding (xmms) stuttering and the mouse cursor jumping around. Haven't seen the likes since the 486 days. This is 5.4-PRERELEASE on a P4 3GHz. Perhaps some badly balanced scheduler stuff? mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 04:33:49AM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote: Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Since I upgraded from 5.3-stable to 5.4-prerelease, I've noticed that my computer is hanging badly under load. I've a P4 2.53 GHz without hyperthreading (no SMP). I use the same kernel configurations than before. Now when I compile a port for example, the mouse pointer hangs in Fluxbox and Mozilla takes forever (meaning ~5 sec) to refresh the screen. Even vi hangs. I do not see any warning/error message. Is it a known problem with 5.4? Not quite as dramatic here, but when, say, the firefox source gets untarred, my machine becomes quite unresponsive, including audio decoding (xmms) stuttering and the mouse cursor jumping around. Haven't seen the likes since the 486 days. This is 5.4-PRERELEASE on a P4 3GHz. Perhaps some badly balanced scheduler stuff? You both forgot to mention which scheduler ;-) Kris pgpyl7SA9ofnP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Kris Kennaway wrote: You both forgot to mention which scheduler ;-) Uhm, how should I know? The default thingy, I haven't changed anything. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 07:00:35AM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: You both forgot to mention which scheduler ;-) Uhm, how should I know? Check your kernel config. The default thingy, I haven't changed anything. SCHED_4BSD, then. Kris pgpxzgu1YCV8G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Kris Kennaway wrote: Check your kernel config. SCHED_4BSD, then. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler yes. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
Matthias Buelow wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Check your kernel config. SCHED_4BSD, then. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler yes. mkb. I have this option too. Do I have to change it for something else? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.4-prerelease - hanging under load
On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 12:22:30AM -0500, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: Matthias Buelow wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: Check your kernel config. SCHED_4BSD, then. options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler yes. mkb. I have this option too. Do I have to change it for something else? No, but it's important to know to complete the bug report. Kris pgpBtGg1Qiwi1.pgp Description: PGP signature
