Re: Help! My laptop drive may be dying.
Thanks for everyone's responses. Given that this drive may well be lying in its SMART registers, I've just ordered a new drive. Newer IBM/Lenovo machines appear to complain if you don't use Hitachi GST drives, so I ordered one of those to be on the safe side, as well as to preserve the resale value. I note with keen interest that a number of laptop warranties don't cover the drive. Fingers crossed it'll arrive tommorrow. Thanks again... BMS ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! My laptop drive may be dying.
At 09:43 AM 7/22/2007, Bruce M Simpson wrote: I ran SMART diagnostics from smartmontools, and Samsung's own diag tools which all report the drive is OK (a full captive surface test). I see nothing untoward in the SMART info pages. Hi Bruce, These symptoms (the OS reporting errors, the drive saying all A-OK) remind me of a bad cable/connector. Have you tried a new cable ? ---Mike ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! My laptop drive may be dying.
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: MT At 09:43 AM 7/22/2007, Bruce M Simpson wrote: MT I ran SMART diagnostics from smartmontools, and Samsung's own diag tools MT which all report the drive is OK (a full captive surface test). I see MT nothing untoward in the SMART info pages. MT MT Hi Bruce, MT These symptoms (the OS reporting errors, the drive saying all A-OK) MT remind me of a bad cable/connector. Have you tried a new cable ? Hmm, in a laptop? ;) Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! My laptop drive may be dying.
MT Hi Bruce, MT These symptoms (the OS reporting errors, the drive saying all A-OK) MT remind me of a bad cable/connector. Have you tried a new cable ? Hmm, in a laptop? ;) I've had a similar problem with a Dell notebook. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the hard drive (in fact, nothing wrong with either of the two drives I've put in there) but it does appear the controller is rather broken. Since this started happening just out of warranty, it didn't seem worth the cost to repair it. Besides, since the notebook is typically sitting on a docking station, my better half doesn't mind booting FreeBSD by NFS. Perhaps not practical in your situation however. Of course, I did have the problem of having to pry the Vista license from her terrified hands at first... One other thing I will mention however, is the problems with this notebook got so severe that although symptoms were almost identical to yours at first, eventually even Windows refused to tolerate it any longer and packed it in. -- Regards, Paul Fraser // Independent Technical Consultant // Ph: +61 405 341 905 // furyc0de.net This correspondence and any related attachments are confidential. Distribution, reproduction, or release (public domain or otherwise) without the author's prior written consent is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. Failure to distribute any of the aforementioned without this footer (intact and unmodified) is also STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. Failure to abide by these terms and conditions can result in legal action. If you have received this correspondance in error, or believe any of these terms have been breached, you are requested to contact the author immediately and take steps to destroy all copies in your possession. PGP KeyID: 0x64E635B1 Keyserver: pgp.mit.edu:11371 Key fingerprint: CDA3 0797 68B9 0EC1 D4D3 A7B9 D7D7 4924 64E6 35B1 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! My laptop drive may be dying.
Bruce M Simpson wrote: Hi, My laptop drive might be dying. It is a Samsung MP0804H which I have used for around 28 months without issue. Every now and then it will click and sound as though it is thermally recalibrating itself. I ran SMART diagnostics from smartmontools, and Samsung's own diag tools which all report the drive is OK (a full captive surface test). I see nothing untoward in the SMART info pages. Well, sounds like the drive is indeed dying, recalibrating noises like that is a bad sign, its most likely having real trouble reading certain areas of the medium. If your SMART output tells anything about read retries or number of remaps that could be an indicator of upcoming problems, however not all drives has that info in the SMART pages. In the real world scenario SMART can only tell you about the problem when the drive has given up on the data, there is almost newer any real prewarns to failure. Whilst Windows is able to tolerate the retrying of ATA commands which this click appears to be inducing, FreeBSD can easily get sick and just hang, which majorly gets in the way of real work. Depends on whats happening, you could try to up the timeout in ata-disk.c and see if it survives the errors that way, to at least try to save the data before its too late. -Søren ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! My laptop drive may be dying.
At 04:59 PM 7/22/2007, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Mike Tancsa wrote: OK) MT remind me of a bad cable/connector. Have you tried a new cable ? Hmm, in a laptop? ;) Details :) Dirty or weak connection point ? If the controller was working well up until this point, it doesnt sound like a driver bug. ---Mike ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
