Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-19 Thread Ivan Voras
On 11/02/2013 12:23, Panagiotis Christias wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on an IBM x3550 M3 server.
 Installation went smoothly, RAID controller and network cards were
 successfully recognised.

How stable is it? I may have a problem manifesting in random reboots
with a similar machine.



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Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-12 Thread Panagiotis Christias
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:54:25AM +0200, John Alex. wrote:
 
 On 02/12/2013 02:59 AM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:43:55AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Panagiotis Christias
  p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:
 
  I suppose trying an 8.3 installation would be the easiest way to use MBR
  instead of GPT, right;
 
  That would do it, but 9.1 is perfectly happy doing MBR. It's just not
  the default.
 
  Seems like many BIOSes assume that GPT=uEFI. Clearly this is silly, but...
 
  I know Lenovo laptops have this problem and it is VERY annoying. I run
  FreeBSD on a GPT disk on my ThinkPad, but I have booteasy installed on
  an MBR disk (which contains W7) and my BIOS is set to boot from that
  disk.BootEasy then will boot up the GPT disk with FreeBSD.
 
  Doesn't GPT start with an MBR covering the entire disk? How feasible would
  it be to tweak that MBR so that a boot partition was listed in it? Say, a
  partition holding the root filesystem could be listed in both the GPT and
  MBR style. Then a disk could be booted with MBR or GPT at the whim of the
  firmware.
 
  I agree that this BIOS=MBR/UEFI=GPT assumption is pure rubbish. I've got
  machines with this documented restriction and I'd love a way around it.
 
 
 It is feasible, it's known as a hybrid MBR. On Linux I've accomplished 
 this using the gdisk utility, I don't know how it can be done on FreeBSD 
 though. I had to use this ugly solution in order to install windows 8 on 
 a GPT disk on a pc without UEFI support.

Just for the record, I managed to install successfully 8.3 with the
default options and 9.1 by selecting MBR instead of GPT during the
initial disk patitioning. In both cases the system's UEFI/BIOS options
were left untouched.

Thanks for the help,
Panagiotis

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p.christ...@noc.ntua.grNational Technical Univ. of Athens, GREECE
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Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:23:53 +0200
Panagiotis Christias p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on an IBM x3550 M3 server.
 Installation went smoothly, RAID controller and network cards were
 successfully recognised.
 
 But, after the installation, the server fails to boot from disk.
 There were some posts, about two years ago, in this list implying
 that the problem lies in UEFI but I couldn't find any clear
 solution.
 
I do not know if this is the same problem I face on my notebook but it
currently does not boot when I use GPT. Can you give a MBR partitioned
disk a try?

My notebook was earlier booting from a GPT disk. I cannot remember why
I used MBR for the new disk.

Erich
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Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread Panagiotis Christias

On 11/2/2013 14:11, Erich Dollansky wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:23:53 +0200
Panagiotis Christias p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:


Hello,

I'm trying to install FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on an IBM x3550 M3 server.
Installation went smoothly, RAID controller and network cards were
successfully recognised.

But, after the installation, the server fails to boot from disk.
There were some posts, about two years ago, in this list implying
that the problem lies in UEFI but I couldn't find any clear
solution.


I do not know if this is the same problem I face on my notebook but it
currently does not boot when I use GPT. Can you give a MBR partitioned
disk a try?

My notebook was earlier booting from a GPT disk. I cannot remember why
I used MBR for the new disk.


Hello,

I suppose trying an 8.3 installation would be the easiest way to use MBR 
instead of GPT, right;


Thanks,
Panagiotis

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p.christ...@noc.ntua.grNational Technical Univ. of Athens, GREECE
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Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Panagiotis Christias
p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:
 On 11/2/2013 14:11, Erich Dollansky wrote:

 Hi,

 On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:23:53 +0200
 Panagiotis Christias p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on an IBM x3550 M3 server.
 Installation went smoothly, RAID controller and network cards were
 successfully recognised.

 But, after the installation, the server fails to boot from disk.
 There were some posts, about two years ago, in this list implying
 that the problem lies in UEFI but I couldn't find any clear
 solution.

 I do not know if this is the same problem I face on my notebook but it
 currently does not boot when I use GPT. Can you give a MBR partitioned
 disk a try?

 My notebook was earlier booting from a GPT disk. I cannot remember why
 I used MBR for the new disk.


 Hello,

 I suppose trying an 8.3 installation would be the easiest way to use MBR
 instead of GPT, right;

That would do it, but 9.1 is perfectly happy doing MBR. It's just not
the default.

Seems like many BIOSes assume that GPT=uEFI. Clearly this is silly, but...

I know Lenovo laptops have this problem and it is VERY annoying. I run
FreeBSD on a GPT disk on my ThinkPad, but I have booteasy installed on
an MBR disk (which contains W7) and my BIOS is set to boot from that
disk.BootEasy then will boot up the GPT disk with FreeBSD.
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E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com
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Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:58:41 +0200
Panagiotis Christias p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:

 On 11/2/2013 14:11, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:23:53 +0200
  Panagiotis Christias p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm trying to install FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on an IBM x3550 M3 server.
  Installation went smoothly, RAID controller and network cards were
  successfully recognised.
 
  But, after the installation, the server fails to boot from disk.
  There were some posts, about two years ago, in this list implying
  that the problem lies in UEFI but I couldn't find any clear
  solution.
 
  I do not know if this is the same problem I face on my notebook but
  it currently does not boot when I use GPT. Can you give a MBR
  partitioned disk a try?
 
  My notebook was earlier booting from a GPT disk. I cannot remember
  why I used MBR for the new disk.
 
 Hello,
 
 I suppose trying an 8.3 installation would be the easiest way to use
 MBR instead of GPT, right;
 
I run 10 with MBR. It is only a matter of telling either the
installation programm or gpart what to do.

Erich
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Re: Installing FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 on IBM x3550 M3

2013-02-11 Thread John Alex.


On 02/12/2013 02:59 AM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote:

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:43:55AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote:

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Panagiotis Christias
p.christ...@noc.ntua.gr wrote:


I suppose trying an 8.3 installation would be the easiest way to use MBR
instead of GPT, right;


That would do it, but 9.1 is perfectly happy doing MBR. It's just not
the default.

Seems like many BIOSes assume that GPT=uEFI. Clearly this is silly, but...

I know Lenovo laptops have this problem and it is VERY annoying. I run
FreeBSD on a GPT disk on my ThinkPad, but I have booteasy installed on
an MBR disk (which contains W7) and my BIOS is set to boot from that
disk.BootEasy then will boot up the GPT disk with FreeBSD.


Doesn't GPT start with an MBR covering the entire disk? How feasible would
it be to tweak that MBR so that a boot partition was listed in it? Say, a
partition holding the root filesystem could be listed in both the GPT and
MBR style. Then a disk could be booted with MBR or GPT at the whim of the
firmware.

I agree that this BIOS=MBR/UEFI=GPT assumption is pure rubbish. I've got
machines with this documented restriction and I'd love a way around it.



It is feasible, it's known as a hybrid MBR. On Linux I've accomplished 
this using the gdisk utility, I don't know how it can be done on FreeBSD 
though. I had to use this ugly solution in order to install windows 8 on 
a GPT disk on a pc without UEFI support.

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