Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-15 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, December 09, 2011 10:05:49 am Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 
 On 12/9/11 10:13 AM, Brett Glass wrote:
  FreeBSD 9.0-RC3 is looking good, but I'm still encountering two problems.
  
  Firstly, when I try to configure VLANs in /etc/rc.conf, I'm getting
  errors. For example, if I use
  
  vlans_re0=1 2
  ip_addrs_re0_1=192.168.0.1-4/16
  ip_addrs_re0_2=10.0.0.0/24
  
  to create two VLANs on the interface re0, I get error messages saying
  that create commands (presumably using ifconfig) have failed. The
  interfaces SEEM to be configured correctly, but the messages -- which
  must be coming from scripts called by /etc/netstart -- are troubling.
  
  Secondly, there's still some strangeness in the sc terminal emulation.
  When I run jove, the status line at the bottom of the screen isn't
  entirely in reverse video as it should be. Only parts of it are, and the
  highlighting changes -- seemingly at random -- as I work.
  
  Neither of these is likely to be a showstopper (so long as the first
  won't cause me networking problems I haven't observed yet), but both are
  probably worth looking into.
  
 
 
 I have never seen this way of configuring VLANs.

It's new.  I added it in the last year or so to match the way wlan devices
are created.  It also can do sane things like auto-destroy associated vlans
when a device is stopped, etc.  However, I have not tested them with 
/etc/netstart.  They do work fine during a normal startup.  I can't see 
obvious reasons as to why they would fail though via /etc/netstart.

The stuff that handles vlans_if will auto-load if_vlan.ko if it is needed,
but perhaps that isn't working from single user mode when using /etc/netstart?

Also, do the vlans work fine if you let a box boot normally?

-- 
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-13 Thread Ben Kaduk
On 12/11/11, Brett Glass br...@lariat.net wrote:
 At 11:36 AM 12/11/2011, Ben Kaduk wrote:

Did you take the change to /etc/ttys going from cons25 to xterm 'type'?

 I didn't have to change it; it was that way when the OS was installed.


You were sending to -stable, so I wasn't sure.  Thanks for confirming.

 Problem seems to be that the behavior (specifically, reverse video on the
 25th line) doesn't quite match the xterm termcap entry.

If I remember correctly, your original message mentioned seeing this
issue in emacs; have you tried reproducing it in a simpler test case?
Maybe something like:
(for i in $(jot 25); do echo; tput mr; echo -n reverse; tput me;
echo -n  regular; done)  sleep 1

That would presumably help narrow down the issue.

-Ben Kaduk
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Schouten
* Ben Kaduk minimar...@gmail.com, 20111213 20:34:
  Problem seems to be that the behavior (specifically, reverse video on the
  25th line) doesn't quite match the xterm termcap entry.
 
 If I remember correctly, your original message mentioned seeing this
 issue in emacs; have you tried reproducing it in a simpler test case?

Well, I don't care whether the test case is small or large, as long as I
know how to reproduce it. I have never used jove before, so what kind of
buttons should I press to get the artifacts?

Does it only happen on the console, or also when using a regular xterm?

Thanks,
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-13 Thread Brett Glass
At 12:34 PM 12/13/2011, Ben Kaduk wrote:
 
If I remember correctly, your original message mentioned seeing this
issue in emacs; have you tried reproducing it in a simpler test case?

No; when we hit the bug, we moved to SSH with a VT100 emulator so that
we could configure the system. But the system console really should work
as well. I expect to be configuring another system this evening and will
try the script fragment you sent.

--Brett

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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-13 Thread Brett Glass
At 01:23 PM 12/13/2011, Ed Schouten wrote:
 
Well, I don't care whether the test case is small or large, as long as I
know how to reproduce it. I have never used jove before, so what kind of
buttons should I press to get the artifacts?

Just start inserting text, deleting characters and lines (Ctrl-D and Ctrl-K),
etc. It's very obvious.

Does it only happen on the console, or also when using a regular xterm?

I do not use regular xterms, so I can't answer that, alas.

--Brett Glass

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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-13 Thread Benjamin Kaduk

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011, Brett Glass wrote:


At 12:34 PM 12/13/2011, Ben Kaduk wrote:


If I remember correctly, your original message mentioned seeing this
issue in emacs; have you tried reproducing it in a simpler test case?


No; when we hit the bug, we moved to SSH with a VT100 emulator so that
we could configure the system. But the system console really should work
as well. I expect to be configuring another system this evening and will


Definitely!  I use the system console pretty regularly, but I just haven't 
gotten a chance to pull my laptop up to an RC or -current, recently, so I 
can't test it myself.



try the script fragment you sent.


Thanks.  (It turns out one has to consult terminfo(5) to figure out what 
attributes to pass in to tput; it might be worth adding an EXAMPLES 
section to tput(1).)


-Ben
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-13 Thread Ed Schouten
Hi Brett,

* Brett Glass br...@lariat.net, 20111214 03:51:
 Just start inserting text, deleting characters and lines (Ctrl-D and
 Ctrl-K), etc. It's very obvious.

That's odd. I've just spent some time deleting huge portions of
/etc/services and on my system it doesn't seem to do this.

Maybe you can do the following:

- run script -t 0 ~/log jove ...
- Delete characters
- As soon as possible as jove starts to misbehave and the screen
  contents are wrong, run `killall -9 script'
- Send me the log

Thanks,
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-11 Thread Johan Hendriks

Jeremy Chadwick schreef:

On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:30:43AM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:

At 03:10 AM 12/9/2011, Johan Hendriks wrote:


After a /etc/netstart, i get the following:
ifconfig: create: bad value.

I get the create: bad value messages as well. What's more, if I
change rc.conf to assign variables of the form ifconfig_*, such as

ifconfig_re0_1=inet 192.168.0.1
ifconfig_re0_1_alias0=inet 192.168.0.2
...

instead of using an ip_addrs_* variable, I still get those messages.

I have confirmed that if I run /etc/netstart after booting, I lose
connectivity just as you do.

I recognize the challenge of specifying the network configuration in
a declaratory rather than a procedural environment, because there
are so many contingencies and possible combinations of parameters.
But there doesn't seem to be any combination of variables I can
assign in rc.conf that doesn't cause errors when I try to create
VLANs.

I would advise everyone experiencing those messages or any anomalies
of this sort to please set rc_debug=yes in /etc/rc.conf and make sure
they have serial or firewire console set up.  If you don't have some
form of remote console, then this is going to be difficult to debug.
See rc.conf(5) for what the option does and therefore why serial console
will be needed.

The information that's needed is what ifconfig commands are being issued
on your systems.  This cannot be easily determined from rc.conf variables
like ifconfig_snakes_in_the_grass=rocks moss, hence the above request.

Your means Brett Glass and Johan Hendriks.

Finally, please keep in mind the possibility that both of you are
experiencing different problems.  I have no evidence at this point to
support or refute that claim, but it's something that needs to be
considered.

Ok did some test on the backup machine, i must do it remotely, so no 
serial access.


Lagg0 consist of two interfaces em0 and em1.
The machine booted with the following in /etc/rc.conf, and all is fine 
this way.


ifconfig_em0=up
ifconfig_em1=up
cloned_interfaces=lagg0
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 192.168.100.1/24


I changed the ip adress from 192.168.100.1 to 192.168.100.2 in 
/etc/rc.conf, and added rc_debug=yes

ifconfig_em0=up
ifconfig_em1=up
cloned_interfaces=lagg0
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 192.168.100.2/24

I did a /etc/netstart
nas01-bw ~ # /etc/netstart
/etc/rc.d/devd: DEBUG: checkyesno: devd_enable is set to YES.
devd already running? (pid=1767).
/etc/rc.d/hostid: DEBUG: checkyesno: hostid_enable is set to YES.
/etc/rc.d/hostid: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: hostid_start
/etc/rc.d/hostid: DEBUG: checkyesno: rc_startmsgs is set to YES.
Setting hostuuid: 9abf4e13-9a77-b31d-9a77-b31d9fbfee13.
/etc/rc.d/hostid: DEBUG: checkyesno: rc_startmsgs is set to YES.
Setting hostid: 0xf505f6a8.
/etc/rc.d/hostname: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: hostname_start
/etc/rc.d/ipmon: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipmon_enable is set to NO.
/etc/rc.d/ipfilter: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipfilter_enable is set to NO.
/etc/rc.d/ipnat: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipnat_enable is set to NO.
/etc/rc.d/ipfs: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipfs_enable is set to NO.
/etc/rc.d/sppp: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: sppp_start
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: run_rc_command: doit: network_start
ifconfig: create: bad value
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: Cloned:
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.

ifconfig: SIOCSLAGGPORT: Device busy
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces is set 
to NO.

Starting Network: lo0 em0 em1 bge0 pflog0 pfsync0 lagg0.
/etc/rc.d/netif: DEBUG: checkyesno: rc_startmsgs is set to YES.
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xe
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
nd6 options=21PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=219bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,WOL_MAGIC

ether 00:1b:21:d4:77:fb
inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:fed4:77fb%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex)
status: active
em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=219bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,WOL_MAGIC

ether 00:1b:21:d4:77:fb
inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:fed4:749b%em1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
nd6 

Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-11 Thread Ben Kaduk
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Brett Glass br...@lariat.net wrote:
 Secondly, there's still some strangeness in the sc terminal emulation. When
 I run jove, the status line at the bottom of the screen isn't entirely in
 reverse video as it should be. Only parts of it are, and the highlighting
 changes -- seemingly at random -- as I work.

Did you take the change to /etc/ttys going from cons25 to xterm 'type'?

-Ben Kaduk
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-11 Thread Brett Glass
At 11:36 AM 12/11/2011, Ben Kaduk wrote:
 
Did you take the change to /etc/ttys going from cons25 to xterm 'type'?

I didn't have to change it; it was that way when the OS was installed.

Problem seems to be that the behavior (specifically, reverse video on the
25th line) doesn't quite match the xterm termcap entry.

--Brett

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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Johan Hendriks

Brett Glass schreef:
The interfaces SEEM to be configured correctly, but the messages -- 
which must be coming from scripts called by /etc/netstart -- are 
troubling.


Same thing happens with lagg0

If i use this config, after a reboot all is fine

ifconfig_em0=up
ifconfig_em1=up
cloned_interfaces=lagg0
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 192.168.100.1/24

After a /etc/netstart, i get the following:
ifconfig: create: bad value.

devd already running? (pid=1767).
Setting hostuuid: 9abf4e13-9a77-b31d-9a77-b31d9fbfee13.
Setting hostid: 0xf505f6a8.
ifconfig: create: bad value
ifconfig: SIOCSLAGGPORT: Device busy
Starting Network: lo0 em0 em1 bge0 pflog0 pfsync0 lagg0.

snip
lagg0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=219bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,WOL_MAGIC

ether 00:1b:21:d4:77:fb
inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255
inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:fed4:77fb%lagg0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xf
nd6 options=29PERFORMNUD,IFDISABLED,AUTO_LINKLOCAL
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: active
laggproto lacp
laggport: em1 flags=0
laggport: em0 flags=0
add net default: gateway 192.168.1.254

To get rid off the bad value notice, i need the following in /etc/rc.conf
comment cloned_interfaces and add create to ifconfig.

ifconfig_em0=up
ifconfig_em1=up
#cloned_interfaces=lagg0
ifconfig_lagg0=create laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 
192.168.100.1/24


This way no error, but i do not know if the lagg interface works that way!
I got some issues with the setting the ipaddress and so on, i do not 
remeber it exactly! it happend last week.

The machine was a production machine, and can not be offline for too long.
So i changed things back to the first config and rebooted the machine.
That way everything is fine.
But /etc/netstart does not works for the lagg0 interface.

regards,
Johan Hendriks



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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 12/9/11 11:10 AM, Johan Hendriks wrote:
 Brett Glass schreef:
 The interfaces SEEM to be configured correctly, but the messages --
 which must be coming from scripts called by /etc/netstart -- are
 troubling.
 
 Same thing happens with lagg0
 
 If i use this config, after a reboot all is fine
 
 ifconfig_em0=up
 ifconfig_em1=up
 cloned_interfaces=lagg0
 ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 192.168.100.1/24
 

I notice you're missing inet in your ifconfig_lagg0 line.

Try this one instead:
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 inet
192.168.100.1/24

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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 12/9/11 10:13 AM, Brett Glass wrote:
 FreeBSD 9.0-RC3 is looking good, but I'm still encountering two problems.
 
 Firstly, when I try to configure VLANs in /etc/rc.conf, I'm getting
 errors. For example, if I use
 
 vlans_re0=1 2
 ip_addrs_re0_1=192.168.0.1-4/16
 ip_addrs_re0_2=10.0.0.0/24
 
 to create two VLANs on the interface re0, I get error messages saying
 that create commands (presumably using ifconfig) have failed. The
 interfaces SEEM to be configured correctly, but the messages -- which
 must be coming from scripts called by /etc/netstart -- are troubling.
 
 Secondly, there's still some strangeness in the sc terminal emulation.
 When I run jove, the status line at the bottom of the screen isn't
 entirely in reverse video as it should be. Only parts of it are, and the
 highlighting changes -- seemingly at random -- as I work.
 
 Neither of these is likely to be a showstopper (so long as the first
 won't cause me networking problems I haven't observed yet), but both are
 probably worth looking into.
 


I have never seen this way of configuring VLANs.

Find below how I set them up on our firewalls, which works like a charm,
but on 8.2.

You may still want to give it a try on 9.0RC3, that might solve your
problem.



### NETWORKING

# Configure link aggregation
ifconfig_bce0=up
ifconfig_bce1=up
ifconfig_em0=up
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto failover laggport bce0 laggport bce1 laggport em0
cloned_interfaces=lagg0 vlan14 vlan24 vlan34 carp14 carp24 carp34


# VLAN14 - WAN
ifconfig_vlan14=inet [snip] vlan 14 vlandev lagg0 up

# VLAN24 - DMZ
ifconfig_vlan24=inet 192.168.24.252/24 vlan 24 vlandev lagg0 up

# VLAN34 - LAN
ifconfig_vlan34=inet 192.168.34.252/24 vlan 34 vlandev lagg0 up

# VLAN 611 - VPNs
ifconfig_vlan611=inet 10.106.11.252/24 vlan 611 vlandev lagg0 up

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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Johan Hendriks

Damien Fleuriot schreef:


On 12/9/11 11:10 AM, Johan Hendriks wrote:

Brett Glass schreef:

The interfaces SEEM to be configured correctly, but the messages --
which must be coming from scripts called by /etc/netstart -- are
troubling.

Same thing happens with lagg0

If i use this config, after a reboot all is fine

ifconfig_em0=up
ifconfig_em1=up
cloned_interfaces=lagg0
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 192.168.100.1/24


I notice you're missing inet in your ifconfig_lagg0 line.

Try this one instead:
ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto lacp laggport em0 laggport em1 inet
192.168.100.1/24

It should not be the case, at least the handbook does not mentioning it 
at all.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html

I will try it, when i find a reboot window!

regards,
Johan Hendriks


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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Brett Glass

At 03:10 AM 12/9/2011, Johan Hendriks wrote:


After a /etc/netstart, i get the following:
ifconfig: create: bad value.


I get the create: bad value messages as well. What's more, if I 
change rc.conf to assign variables of the form ifconfig_*, such as


ifconfig_re0_1=inet 192.168.0.1
ifconfig_re0_1_alias0=inet 192.168.0.2
...

instead of using an ip_addrs_* variable, I still get those messages.

I have confirmed that if I run /etc/netstart after booting, I lose 
connectivity just as you do.


I recognize the challenge of specifying the network configuration 
in a declaratory rather than a procedural environment, because 
there are so many contingencies and possible combinations of 
parameters. But there doesn't seem to be any combination of 
variables I can assign in rc.conf that doesn't cause errors when I 
try to create VLANs.


--Brett Glass

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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 9 Dec 2011, at 18:30, Brett Glass br...@lariat.net wrote:

 At 03:10 AM 12/9/2011, Johan Hendriks wrote:
 
 After a /etc/netstart, i get the following:
 ifconfig: create: bad value.
 
 I get the create: bad value messages as well. What's more, if I change 
 rc.conf to assign variables of the form ifconfig_*, such as
 
 ifconfig_re0_1=inet 192.168.0.1
 ifconfig_re0_1_alias0=inet 192.168.0.2
 ...
 
 instead of using an ip_addrs_* variable, I still get those messages.
 
 I have confirmed that if I run /etc/netstart after booting, I lose 
 connectivity just as you do.
 
 I recognize the challenge of specifying the network configuration in a 
 declaratory rather than a procedural environment, because there are so many 
 contingencies and possible combinations of parameters. But there doesn't seem 
 to be any combination of variables I can assign in rc.conf that doesn't cause 
 errors when I try to create VLANs.
 
 --Brett Glass
 


Try creating your VLANs as I described on my previous post and see if that 
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Re: Two problems still present in RC3

2011-12-09 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 10:30:43AM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
 At 03:10 AM 12/9/2011, Johan Hendriks wrote:
 
 After a /etc/netstart, i get the following:
 ifconfig: create: bad value.
 
 I get the create: bad value messages as well. What's more, if I
 change rc.conf to assign variables of the form ifconfig_*, such as
 
 ifconfig_re0_1=inet 192.168.0.1
 ifconfig_re0_1_alias0=inet 192.168.0.2
 ...
 
 instead of using an ip_addrs_* variable, I still get those messages.
 
 I have confirmed that if I run /etc/netstart after booting, I lose
 connectivity just as you do.
 
 I recognize the challenge of specifying the network configuration in
 a declaratory rather than a procedural environment, because there
 are so many contingencies and possible combinations of parameters.
 But there doesn't seem to be any combination of variables I can
 assign in rc.conf that doesn't cause errors when I try to create
 VLANs.

I would advise everyone experiencing those messages or any anomalies
of this sort to please set rc_debug=yes in /etc/rc.conf and make sure
they have serial or firewire console set up.  If you don't have some
form of remote console, then this is going to be difficult to debug.
See rc.conf(5) for what the option does and therefore why serial console
will be needed.

The information that's needed is what ifconfig commands are being issued
on your systems.  This cannot be easily determined from rc.conf variables
like ifconfig_snakes_in_the_grass=rocks moss, hence the above request.

Your means Brett Glass and Johan Hendriks.

Finally, please keep in mind the possibility that both of you are
experiencing different problems.  I have no evidence at this point to
support or refute that claim, but it's something that needs to be
considered.

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