Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Almost there!

2006-03-20 Thread Peter Jeremy
As mentioned, this belongs on freebsd-qyestions, not freebsd-stable.
Also, could you please keep your questions as a single thread - it
makes it much easier to follow.

On Mon, 2006-Mar-20 18:43:04 -0600, Benjamin Sher wrote:
>FreeBS/i386 boot
>Default: 1: ad (1,a) default
>No /boot/kernel/kernel
>
>Then
>
>Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel
>boot: default No default

This looks like your install didn't work correctly.  When you installed
FreeBSD, did you "use entire disk" on ad1 for FreeBSD?  If not, exactly
how did you configure ad1?

If you boot into the live filesystem shell, can you
# mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt

If so, what does "ls -l /boot" report?

If not, please provide the output of "fdisk ad1" and "disklabel ad1sX"
(where "X" is the partition that has a sysid of 165).

>By the way, for future reference, what boot manager should I choose next
>time I install FreeBSD? Lilo? Grub? If so, where is the option for
>installing it?

I've never seen any reason to move away from MBR.  If you want to use
LILO or Grub, you will need to install and configure it yourself -
google should find a tutorial.

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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Almost there!

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:04 -0600
> From: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Dear Kevin:
> 
> You sure know your stuff, Kevin. No question about it. I am almost 
> there. The only problem is that when I boot up to the new FreeBSD system 
> (CD unselected and hardrive selected in boot sequence), I get a kind of 
> login that says:
> 
> FreeBS/i386 boot
> Default: 1: ad (1,a) default
> No /boot/kernel/kernel
> 
> Then
> 
> Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel
> boot: default No default
> 
> There are no root hash marks or whatever. It's just as it appears above.
> 
> What does this mean, please?
> 
> By the way, I checked my Windows. Everything is fine.

Lots of folks know this stuff a lot better than I do.

Let me get this clear. You start the boot and get the:
F1  DOS
F5  Drive 1

Default: F1 

You press F5. Do you see this? Or the loader prompt noted in your message?
F1  FreeBSD
F5  Drive 0

Default: F1

The loader prompt is telling you that the loader is not finding your
kernel. Did you transcribe the second message exactly? Is there really a
space after the first slash?

Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel
or is it really
Default: 1:ad(1,a)/boot/kernel/kernel

Try entering:
1:ad(1,a)/boot/loader

This is what SHOULD be the default.

I fear that something in your FreeBSD installation is broken, but I am
not sure what.

I am going off-line for the night, so I won't see any further messages
until tomorrow morning. 

By the way, the date on your messages are wrong.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:04 -0600 (16:43 PST)
PST is -0800, not -0600.  I received the message at 15:40:50 -0800 (PST).
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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:44:28 -0500
> From: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Dear Kevin:
> 
> Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is
> the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step
> instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Benjamin
> >
> > To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the
> > holographic shell. At that point, enter the command:
> > boot0cfg -B ad0
> >
> > That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but
> > this is the first one I thought of for your situation.
> >   

Oops! I really meant the live file system. It is available on the
FreeBSD installation CD. It gives you a shell on the system.

Boot the installation CD
Select "Fixit"
Select "2 CDROM/DVD"
At the prompt, enter the boot0cfg command.
Type exit to return to sysinstall
Exit sysinstall to reboot the system
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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!

2006-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Benjamin Sher wrote:

Dear Kevin:

Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is
the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step
instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery.

Thank you again.

Benjamin


To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the
holographic shell. At that point, enter the command:
boot0cfg -B ad0

That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but
this is the first one I thought of for your situation.
Or go to http://gag.sourceforge.net, download that boot manager and 
install it via floppydisk or cd, it's easy and effective.


You can't do anything wrong with that one.
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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!

2006-03-20 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Kevin:

Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is
the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step
instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery.

Thank you again.

Benjamin


To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the
holographic shell. At that point, enter the command:
boot0cfg -B ad0

That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but
this is the first one I thought of for your situation.
  



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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Addendum

2006-03-20 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Monday 20 March 2006 04:44 pm, Benjamin Sher wrote:
> Dear friends:
>
> I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years
> old. It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard
> disks. The only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's
> why I need the boot manager solution.

You have to install boot manager on both disks.

Jung-uk Kim

> Thank you again.
>
> Benjamin
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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:43:25 -0500
> From: Benjamin Sher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Dear friends:
> 
> I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the
> FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but
> after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect
> installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got
> into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of
> FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into
> my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only
> caused my system to boot into Windows XP.
> 
> I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly
> that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see
> any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while
> installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that
> all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see
> Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either
> FreeBSD or Windows?
> 
> I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD
> for the first time.

This is really more appropriate to questions, but I'll make some
suggestions that might get you going.

Just to clarify, this assumes that you have 2 physical disk drives, one
containing Windows and one containing FreeBSD and that Windows is
installed on the first drive and FreeBSD on the second.

When you installed FreeBSD, you installed the FreeBSD boot Manager on
the second hard drive, but the bootstrap on the first drive still has
the standard MBR. As a result, it simply boots Windows.

There are several solutions available. The easiest is to just put the
FreeBSD boot manager on the first drive. If you do this, you will get a
prompt when you boot that looks like:
F1  DOS
F5  Other Disk

At this point, you can press either F1 for Windows and F5 to boot the
next disk. Pressing F5 will give you
F1  FreeBSD
F5  Other Disk

At this point, you can press F1 to boot FreeBSD or F5 to go back to the
first disk. 

The FreeBSD Boot Manager is smart in that it remembers a boot and
defaults to that boot on the next bootstrap operation.

To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the
holographic shell. At that point, enter the command:
boot0cfg -B ad0

That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but
this is the first one I thought of for your situation.
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Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!

2006-03-20 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 04:43 PM 20/03/2006, Benjamin Sher wrote:


I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly
that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see
any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while
installing FreeBSD?


Google around for
"Windows xp dual boot freebsd"

and then have a look at

http://bsdwiki.com/wiki/How_to_use_the_WinXP_loader_to_boot_FreeBSD

Also, you should post questions like this to the 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list, not to freebsd-stable.


---Mike 


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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Addendum

2006-03-20 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old.
It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The
only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the
boot manager solution.

Thank you again.

Benjamin

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Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Addendum

2006-03-20 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old. 
It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The 
only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the 
boot manager solution.


Thank you again.

Benjamin
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