Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: KK It is planned to update to a newer ZFS release in HEAD, but this has not KK happened yet (let alone in 7.x). I don't know if it is possible to KK downgrade a pool - you should check the ZFS documentation/support materials. It seems there is no such way; what is worse, it also seems there's no way to create a pool with lower pool version. Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
ZFS On Mac OSX creates zfs v6 pools by default (in order to retain compat with the stock read-only zfs v6 module in 10.5) which work fine with FreeBSD. Just don't upgrade the pool on OS-X after creating it. Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Kris Kennaway wrote: KK It is planned to update to a newer ZFS release in HEAD, but this has not KK happened yet (let alone in 7.x). I don't know if it is possible to KK downgrade a pool - you should check the ZFS documentation/support materials. It seems there is no such way; what is worse, it also seems there's no way to create a pool with lower pool version. Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008, Dillon wrote: D KK happened yet (let alone in 7.x). I don't know if it is possible to D KK downgrade a pool - you should check the ZFS documentation/support D materials. D D It seems there is no such way; what is worse, it also seems there's no way D to create a pool with lower pool version. D ZFS On Mac OSX creates zfs v6 pools by default (in order to retain compat D with the stock read-only zfs v6 module in 10.5) which work fine with FreeBSD. D Just don't upgrade the pool on OS-X after creating it. Ah, that is much better. Thank you for clarifying. Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] [ FreeBSD committer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:40:22PM +1000, Timothy Wilson wrote: Hello everyone, I know -stable is supposed to be, well, stable, but I seem to be in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to import my zfs file system from a Macintosh machine. It was created at version 8. Being new to zfs, I did not realise that FreeBSD would be running at a lower version; I thought zfs was zfs! Of course, trying to import my zpool fails, complaining that the version is too new. freebsd# zpool import bigstore cannot import 'bigstore': pool is formatted using a newer ZFS version So either I want to downgrade the zpool, or upgrade zfs on FreeBSD. Does anyone know if I'll be able to import zfs v8, or am I wasting my time? I'd prefer to follow -stable, but if I must follow -current, then golly goshkins, I'll have no choice! I don't know what the current migration status is of ZFS on FreeBSD to a newer version. I don't think -CURRENT/HEAD has a newer ZFS either, so I think you're out of luck with regards to an easy migration. If I was in your shoes, I would not downgrade the pool -- I would simply stop using ZFS and use a filesystem that is fully compatible between OS X and FreeBSD. *cue someone chiming in with the usual ZFS is experimental on FreeBSD, blah blah blah rhetoric* :-) Summary: you're out of luck. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
Timothy Wilson wrote: Hello everyone, I know -stable is supposed to be, well, stable, but I seem to be in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to import my zfs file system from a Macintosh machine. It was created at version 8. Being new to zfs, I did not realise that FreeBSD would be running at a lower version; I thought zfs was zfs! Of course, trying to import my zpool fails, complaining that the version is too new. freebsd# zpool import bigstore cannot import 'bigstore': pool is formatted using a newer ZFS version So either I want to downgrade the zpool, or upgrade zfs on FreeBSD. Does anyone know if I'll be able to import zfs v8, or am I wasting my time? I'd prefer to follow -stable, but if I must follow -current, then golly goshkins, I'll have no choice! It is planned to update to a newer ZFS release in HEAD, but this has not happened yet (let alone in 7.x). I don't know if it is possible to downgrade a pool - you should check the ZFS documentation/support materials. Kris ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
So either I want to downgrade the zpool, or upgrade zfs on FreeBSD. Does anyone know if I'll be able to import zfs v8, or am I wasting my time? I'd prefer to follow -stable, but if I must follow -current, then golly goshkins, I'll have no choice! I don't know what the current migration status is of ZFS on FreeBSD to a newer version. I don't think -CURRENT/HEAD has a newer ZFS either, so I think you're out of luck with regards to an easy migration. If I was in your shoes, I would not downgrade the pool -- I would simply stop using ZFS and use a filesystem that is fully compatible between OS X and FreeBSD. *cue someone chiming in with the usual ZFS is experimental on FreeBSD, blah blah blah rhetoric* :-) I tried to create a zfs-pool on Solaris and was unable to import it to FreeBSD. So there are still some issues in relation to OS-platform-migrations. But other than that is this not a somewhat pessimistic approach not to try things out? :-) Many years ago (os x 10.0 or 10.1 I think) I tried to create an UFS-volume on os x but this was not recognized by FreeBSD (ver. 4.x). What other fs-type will work between os x and FreeBSD? FAT comes to my mind. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
Timothy Wilson wrote: I'm trying to import my zfs file system from a Macintosh machine. It was created at version 8. Being new to zfs, I did not realise that FreeBSD would be running at a lower version; I thought zfs was zfs! Of course, trying to import my zpool fails, complaining that the version is too new. Have you tried to send a snapshot on you Mac and receive that snapshot on your FreeBSD machine? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS 10u5 05/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
There's nothing you can do right now except for wait. By default the zfs implementation on osx will create a zfs version 6 zpool (to retain compat with the read-only kext that ships with 10.5) but once you've upgraded you can't go back. There is a newer version of zfs for freebsd but it hasn't been commited yet. See http://kerneltrap.org/FreeBSD/BSDCan_2008_ZFS_Internals Your only option is to wait until this is committed or patches are offered at least. pjd is the man so it shouldn't be too long :-) Timothy Wilson wrote: Hello everyone, I know -stable is supposed to be, well, stable, but I seem to be in a bit of a pickle. I'm trying to import my zfs file system from a Macintosh machine. It was created at version 8. Being new to zfs, I did not realise that FreeBSD would be running at a lower version; I thought zfs was zfs! Of course, trying to import my zpool fails, complaining that the version is too new. freebsd# zpool import bigstore cannot import 'bigstore': pool is formatted using a newer ZFS version So either I want to downgrade the zpool, or upgrade zfs on FreeBSD. Does anyone know if I'll be able to import zfs v8, or am I wasting my time? I'd prefer to follow -stable, but if I must follow -current, then golly goshkins, I'll have no choice! Kind regards, Timothy. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
On Jun 13, 2008, at 09:54, Dillon Kass wrote: Your only option is to wait until this is committed or patches are offered at least. pjd is the man so it shouldn't be too long :-) Another option could be to see if you can help with the coding. :) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
