Re: vt console driver and default vga mode: breaking POLA

[Eugene Grosbein]

09.09.2016 20:59, Jan Bramkamp пишет:


I apologise for being late on this, but I just noticed. The new vt console 
driver has a very important
change in behavior, replacing the ancient “BIOS” text mode with a graphic VGA 
mode.

I don’t know how many people relies on BIOS serial redirection for consoles, 
but at least
HP’s iLO system offers the possibility of accessing the console through a ssh 
connection instead
of requiring a bloated Java console, and it’s a very convenient feature. But it 
only works in pure
“BIOS text mode” (the old sc console driver used this mode as a default).

I would rather change the default behavior of vt to hw.vga.textmode=1 so that 
its behavior mimics
the old sc driver.

I know the current fad is to hide boot messages with panda bears and beautiful 
butterflies revolving
around them, but boot messages are critical when diagnosing problems.

I should have chimed in earlier, I know. But anyway it’s a very minor change.




What do you think?


+1



The presence of a ipmi* device could be a good heuristic to select the default 
mode.


"ipmi* device" needs ipmi(4) driver in the GENERIC.
And think of NVIDIA users without ipmi hardware...

Loader menu option would be fine.

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Re: vt console driver and default vga mode: breaking POLA

[Kyle Evans]

On Sep 9, 2016 05:06, "Borja Marcos"  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I apologise for being late on this, but I just noticed. The new vt console
> driver has a very important
> change in behavior, replacing the ancient “BIOS” text mode with a graphic
> VGA mode.
>
> I don’t know how many people relies on BIOS serial redirection for
> consoles, but at least
> HP’s iLO system offers the possibility of accessing the console through a
> ssh connection instead
> of requiring a bloated Java console, and it’s a very convenient feature.
> But it only works in pure
> “BIOS text mode” (the old sc console driver used this mode as a default).
>
> I would rather change the default behavior of vt to hw.vga.textmode=1 so
> that its behavior mimics
> the old sc driver.
>
> I know the current fad is to hide boot messages with panda bears and
> beautiful butterflies revolving
> around them, but boot messages are critical when diagnosing problems.
>
> I should have chimed in earlier, I know. But anyway it’s a very minor
> change.
>
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
>
> Borja.
>
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Hello!

I concur, but for the selfish reason that the graphics mode breaks the 11.0
installer for me completely by default. See:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211876

Thanks,

Kyle Evans
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Re: vt console driver and default vga mode: breaking POLA

[Jan Bramkamp]

On 09/09/16 11:59, Borja Marcos wrote:


Hi

I apologise for being late on this, but I just noticed. The new vt console 
driver has a very important
change in behavior, replacing the ancient “BIOS” text mode with a graphic VGA 
mode.

I don’t know how many people relies on BIOS serial redirection for consoles, 
but at least
HP’s iLO system offers the possibility of accessing the console through a ssh 
connection instead
of requiring a bloated Java console, and it’s a very convenient feature. But it 
only works in pure
“BIOS text mode” (the old sc console driver used this mode as a default).

I would rather change the default behavior of vt to hw.vga.textmode=1 so that 
its behavior mimics
the old sc driver.

I know the current fad is to hide boot messages with panda bears and beautiful 
butterflies revolving
around them, but boot messages are critical when diagnosing problems.

I should have chimed in earlier, I know. But anyway it’s a very minor change.




What do you think?


The presence of a ipmi* device could be a good heuristic to select the 
default mode.

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Re: vt console driver and default vga mode: breaking POLA

[Chris H]

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 11:59:45 +0200 Borja Marcos  wrote

> Hi
> 
> I apologise for being late on this, but I just noticed. The new vt console
> driver has a very important change in behavior, replacing the ancient
> “BIOS” text mode with a graphic VGA mode. 
>
> I don’t know how many people relies on BIOS serial redirection for
> consoles, but at least HP’s iLO system offers the possibility of accessing
> the console through a ssh connection instead of requiring a bloated Java
> console, and it’s a very convenient feature. But it only works in pure
> “BIOS text mode” (the old sc console driver used this mode as a default).
> 
> I would rather change the default behavior of vt to hw.vga.textmode=1 so that
> its behavior mimics the old sc driver.
> 
> I know the current fad is to hide boot messages with panda bears and
> beautiful butterflies revolving around them, but boot messages are critical
> when diagnosing problems. 
LOL
>
> I should have chimed in earlier, I know. But anyway it’s a very minor
> change. 
>
> 
> 
> 
> What do you think?
+1
It might also be worth mentioning that (most?) NVIDIA card
users users will also suffer from this (non text mode).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Borja.
> 
--Chris


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