Re: State of Unicode collation support in FreeBSD?

2013-09-13 Thread David Demelier
2013/9/10 Wolfgang Zenker wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org:
 * David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com [130910 10:26]:
 2013/8/28 Wolfgang Zenker wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org:
 [crossposted to -stable and -i18n]
 could someone point me to infos regarding Unicode collation support in 
 FreeBSD?
 All I could find was https://wiki.freebsd.org/KonradJankowski/Collation but
 that page has not been changed in more than two years. Looking at sources of
 -current it doesn't look like those changes made it into the source tree 
 yet.

 I think no one is really interested to add real UTF-8 support to
 Syscons. Currently you can get UTF-8 output by using Syscons xterm
 ttys (which is default) and set your appropriate locales. For input
 it's currently (unfortunately) not supported.

 If you use X.Org, then your fine using UTF-8.

 There might be a misunderstanding: Collation is about ordering characters and
 sorting strings. What we have in FreeBSD right now is support for input and
 output of utf-8 characters, and with X11 and the right set of fonts they
 display ok, and at least using vim editing utf-8 text works ok. But sorting
 utf-8 strings yields interesting results as soon as you have non-ascii
 characters in your strings.


Aaah, okay sorry I really did misunderstanding the question yes ;-).

Regards,

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Demelier David
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Re: State of Unicode collation support in FreeBSD?

2013-09-10 Thread David Demelier
2013/8/28 Wolfgang Zenker wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org:
 [crossposted to -stable and -i18n, replies directed to -stable]

 Hi everyone,

 could someone point me to infos regarding Unicode collation support in 
 FreeBSD?
 All I could find was https://wiki.freebsd.org/KonradJankowski/Collation but
 that page has not been changed in more than two years. Looking at sources of
 -current it doesn't look like those changes made it into the source tree yet.

 Wolfgang

I think no one is really interested to add real UTF-8 support to
Syscons. Currently you can get UTF-8 output by using Syscons xterm
ttys (which is default) and set your appropriate locales. For input
it's currently (unfortunately) not supported.

If you use X.Org, then your fine using UTF-8.

Cheers,

-- 
Demelier David
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Re: State of Unicode collation support in FreeBSD?

2013-09-10 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:26:29AM +0200, David Demelier wrote:

 2013/8/28 Wolfgang Zenker wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org:
  [crossposted to -stable and -i18n, replies directed to -stable]
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  could someone point me to infos regarding Unicode collation support in 
  FreeBSD?
  All I could find was https://wiki.freebsd.org/KonradJankowski/Collation but
  that page has not been changed in more than two years. Looking at sources of
  -current it doesn't look like those changes made it into the source tree 
  yet.
 
  Wolfgang
 
 I think no one is really interested to add real UTF-8 support to
 Syscons. Currently you can get UTF-8 output by using Syscons xterm
 ttys (which is default) and set your appropriate locales. For input
 it's currently (unfortunately) not supported.
 
 If you use X.Org, then your fine using UTF-8.

Why you talk about syscons?
This is about sort, postgres and other software.
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Re: State of Unicode collation support in FreeBSD?

2013-09-10 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
* David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com [130910 10:26]:
 2013/8/28 Wolfgang Zenker wolfg...@lyxys.ka.sub.org:
 [crossposted to -stable and -i18n]
 could someone point me to infos regarding Unicode collation support in 
 FreeBSD?
 All I could find was https://wiki.freebsd.org/KonradJankowski/Collation but
 that page has not been changed in more than two years. Looking at sources of
 -current it doesn't look like those changes made it into the source tree yet.

 I think no one is really interested to add real UTF-8 support to
 Syscons. Currently you can get UTF-8 output by using Syscons xterm
 ttys (which is default) and set your appropriate locales. For input
 it's currently (unfortunately) not supported.

 If you use X.Org, then your fine using UTF-8.

There might be a misunderstanding: Collation is about ordering characters and
sorting strings. What we have in FreeBSD right now is support for input and
output of utf-8 characters, and with X11 and the right set of fonts they
display ok, and at least using vim editing utf-8 text works ok. But sorting
utf-8 strings yields interesting results as soon as you have non-ascii
characters in your strings.

Wolfgang
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State of Unicode collation support in FreeBSD?

2013-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
[crossposted to -stable and -i18n, replies directed to -stable]

Hi everyone,

could someone point me to infos regarding Unicode collation support in FreeBSD?
All I could find was https://wiki.freebsd.org/KonradJankowski/Collation but
that page has not been changed in more than two years. Looking at sources of
-current it doesn't look like those changes made it into the source tree yet.

Wolfgang
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