Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Tuesday 10 May 2005 04:15 pm, Warner Losh wrote: : : On Monday 09 May 2005 09:42, Kirk Strauser wrote: : : Anyone? I've just re-installed NetBSD 2.0.2 for the sake of having a BSD : on it until I can possibly make FreeBSD to work, but that's certainly not : my ideal solution. : : I have no idea what you are asking for. : : Basically, for a magic formula to make my non-Cardbus PCMCIA card work under : FreeBSD (without throwing CIS is too long errors) just like it does under : OpenBSD, NetBSD, and Linux. They work fine for me on my laptop :-). However, there's a known issue, that's hard to resolve, on some laptops. If you aren't using ACPI, then you may have to specify the host bridge's starting memory address as a tunable (in /boot/loader.conf). hw.pci.host_mem_start defaults to 0x8000. Some systems require a higher address. Try using 0xc000, 0xd000, or 0xf000. If that's not the problem, then I'll need a more complete dmesg. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthias Buelow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Kirk Strauser wrote: : : Basically, for a magic formula to make my non-Cardbus PCMCIA card work under : FreeBSD (without throwing CIS is too long errors) just like it does under : OpenBSD, NetBSD, and Linux. : : I'm trying to do similar things.. I'm trying to get a wi0 wi-fi card : working on non-cardbus pcmcia. It worked mostly (with acpi disabled) on : 5.3. With 5.4 now I just get device timeout. Plus, the sysinstall for : several iterations of the same manual procedure set the interface down : (and kept it down) after I manually configured it in the fixit shell : (providing the same options in sysinstall's network dialog wouldn't : work). Ah.. the pain... I think I'll switch back to NetBSD on that box : aswell, which ran fine. *sigh* Sounds like a PCI routing issue, if you are getting device timeouts. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Tuesday 10 May 2005 16:15, Warner Losh wrote: : : I have no idea what you are asking for. : : Let me restate my original dilemma. My laptop can only use my WLAN card : when it's configured as a 16-bit PCMCIA device and not as a 32-bit CardBus : device. I have several such devices. : In NetBSD, this can be accomplished by typing boot -c at its loader prompt : and typing disable cbb* to disable the cbb (CardBus) drivers, which : leaves the pcic (PCMCIA) drivers to correctly configure the card. After : doing this, the card works exactly as hoped. Why do you need to disable CardBus. The bridge should automatically detect that it is a R2 card (16-bit) and do the right thing. : However, commenting out device cbb in my FreeBSD kernel results in a : non-working setup. By that, I mean that the card's lights never flicker as : it's being inserted (as it would do under NetBSD and Linux when it's being : probed). In fact, I get no debugging information at all, whether : from /var/log/messages or via dmesg. : : Any ideas where I could go from here? In addition to my earlier suggestion, you can enable 'hw.cbb.debug=1' and 'hw.cardbus.debug=1' and 'hw.pccard.debug=1' and 'hw.pccard.cis_debug=1' for a much more chatty boot. This won't solve your problem, but will give me a clue about what might be going on. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
M. Warner Losh wrote: : I'm trying to do similar things.. I'm trying to get a wi0 wi-fi card : working on non-cardbus pcmcia. It worked mostly (with acpi disabled) on : 5.3. With 5.4 now I just get device timeout. Plus, the sysinstall for Sounds like a PCI routing issue, if you are getting device timeouts. Interestingly, today a similar procedure worked.. without device timeouts. This time I dropped right into the fixit shell and configured the card without first letting sysinstall attempt its stuff. I also used dhclient right from start (instead of first fumbling a static address onto the card). Sysinstall still complained and presented me with the network dialog (why is there no way to skip this? There should be an option network already configured) but it apparently didn't clobber the settings. Perhaps I'll try another reinstall later and see if I was just lucky (or unlucky the last one) or if it's more reliable that way. mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 16:15, Warner Losh wrote: I have no idea what you are asking for. Let me restate my original dilemma. My laptop can only use my WLAN card when it's configured as a 16-bit PCMCIA device and not as a 32-bit CardBus device. In NetBSD, this can be accomplished by typing boot -c at its loader prompt and typing disable cbb* to disable the cbb (CardBus) drivers, which leaves the pcic (PCMCIA) drivers to correctly configure the card. After doing this, the card works exactly as hoped. Similarly, I can get the same effect under Linux by disabling the 32-bit CardBus support option; the end result is a happily working WLAN card. However, commenting out device cbb in my FreeBSD kernel results in a non-working setup. By that, I mean that the card's lights never flicker as it's being inserted (as it would do under NetBSD and Linux when it's being probed). In fact, I get no debugging information at all, whether from /var/log/messages or via dmesg. Any ideas where I could go from here? -- Kirk Strauser pgpzjrRmiDCkK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 May 2005, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 16:15, Warner Losh wrote: I have no idea what you are asking for. Let me restate my original dilemma. My laptop can only use my WLAN card when it's configured as a 16-bit PCMCIA device and not as a 32-bit CardBus device. In NetBSD, this can be accomplished by typing boot -c at its loader prompt and typing disable cbb* to disable the cbb (CardBus) drivers, which leaves the pcic (PCMCIA) drivers to correctly configure the card. After doing this, the card works exactly as hoped. Similarly, I can get the same effect under Linux by disabling the 32-bit CardBus support option; the end result is a happily working WLAN card. However, commenting out device cbb in my FreeBSD kernel results in a non-working setup. By that, I mean that the card's lights never flicker as it's being inserted (as it would do under NetBSD and Linux when it's being probed). In fact, I get no debugging information at all, whether from /var/log/messages or via dmesg. Any ideas where I could go from here? You should take a look into src/sys/i386/conf/OLDCARD change the appropriate lines in you kernel configuration and rebuild your kernel. Hope that is what you are searching for.. Joerg - -- The beginning is the most important part of the work. -Plato -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCghaJSPOsGF+KA+MRAuoDAJ0UcPuJJaCjm2ATNM4n/5tS1lKorwCfeDvA 6Xin6+TqW0pK8GQ6rlD3sTk= =2oKa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 09:28, Joerg Pulz wrote: You should take a look into src/sys/i386/conf/OLDCARD change the appropriate lines in you kernel configuration and rebuild your kernel. I appreciate the suggestion, but pcic(4) includes this less-than-promising statement: BUGS This does not work at all at the moment. I'll give it a shot anyway, though, and pray for out-of-date man pages. :-) -- Kirk Strauser pgphrMwiFdebe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
On Monday 09 May 2005 09:42, Kirk Strauser wrote: The same setup can boot NetBSD and Linux to get full use of the card by disabling the Cardbus drivers in favor of the PCMCIA ones (ie, by running config on NetBSD and typing disable cbb, or by building a custom Linux kernel with the appropriate settings). I can't seem to get the same results from FreeBSD, though. Anyone? I've just re-installed NetBSD 2.0.2 for the sake of having a BSD on it until I can possibly make FreeBSD to work, but that's certainly not my ideal solution. -- Kirk Strauser pgpEKWUgDKbp1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
On Monday 09 May 2005 09:42, Kirk Strauser wrote: The same setup can boot NetBSD and Linux to get full use of the card by disabling the Cardbus drivers in favor of the PCMCIA ones (ie, by running config on NetBSD and typing disable cbb, or by building a custom Linux kernel with the appropriate settings). I can't seem to get the same results from FreeBSD, though. Anyone? I've just re-installed NetBSD 2.0.2 for the sake of having a BSD on it until I can possibly make FreeBSD to work, but that's certainly not my ideal solution. I have no idea what you are asking for. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 04:15 pm, Warner Losh wrote: On Monday 09 May 2005 09:42, Kirk Strauser wrote: Anyone? I've just re-installed NetBSD 2.0.2 for the sake of having a BSD on it until I can possibly make FreeBSD to work, but that's certainly not my ideal solution. I have no idea what you are asking for. Basically, for a magic formula to make my non-Cardbus PCMCIA card work under FreeBSD (without throwing CIS is too long errors) just like it does under OpenBSD, NetBSD, and Linux. -- Kirk Strauser pgpvl9UXJmQ2O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
Kirk Strauser wrote: Basically, for a magic formula to make my non-Cardbus PCMCIA card work under FreeBSD (without throwing CIS is too long errors) just like it does under OpenBSD, NetBSD, and Linux. I'm trying to do similar things.. I'm trying to get a wi0 wi-fi card working on non-cardbus pcmcia. It worked mostly (with acpi disabled) on 5.3. With 5.4 now I just get device timeout. Plus, the sysinstall for several iterations of the same manual procedure set the interface down (and kept it down) after I manually configured it in the fixit shell (providing the same options in sysinstall's network dialog wouldn't work). Ah.. the pain... I think I'll switch back to NetBSD on that box aswell, which ran fine. *sigh* mkb. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use PCMCIA instead of CardBus?
I have an older laptop (AMS TravelTech w/ K6-3+/333) and a Microsoft MN-520 WLAN adapter. I want to put FreeBSD on it, but I'm having a lot of trouble with the card not being recognized after the infamous errors: CIS is too long -- truncating pccard0: Card has no functions! cbb0: PC Card card activation failed The same setup can boot NetBSD and Linux to get full use of the card by disabling the Cardbus drivers in favor of the PCMCIA ones (ie, by running config on NetBSD and typing disable cbb, or by building a custom Linux kernel with the appropriate settings). I can't seem to get the same results from FreeBSD, though. Any suggestions? -- Kirk Strauser pgpIP7IKFd6uL.pgp Description: PGP signature
