Re: bootless!

2009-10-21 Thread Bruce Simpson

Randy Bush wrote:

is there a recipe for making a 7.2 usb?
  


Tried the UsbDevice command in NanoBSD? This won't give you a full 
FreeBSD installer, but you can build a 7.2 system with it just fine.

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Re: bootless!

2009-10-20 Thread Andriy Gapon

Randy,

just something possibly useful for the future.
Not sure if it really could have helped you here but perhaps it could:
http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/wiki/manageBE

I personally don't use manageBE, but I have a very similar setup/config. I 
perform
all the boot-environment actions by hand rather than by a script. I do it that 
way
because I perform major upgrades very infrequently (like once a month) and I 
like
an additional exercise in keyboard punching :-)


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Re: bootless!

2009-10-19 Thread Randy Bush
>> i386 running 7.2 as of aug 29
>> twe, gmirrored boot partition, zfs universe
>> cvsupped 24 hours ago
>> new kernel world
>> will not boot.  get beastie but stops at first twirly
>> 
>> can boot old kernel -s, but not new kernel
>> 
>> can not use old kernel with new world, hangs if i try to /etc/rc.d/zfs
>> start
> 
> A few questions:  Have you cvsupped to 7-STABLE or 8?  Are you using ZFS
> root?  Do you get anything extra with "boot -v"?  Have you tried your
> old loader (/boot/loader.old)?

really dead ended with old systems.  no, root not zfs.

the post mortem by a friend:

friday morning, while trying to solve some other problem (i no longer
remember what), randy did a "make installworld" that broke psg.com's
ability to use its zfs filesystems.  obvious answer was to revert, but
that turns out to be easier to say than to do with /usr offline.

friday's attempts to roll back via net and remote hands failed, so
randy diverted to seattle.

after further whackiness on saturday with randy in the westin with a
crash cart, it became clear that, even using the pre-zfs filesystems
that had been sitting idle since the move to zfs, the machine was too
messed up to be able to run "make world".  many programs (eg, "ln")
were failing with sigsys errors due to some kind of mismatch between
userland and kernel.

so we installed freebsd 7.2 from distro media onto a blank usb hard
drive, whacked the bios with a club until it admitted to being able to
boot from usb, and used that disk as a stable build platform capable
of running csup and make world.  this didn't solve the problem, but
got us far enough that randy could check out of the westin.

after further antics, gyrations, sacrifices of rubber chickens, and
some sleep, we finally got zfs back up, installed new world and
kernel, fixed all the things we had broken (well, that we could
remember or had logged), and got the machine back up and running on
its filesystems, with just enough time left for randy to eat dinner
and head for the ferry to catch a red eye bound for nanog.

so that's where we are now: randy's in transit and everything seems
back to normal.  initially exim was groaning under the load of a
weekend's mail backlog, but that looks to be calming down.

-30-
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Re: bootless!

2009-10-19 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 21:13 -0400, Randy Bush wrote:
> i386 running 7.2 as of aug 29
> twe, gmirrored boot partition, zfs universe
> cvsupped 24 hours ago
> new kernel world
> will not boot.  get beastie but stops at first twirly
> 
> can boot old kernel -s, but not new kernel
> 
> can not use old kernel with new world, hangs if i try to /etc/rc.d/zfs
> start

A few questions:  Have you cvsupped to 7-STABLE or 8?  Are you using ZFS
root?  Do you get anything extra with "boot -v"?  Have you tried your
old loader (/boot/loader.old)?

Gavin
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Re: bootless!

2009-10-17 Thread Boris Kochergin

Randy Bush wrote:

is there a recipe for making a 7.2 usb?

randy
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If you mean for converting the ISOs to images you can dd to USB flash 
drives, http://acm.poly.edu/~spawk/image.sh. I found it somewhere else a 
long time ago, but it works. Note that you cannot install distributions 
from it, so you'll have to get those using FTP, another local 
filesystem, etc.


-Boris
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Re: bootless!

2009-10-17 Thread Randy Bush
is there a recipe for making a 7.2 usb?

randy
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Re: bootless!

2009-10-17 Thread Tom Judge

Look at the footers of this email for how to remove yourself.

Swearing will not get you any where, and is likely to result in people 
not helping you.



Clifford, Ken wrote:

Take me off this fucking list!@

From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org] On 
Behalf Of Randy Bush [ra...@iij.ad.jp]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:13 PM
To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List
Subject: bootless!

i386 running 7.2 as of aug 29
twe, gmirrored boot partition, zfs universe
cvsupped 24 hours ago
new kernel world
will not boot.  get beastie but stops at first twirly

can boot old kernel -s, but not new kernel

can not use old kernel with new world, hangs if i try to /etc/rc.d/zfs
start

am desperate enough that i am flying from dc to seattle see if i can get
it revved back to aug 29 with a fixit

any clues appreciated.  please use From: address, as my normal email is
guess where.

randy
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Re: bootless!

2009-10-17 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/17 Clifford, Ken :
> Take me off this fucking list!@

>From the bottom of the email you just sent:

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Chris


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Re: bootless!

2009-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
> i386 running 7.2 as of aug 29
> twe, gmirrored boot partition, zfs universe
> cvsupped 24 hours ago
> new kernel & world
> will not boot.  get beastie but stops at first twirly
> 
> can boot old kernel -s, but not new kernel
> 
> can not use old kernel with new world, hangs if i try to /etc/rc.d/zfs
> start
> 
> am desperate enough that i am flying from dc to seattle see if i can get
> it revved back to aug 29 with a fixit
> 
> any clues appreciated.  please use From: address, as my normal email is
> guess where.

oh, and yes, i did try verbose boot

OK boot -v
|

randy
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RE: bootless!

2009-10-16 Thread Clifford, Ken
Take me off this fucking list!@

From: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org [owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org] On 
Behalf Of Randy Bush [ra...@iij.ad.jp]
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:13 PM
To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List
Subject: bootless!

i386 running 7.2 as of aug 29
twe, gmirrored boot partition, zfs universe
cvsupped 24 hours ago
new kernel world
will not boot.  get beastie but stops at first twirly

can boot old kernel -s, but not new kernel

can not use old kernel with new world, hangs if i try to /etc/rc.d/zfs
start

am desperate enough that i am flying from dc to seattle see if i can get
it revved back to aug 29 with a fixit

any clues appreciated.  please use From: address, as my normal email is
guess where.

randy
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bootless!

2009-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
i386 running 7.2 as of aug 29
twe, gmirrored boot partition, zfs universe
cvsupped 24 hours ago
new kernel world
will not boot.  get beastie but stops at first twirly

can boot old kernel -s, but not new kernel

can not use old kernel with new world, hangs if i try to /etc/rc.d/zfs
start

am desperate enough that i am flying from dc to seattle see if i can get
it revved back to aug 29 with a fixit

any clues appreciated.  please use From: address, as my normal email is
guess where.

randy
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