Re: setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf

2012-02-28 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-02-26 22:37, Alexander Best wrote:
 any chance support for setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf could be
 added before the release of freebsd 10.0? the way it is done atm is really not
 intuitive. the rule should really be:
 
 - make.conf = applies globally
 - src.conf  = applies only to /usr/src
 ( maybe a ports.conf or port.conf could be introduced at some point, too)
 
 ... the current situation, where only certain variables can be set in src.conf
 is not ideal.

I just committed r232263 to head, which should allow setting CC/CXX/CPP
in src.conf.  Please try it out.
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Re: setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf

2012-02-28 Thread Alexander Best
On Tue Feb 28 12, Dimitry Andric wrote:
 On 2012-02-26 22:37, Alexander Best wrote:
  any chance support for setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf could 
  be
  added before the release of freebsd 10.0? the way it is done atm is really 
  not
  intuitive. the rule should really be:
  
  - make.conf = applies globally
  - src.conf  = applies only to /usr/src
  ( maybe a ports.conf or port.conf could be introduced at some point, too)
  
  ... the current situation, where only certain variables can be set in 
  src.conf
  is not ideal.
 
 I just committed r232263 to head, which should allow setting CC/CXX/CPP
 in src.conf.  Please try it out.

it seems the latest libarchive import broke world with clang and without
NO_WERROR=. i'm now trying with NO_WERROR= set.

cheers.
alex
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Re: setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf

2012-02-28 Thread Alexander Best
On Tue Feb 28 12, Dimitry Andric wrote:
 On 2012-02-26 22:37, Alexander Best wrote:
  any chance support for setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf could 
  be
  added before the release of freebsd 10.0? the way it is done atm is really 
  not
  intuitive. the rule should really be:
  
  - make.conf = applies globally
  - src.conf  = applies only to /usr/src
  ( maybe a ports.conf or port.conf could be introduced at some point, too)
  
  ... the current situation, where only certain variables can be set in 
  src.conf
  is not ideal.
 
 I just committed r232263 to head, which should allow setting CC/CXX/CPP
 in src.conf.  Please try it out.

any chance we can have a CFLAGS.gcc and CFLAGS.clang in the future? that would
make certain things a lot easier. dealing with gcc specific options, such as
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 would simply work by setting
CFLAGS.gcc=-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 e.g.

cheers.
alex
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Re: setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf

2012-02-26 Thread Warner Losh

On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote:

 hi there,
 
 any chance support for setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf could be
 added before the release of freebsd 10.0? the way it is done atm is really not
 intuitive. the rule should really be:
 
 - make.conf = applies globally
 - src.conf  = applies only to /usr/src
 ( maybe a ports.conf or port.conf could be introduced at some point, too)
 ... the current situation, where only certain variables can be set in src.conf
 is not ideal.

What doesn't work?  Or rather, how does it work now?

Warner

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Re: setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf

2012-02-26 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-02-26 23:38, Warner Losh wrote:
 On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote:
 any chance support for setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf could 
 be
 added before the release of freebsd 10.0? the way it is done atm is really 
 not
 intuitive. the rule should really be:

 - make.conf = applies globally
 - src.conf  = applies only to /usr/src
 ( maybe a ports.conf or port.conf could be introduced at some point, too)
 ... the current situation, where only certain variables can be set in 
 src.conf
 is not ideal.
 
 What doesn't work?  Or rather, how does it work now?

Setting CC/CXX/CPP and such in src.conf doesn't work, at least not for
all Makefiles in world.  There are still many of them that don't do the
right thing, picking up CC values from sys.mk and/or make.conf instead.

The trickiest one is Makefile.inc1, which does some special magic, and
isn't really a normal BSD Makefile anyway. :)

I've got a git branch with some experiments to have all the compiler
settings read from src.conf instead of make.conf, but I didn't finish it
before some other work took precedence...
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Re: setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf

2012-02-26 Thread O. Hartmann
On 02/26/12 23:38, Warner Losh wrote:
 
 On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Alexander Best wrote:
 
 hi there,

 any chance support for setting CC/CXX/CPP unconditionally in src.conf could 
 be
 added before the release of freebsd 10.0? the way it is done atm is really 
 not
 intuitive. the rule should really be:

 - make.conf = applies globally
 - src.conf  = applies only to /usr/src
 ( maybe a ports.conf or port.conf could be introduced at some point, too)
 ... the current situation, where only certain variables can be set in 
 src.conf
 is not ideal.
 
 What doesn't work?  Or rather, how does it work now?
 
 Warner
 

At the moment, as far as I realized myself and read herin the mailing
list, setting

CC
CXX
CPP

in /etc/src.conf for only kernel builds doesn't work. I tried. I tried
hard! One must set these variables in /etc/make.conf.

The manpage for src.conf(5) is not clear. I would expect that even
compiler settings need to go into src.conf - that is the way I handled
it the first time and failed.

/etc/make.conf contains a mix of systemwide variables also involving the
/usr/src tree AND the ports tree. Since FreeBSD make a big deal being
different in keeping the core system and its ports, I'd expect a also
clear cut: everything that involves the coresystem (/usr/src) is about
to go into /etc/src.conf, everything that has to do with conditions for
ports should go elsewere (/usr/local/etc/ports.conf would be nice).

At this moment I personally keep conditions for the CLANG environment in
/etc/make.conf - partially conditional and unconditional. For each port
I stumble into which is incapable being compiled with CLANG or need
special features like OpenMP which is CLANg incapable of, do have their
conditional lines like

.if ${.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick*}
#USE_GCC=   4.6+
CC= cc
CXX=c++
CPP=cpp
.endif

This mixing in /etc/make.conf is messy and confusing.

Even if /etc/src.conf is only for booleans as WITH_=YES or
WITHOUT_=YES, there should be a strict separation between the
source system and anything related to ports, even in case of costs of
having a kind of redundancy.

/etc/make.conf should define the base, even for /usr/src, etc/src.conf
should set conditions for /usr/src and another config, like the proposed
/etc/ports.conf or better /usr/local/etc/ports.conf should inherit
make.conf and override those variables if demanded by the user.

This is some kind of wish I'd like to see and that would make the OS
compiler configuration more logical.

Oliver



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