Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Maarten Vermeulen]

Is dutch a priority?
Or will it ve used?
If yes, i can do dutch...

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Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

It has been several days. Are there no volunteers to do Language translations?

If not, it will only support English and “Broken” Spanish.

https://github.com/shidel/FDI/tree/master/LANGUAGE/TEMPLATE

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.  wrote:
> 
> Just an additional note on the languages.
> 
> I ran a poll on Facebook. And the requests were in order:
> 
> English (EN) +6
> Spanish (ES) +5
> German (DE) +4
> Japanese +3
> Russian +3
> Chinese (ZH_TW) +3
> Patagonian (PT) +1
> Klingon
> Swahili 
> 
> Also, my “Broken” Spanish translation should really be redone by 
> someone who speaks more than my very poor Spanish. All, I did
> was run text through google translate and try to fix it up a little. 
> Sometimes, I’d read what it gave me and would think “I know that 
> can’t be correct.”
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Jerome E. Shidel Jr.]

It has been several days. Are there no volunteers to do Language translations?

If not, it will only support English and “Broken” Spanish.

https://github.com/shidel/FDI/tree/master/LANGUAGE/TEMPLATE

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.  wrote:
> 
> Just an additional note on the languages.
> 
> I ran a poll on Facebook. And the requests were in order:
> 
> English (EN) +6
> Spanish (ES) +5
> German (DE) +4
> Japanese +3
> Russian +3
> Chinese (ZH_TW) +3
> Patagonian (PT) +1
> Klingon
> Swahili 
> 
> Also, my “Broken” Spanish translation should really be redone by 
> someone who speaks more than my very poor Spanish. All, I did
> was run text through google translate and try to fix it up a little. 
> Sometimes, I’d read what it gave me and would think “I know that 
> can’t be correct.”
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Mercury Thirteen]

I'd say why not do it? If you do it I'm sure it will be used, and it won't
hurt the installer to support one more language. :)

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Maarten Vermeulen 
wrote:

> Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
> So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any
> sense to translate it.
>
> Maarten
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> Van: JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU 
> Verzonden: ‎17-‎12-‎2015 16:12
>
> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
> 
> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages
>
> I don't know anything other than Englishand Binary
> (hah..hah..).Perhaps Google Translate could help?
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Maarten Vermeulen 
> wrote:
>
>> Is dutch a priority?
>> Or will it ve used?
>> If yes, i can do dutch...
>> --
>> Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
>> Verzonden: ‎17-‎12-‎2015 13:59
>> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
>> 
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages
>>
>> It has been several days. Are there no volunteers to do Language
>> translations?
>>
>> If not, it will only support English and “Broken” Spanish.
>>
>> https://github.com/shidel/FDI/tree/master/LANGUAGE/TEMPLATE
>>
>> > On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just an additional note on the languages.
>> >
>> > I ran a poll on Facebook. And the requests were in order:
>> >
>> > English (EN) +6
>> > Spanish (ES) +5
>> > German (DE) +4
>> > Japanese +3
>> > Russian +3
>> > Chinese (ZH_TW) +3
>> > Patagonian (PT) +1
>> > Klingon
>> > Swahili
>> >
>> > Also, my “Broken” Spanish translation should really be redone by
>> > someone who speaks more than my very poor Spanish. All, I did
>> > was run text through google translate and try to fix it up a little.
>> > Sometimes, I’d read what it gave me and would think “I know that
>> > can’t be correct.”
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

[Jim Hall]

I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying to
do all things for every use case and every user.


On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
wrote:

> Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation regarding
> package files.
>
> At present:
>
> DOSDIR is backed up.
>
>  All packages that are going to be installed are removed before
> installation.
>
> Package data files are backed up.
>
> The the DOSDIR is purged.
>
> Package data files are restored.
>
> New packages are installed.
>
> Issue:
>
> Packages that have files in the DOSDIR, will lose those files.
>
> Solution 1: (Present behavior)
>
> Let the user worry about it, and let them do a remove/install of
> those packages later.
>
> Solution 2:
>
> Also, uninstall any packages that have any files that reside in
> the DOSDIR.
>
> Solution 3:
>
> Restore the missing files from the backup.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU]

I don't know anything other than Englishand Binary (hah..hah..).Perhaps
Google Translate could help?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Maarten Vermeulen 
wrote:

> Is dutch a priority?
> Or will it ve used?
> If yes, i can do dutch...
> --
> Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
> Verzonden: ‎17-‎12-‎2015 13:59
> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
> 
> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages
>
> It has been several days. Are there no volunteers to do Language
> translations?
>
> If not, it will only support English and “Broken” Spanish.
>
> https://github.com/shidel/FDI/tree/master/LANGUAGE/TEMPLATE
>
> > On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
> wrote:
> >
> > Just an additional note on the languages.
> >
> > I ran a poll on Facebook. And the requests were in order:
> >
> > English (EN) +6
> > Spanish (ES) +5
> > German (DE) +4
> > Japanese +3
> > Russian +3
> > Chinese (ZH_TW) +3
> > Patagonian (PT) +1
> > Klingon
> > Swahili
> >
> > Also, my “Broken” Spanish translation should really be redone by
> > someone who speaks more than my very poor Spanish. All, I did
> > was run text through google translate and try to fix it up a little.
> > Sometimes, I’d read what it gave me and would think “I know that
> > can’t be correct.”
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Maarten Vermeulen]

Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any sense 
to translate it.

Maarten

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Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

I don't know anything other than Englishand Binary (hah..hah..).Perhaps 
Google Translate could help?


On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Maarten Vermeulen  wrote:

Is dutch a priority?
Or will it ve used?
If yes, i can do dutch...


Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Verzonden: ‎17-‎12-‎2015 13:59
Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages


It has been several days. Are there no volunteers to do Language translations?

If not, it will only support English and “Broken” Spanish.

https://github.com/shidel/FDI/tree/master/LANGUAGE/TEMPLATE

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.  wrote:
> 
> Just an additional note on the languages.
> 
> I ran a poll on Facebook. And the requests were in order:
> 
> English (EN) +6
> Spanish (ES) +5
> German (DE) +4
> Japanese +3
> Russian +3
> Chinese (ZH_TW) +3
> Patagonian (PT) +1
> Klingon
> Swahili 
> 
> Also, my “Broken” Spanish translation should really be redone by 
> someone who speaks more than my very poor Spanish. All, I did
> was run text through google translate and try to fix it up a little. 
> Sometimes, I’d read what it gave me and would think “I know that 
> can’t be correct.”
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

[Jerome E. Shidel Jr.]

Hello Jim,

Mostly, I don’t think it is too complex.

It really only has one mode of operation. Fresh install.

However, it will make a backup and preserve package data when a user 
happens to be upgrading.

If no language setting was found, the first screen prompts for the language.

Next is the Welcome to the Installer screen.

(Clean system, Asks to partition and to format)

(Pre-existing OS askes to make a backup)

Install Base/All w/without sources.

The the install now prompt.

(installs OS)

Asks to reboot or exit.

All of the other prompting and questions are only shown in advanced mode.
They just provide an opportunity for the user to override default actions and
assumptions that the installer 

Is there anything in particular that has you concerned?

Just an FYI, I am really leaning towards not providing detailed package 
selection
in advanced mode. I have though of several ways to implement it. But, 
I don’t really like any of the ones I have come up with that don’t require
a separate utility that does it. I am not going to create a tool just for that.
So, DPS probably won’t be included in the standard installer.

Other than DPS, determining what packages are in BASE and ALL, and adding
languages, the installer is done.


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> 
> I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying to do 
> all things for every use case and every user. 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.  
> wrote:
> Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation regarding 
> package files.
> 
> At present:
> 
> DOSDIR is backed up.
> 
>  All packages that are going to be installed are removed before 
> installation.
> 
> Package data files are backed up.
> 
> The the DOSDIR is purged.
> 
> Package data files are restored.
> 
> New packages are installed.
> 
> Issue:
> 
> Packages that have files in the DOSDIR, will lose those files.
> 
> Solution 1: (Present behavior)
> 
> Let the user worry about it, and let them do a remove/install of 
> those packages later.
> 
> Solution 2:
> 
> Also, uninstall any packages that have any files that reside in the 
> DOSDIR.
> 
> Solution 3:
> 
> Restore the missing files from the backup.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

[JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU]

Perhaps implementing some of the code from the older installer (FD1.1)?That
allowed you to select your packages on install.We could take some of the
code from that and use it for our modern ADVANCED mode.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
wrote:

> Hello Jim,
>
> Mostly, I don’t think it is too complex.
>
> It really only has one mode of operation. Fresh install.
>
> However, it will make a backup and preserve package data when a user
> happens to be upgrading.
>
> If no language setting was found, the first screen prompts for the
> language.
>
> Next is the Welcome to the Installer screen.
>
> (Clean system, Asks to partition and to format)
>
> (Pre-existing OS askes to make a backup)
>
> Install Base/All w/without sources.
>
> The the install now prompt.
>
> (installs OS)
>
> Asks to reboot or exit.
>
> All of the other prompting and questions are only shown in advanced mode.
> They just provide an opportunity for the user to override default actions
> and
> assumptions that the installer
>
> Is there anything in particular that has you concerned?
>
> Just an FYI, I am really leaning towards not providing detailed package
> selection
> in advanced mode. I have though of several ways to implement it. But,
> I don’t really like any of the ones I have come up with that don’t require
> a separate utility that does it. I am not going to create a tool just for
> that.
> So, DPS probably won’t be included in the standard installer.
>
> Other than DPS, determining what packages are in BASE and ALL, and adding
> languages, the installer is done.
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> >
> > I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying
> to do all things for every use case and every user.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <
> jer...@shidel.net> wrote:
> > Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation regarding
> package files.
> >
> > At present:
> >
> > DOSDIR is backed up.
> >
> >  All packages that are going to be installed are removed before
> installation.
> >
> > Package data files are backed up.
> >
> > The the DOSDIR is purged.
> >
> > Package data files are restored.
> >
> > New packages are installed.
> >
> > Issue:
> >
> > Packages that have files in the DOSDIR, will lose those files.
> >
> > Solution 1: (Present behavior)
> >
> > Let the user worry about it, and let them do a remove/install of
> those packages later.
> >
> > Solution 2:
> >
> > Also, uninstall any packages that have any files that reside in
> the DOSDIR.
> >
> > Solution 3:
> >
> > Restore the missing files from the backup.
> >
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

[Antony Gordon]

Well, there is always the DOS 3.3/4.0 way of doing things - Using SELECT.COM
and REPLACE.EXE

I am willing to bet no one remembers updating DOS using REPLACE.EXE or
installing DOS 4.0(1) using SELECT.COM

-Tony

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:33 AM Jim Hall  wrote:

> I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying to
> do all things for every use case and every user.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
> wrote:
>
>> Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation regarding
>> package files.
>>
>> At present:
>>
>> DOSDIR is backed up.
>>
>>  All packages that are going to be installed are removed before
>> installation.
>>
>> Package data files are backed up.
>>
>> The the DOSDIR is purged.
>>
>> Package data files are restored.
>>
>> New packages are installed.
>>
>> Issue:
>>
>> Packages that have files in the DOSDIR, will lose those files.
>>
>> Solution 1: (Present behavior)
>>
>> Let the user worry about it, and let them do a remove/install of
>> those packages later.
>>
>> Solution 2:
>>
>> Also, uninstall any packages that have any files that reside in
>> the DOSDIR.
>>
>> Solution 3:
>>
>> Restore the missing files from the backup.
>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Jerome E. Shidel Jr.]

I have no problem including any submitted language translation for FDI.
By it’s inclusion, it would be supported by FDI either through auto-detection or
setting the LANG environment variable.

I just make no promises that it will be on the Select Language screen.

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Maarten Vermeulen  wrote:
> 
> Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
> So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any sense 
> to translate it.
> 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Paul Dufresne]

Yeah, I am thinking about translating the 3 files to french... just
have a little problem making it a priority.
Guess you should not postpone release if you don't get results soon enough.

2015-12-17 12:27 GMT-05:00 Jerome E. Shidel Jr. :
> I have no problem including any submitted language translation for FDI.
> By it’s inclusion, it would be supported by FDI either through auto-detection 
> or
> setting the LANG environment variable.
>
> I just make no promises that it will be on the Select Language screen.
>
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Maarten Vermeulen  wrote:
>>
>> Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
>> So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any 
>> sense to translate it.
>>
>> Maarten
>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

[Jerome E. Shidel Jr.]

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:38 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps implementing some of the code from the older installer (FD1.1)?That 
> allowed you to select your packages on install.We could take some of the code 
> from that and use it for our modern ADVANCED mode.

Detailed package selection would not be difficult to create from scratch. I 
just don’t know if I want to spend any time on a separate 
utility that 99.9% of the people who install FreeDOS would never use or see. On 
top of that, I know from what Jim has said, he
has no desire for that feature.

> 
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.  
> wrote:
> Hello Jim,
> 
> Mostly, I don’t think it is too complex.
> 
> It really only has one mode of operation. Fresh install.
> 
> However, it will make a backup and preserve package data when a user
> happens to be upgrading.
> 
> If no language setting was found, the first screen prompts for the language.
> 
> Next is the Welcome to the Installer screen.
> 
> (Clean system, Asks to partition and to format)
> 
> (Pre-existing OS askes to make a backup)
> 
> Install Base/All w/without sources.
> 
> The the install now prompt.
> 
> (installs OS)
> 
> Asks to reboot or exit.
> 
> All of the other prompting and questions are only shown in advanced mode.
> They just provide an opportunity for the user to override default actions and
> assumptions that the installer
> 
> Is there anything in particular that has you concerned?
> 
> Just an FYI, I am really leaning towards not providing detailed package 
> selection
> in advanced mode. I have though of several ways to implement it. But,
> I don’t really like any of the ones I have come up with that don’t require
> a separate utility that does it. I am not going to create a tool just for 
> that.
> So, DPS probably won’t be included in the standard installer.
> 
> Other than DPS, determining what packages are in BASE and ALL, and adding
> languages, the installer is done.
> 
> 
> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> >
> > I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying to 
> > do all things for every use case and every user.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr.  
> > wrote:
> > Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation regarding 
> > package files.
> >
> > At present:
> >
> > DOSDIR is backed up.
> >
> >  All packages that are going to be installed are removed before 
> > installation.
> >
> > Package data files are backed up.
> >
> > The the DOSDIR is purged.
> >
> > Package data files are restored.
> >
> > New packages are installed.
> >
> > Issue:
> >
> > Packages that have files in the DOSDIR, will lose those files.
> >
> > Solution 1: (Present behavior)
> >
> > Let the user worry about it, and let them do a remove/install of 
> > those packages later.
> >
> > Solution 2:
> >
> > Also, uninstall any packages that have any files that reside in the 
> > DOSDIR.
> >
> > Solution 3:
> >
> > Restore the missing files from the backup.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

[JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU]

It could fit in advanced mode.There will be some people who only need
certain packages installed with FreeDOS,or can only fit certain ones.There
may be someone using FreeDOS as an embedded network OS,so they would only
install the network packages,and the EDIT package.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. 
wrote:

>
> > On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:38 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU <
> jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org> wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps implementing some of the code from the older installer
> (FD1.1)?That allowed you to select your packages on install.We could take
> some of the code from that and use it for our modern ADVANCED mode.
>
> Detailed package selection would not be difficult to create from scratch.
> I just don’t know if I want to spend any time on a separate
> utility that 99.9% of the people who install FreeDOS would never use or
> see. On top of that, I know from what Jim has said, he
> has no desire for that feature.
>
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <
> jer...@shidel.net> wrote:
> > Hello Jim,
> >
> > Mostly, I don’t think it is too complex.
> >
> > It really only has one mode of operation. Fresh install.
> >
> > However, it will make a backup and preserve package data when a user
> > happens to be upgrading.
> >
> > If no language setting was found, the first screen prompts for the
> language.
> >
> > Next is the Welcome to the Installer screen.
> >
> > (Clean system, Asks to partition and to format)
> >
> > (Pre-existing OS askes to make a backup)
> >
> > Install Base/All w/without sources.
> >
> > The the install now prompt.
> >
> > (installs OS)
> >
> > Asks to reboot or exit.
> >
> > All of the other prompting and questions are only shown in advanced mode.
> > They just provide an opportunity for the user to override default
> actions and
> > assumptions that the installer
> >
> > Is there anything in particular that has you concerned?
> >
> > Just an FYI, I am really leaning towards not providing detailed package
> selection
> > in advanced mode. I have though of several ways to implement it. But,
> > I don’t really like any of the ones I have come up with that don’t
> require
> > a separate utility that does it. I am not going to create a tool just
> for that.
> > So, DPS probably won’t be included in the standard installer.
> >
> > Other than DPS, determining what packages are in BASE and ALL, and adding
> > languages, the installer is done.
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Jim Hall  wrote:
> > >
> > > I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying
> to do all things for every use case and every user.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <
> jer...@shidel.net> wrote:
> > > Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation
> regarding package files.
> > >
> > > At present:
> > >
> > > DOSDIR is backed up.
> > >
> > >  All packages that are going to be installed are removed
> before installation.
> > >
> > > Package data files are backed up.
> > >
> > > The the DOSDIR is purged.
> > >
> > > Package data files are restored.
> > >
> > > New packages are installed.
> > >
> > > Issue:
> > >
> > > Packages that have files in the DOSDIR, will lose those files.
> > >
> > > Solution 1: (Present behavior)
> > >
> > > Let the user worry about it, and let them do a remove/install
> of those packages later.
> > >
> > > Solution 2:
> > >
> > > Also, uninstall any packages that have any files that reside
> in the DOSDIR.
> > >
> > > Solution 3:
> > >
> > > Restore the missing files from the backup.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Maarten Vermeulen]

I am going to translate the 3 files as well, if I get back a mail from Jim...
Is there a dead line? When should it be finsihed?
It is 80% sure that i help the other 20% (the mail) is not sure.

I hope I can help!

Maarten

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Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." 

Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

Yeah, I am thinking about translating the 3 files to french... just
have a little problem making it a priority.
Guess you should not postpone release if you don't get results soon enough.

2015-12-17 12:27 GMT-05:00 Jerome E. Shidel Jr. :
> I have no problem including any submitted language translation for FDI.
> By it’s inclusion, it would be supported by FDI either through auto-detection 
> or
> setting the LANG environment variable.
>
> I just make no promises that it will be on the Select Language screen.
>
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Maarten Vermeulen  wrote:
>>
>> Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
>> So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any 
>> sense to translate it.
>>
>> Maarten
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Maarten Vermeulen]

I'm going to translate those files.
The mail to Jim was about sometging else then the packages.
Well, I ask the same question to you then: Is the installer a core utillity? :)

I will try to finish it as soon as possible, I really have no idea when the 
release date is

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Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages


> On Dec 17, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Maarten Vermeulen  wrote:
> 
> I am going to translate the 3 files as well, if I get back a mail from Jim...
> Is there a dead line? When should it be finsihed?
> It is 80% sure that i help the other 20% (the mail) is not sure.

No “deadline.” I’m just don’t have any patience. :-) 

The installer is done. Except, maybe Detailed Package Selection. But, I’m 
really starting
to think that won’t be included in the installer. It might make better sense 
for a visual
front end to a package manager be installed when the “All Packages” option is 
selected.
That way, it would keep some complexity out of the installer and the user could 
easily
add and remove packages at will at any time.

We still need to decide exactly what packages are in the BASE and ALL sets.
I made my best guess at what goes into BASE, but that may need tweaked.
As for ALL, I have no idea what Jim wants in the ALL packages. 
Things like FPC, NASM, games or other utilities?

Once that is settled upon, we can do a package snapshot and it can go to Beta 
Testing.

(I’ve been running the FreeDOS 1.2-pre system for a while)

Since, the language stuff is not part of the functionality of the Installer it 
can be added 
at anytime up to actual release. So, there is no hurry. But, sooner is usually 
better. :-)

> 
> I hope I can help!
> 
> Maarten
> Van: Paul Dufresne
> Verzonden: ‎17-‎12-‎2015 19:23
> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages
> 
> Yeah, I am thinking about translating the 3 files to french... just
> have a little problem making it a priority.
> Guess you should not postpone release if you don't get results soon enough.
> 
> 2015-12-17 12:27 GMT-05:00 Jerome E. Shidel Jr. :
> > I have no problem including any submitted language translation for FDI.
> > By it’s inclusion, it would be supported by FDI either through 
> > auto-detection or
> > setting the LANG environment variable.
> >
> > I just make no promises that it will be on the Select Language screen.
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Maarten Vermeulen  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
> >> So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any 
> >> sense to translate it.
> >>
> >> Maarten
> >
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Maarten Vermeulen]

ANSI came with windows 95 right?
If so, dosbox supports ANSI if you have installed 95 on it
I looked some videos about that.

And I never heared of codepage, so I don't know if it does. ;-)


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Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

I am not sure we can expect most languages could be encoded in CP437
(Code page 437 [IBM]).
Maybe a file in CP437 should have something like "CP=850" and then the
3 others file would be encoded in that specific code page. Then the
installer could use chcp to select the codepage before installation.
Does Dosbox support well codepage other 437?

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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Jerome E. Shidel Jr.]

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Maarten Vermeulen  wrote:
> 
> I am going to translate the 3 files as well, if I get back a mail from Jim...
> Is there a dead line? When should it be finsihed?
> It is 80% sure that i help the other 20% (the mail) is not sure.

No “deadline.” I’m just don’t have any patience. :-) 

The installer is done. Except, maybe Detailed Package Selection. But, I’m 
really starting
to think that won’t be included in the installer. It might make better sense 
for a visual
front end to a package manager be installed when the “All Packages” option is 
selected.
That way, it would keep some complexity out of the installer and the user could 
easily
add and remove packages at will at any time.

We still need to decide exactly what packages are in the BASE and ALL sets.
I made my best guess at what goes into BASE, but that may need tweaked.
As for ALL, I have no idea what Jim wants in the ALL packages. 
Things like FPC, NASM, games or other utilities?

Once that is settled upon, we can do a package snapshot and it can go to Beta 
Testing.

(I’ve been running the FreeDOS 1.2-pre system for a while)

Since, the language stuff is not part of the functionality of the Installer it 
can be added 
at anytime up to actual release. So, there is no hurry. But, sooner is usually 
better. :-)

> 
> I hope I can help!
> 
> Maarten
> Van: Paul Dufresne
> Verzonden: ‎17-‎12-‎2015 19:23
> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.
> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages
> 
> Yeah, I am thinking about translating the 3 files to french... just
> have a little problem making it a priority.
> Guess you should not postpone release if you don't get results soon enough.
> 
> 2015-12-17 12:27 GMT-05:00 Jerome E. Shidel Jr. :
> > I have no problem including any submitted language translation for FDI.
> > By it’s inclusion, it would be supported by FDI either through 
> > auto-detection or
> > setting the LANG environment variable.
> >
> > I just make no promises that it will be on the Select Language screen.
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Maarten Vermeulen  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, google translte is not needed, I am dutch.
> >> So I would like to do that, but if dutch isn't used it doesn't make any 
> >> sense to translate it.
> >>
> >> Maarten
> >
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Paul Dufresne]

I am not sure we can expect most languages could be encoded in CP437
(Code page 437 [IBM]).
Maybe a file in CP437 should have something like "CP=850" and then the
3 others file would be encoded in that specific code page. Then the
installer could use chcp to select the codepage before installation.
Does Dosbox support well codepage other 437?

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