Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages
On 21/12/2015 00:02, Rugxulo wrote: >> util\fdnpkg > > Presumably latest here? (0.99.4 "<8 hours ago", according to SF.net page) Good catch! I did release (silently) FDNPKG to v0.99.4 yesterday. Since it contains nothing big from the user's point of view, I didn't feel that it justify announcing it anywhere. But yes, here it is :) >> devel\fpc > > 3.0.0 was released recently, but there is no "package" for it yet. Same goes for DJGPP. And FreeBASIC. And surely many more packages. This is one of the issues that I pointed to in my latest "call for volunteers" on the user list. But since call remained completely unanswered, I assume nobody cares. So why bother? Mateusz -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages
On 20/12/2015 23:48, Rugxulo wrote: > ("BASE" does have both "uide" and "xmgr" but not "udvd2", so I'm not > sure why we don't just combine all that RDISK+UIDE+XMGR (etc.) into > one package) I think that was me who exploded this into different packages. The rationale was that when users look for a package, they look for something that performs a given function - being a ramdisk, or CD driver, or memory manager... Having all of these bundled in one package lowers the visibility of what it actually contains. The only reason it comes all together 'upstream' is because it comes from the same developer, but that's not enough of a reason in my opinion to keep it bundled as a single FreeDOS package. Mateusz -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages
Hi all, PPS: Maybe the CPI directory of FreeDOS could ship with a TXT file giving a list of which fonts can be found in which CPX or CPI file? There are four TXT files in the CPIDOS package with plenty of information; I'm available for further explanation, if necessary. Henrique -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages
Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. > > Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. > > This list includes all packages in the BASE. I just did not include them here > to > shorten the list. > > ; The remaining packages are only installed when ALL is chosen. > net\mtcp > util\4dos (I know some people can't live without this. I just hate the idea that it somehow taints the whole bunch due to ambiguous license.) > util\doslfn Which version? 0.41c? > util\fdnpkg Presumably latest here? (0.99.4 "<8 hours ago", according to SF.net page) > util\memtest Uh, you mean Eric's old patched version? Version?? > util\bootfix > util\shsufdrv BTW, the licensing is slightly ambiguous here (IMO), but Jason Hood told me that it's "zlib". > util\cwsdpmi Please make sure r7 only (although including both r5 2008 and r7 wouldn't be the worst idea, but I seriously don't know of any obvious reason to do that). > archiver\zip 2.32? (I still don't know why we never "officially" had 3.00, not that it majorly matters.) > archiver\unzip 6.00? > ; Some packages I would like to see in ALL. > util\grep Xgrep? (No LFNs, no *nix globbing, but it's very small!) http://freedos.sourceforge.net/software/?prog=xgrep > archiver\tar Which? ("UTIL" does include an ancient 16-bit one.) http://freedos.sourceforge.net/software/?prog=tar > archiver\gzip Which? (I'm assuming only the old 16-bit one and not the 386+ DJGPP build.) http://freedos.sourceforge.net/software/?prog=gzip > archiver\bz2 (386+ DJGPP only) http://freedos.sourceforge.net/software/?prog=bzip2 > devel\nasm Which? Latest is 2.11.08. http://freedos.sourceforge.net/software/?prog=nasm http://www.nasm.us/ > devel\fpc 3.0.0 was released recently, but there is no "package" for it yet. It would be quite large (which is annoying), but perhaps LZMA (which Mateusz dislikes) would mitigate that. > net\wget Michael Kostylev made a (slightly) newer version semi-recently, but I have no idea if he included all patches or not (as things like that are a pain to rebuild). So I'm not honestly sure if 1.11 is that much worse than 1.12 (and certainly the latter is much larger). (He also rebuilt Curl, but I have the same worries. I may just mirror them to iBiblio anyways, lacking any direct proof of error.) http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=14569 > net\rsync Dunno if that's even available, can't remember, never tried it. EDIT: Here's what we seem to have (but it's not officially listed under "NET", apparently): https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/net/rsync/ -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages
Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Given the changes in DOS since 2.X until now, Edlin and EXE2BIN should be > optional. DOS 5 replaced Edlin with EDIT and EXE2BIN wasn't included with > DOS after 3.3 or 4.01. DOS also stopped providing LINK.EXE around that time, too. Presumably all the development tools were better found elsewhere (bundled with MS C or whatever). I didn't think EXE2BIN was useful at all without some kind of assembler or compiler, but people here seemed to disagree with me. (This particular one comes from OpenWatcom 1.5 anyways, so ) > Which memory manager offers the most compatibility? FDXMS or HIMEMX? Presumably HIMEMX. Not sure that FDXMS has been as widely tested (although nothing is anymore, sigh). I just wonder which version is Jerome including (3.32? 3.34?). Anyone have a strong preference either way? (I'd obviously suggest 3.34, but again, I don't know how widely tested it's been. Just having that 386 patch is good but not necessarily good enough to prefer it exclusively.) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages
Hi, I don't know how useful this is (esp. this late in the release process), but On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I left anything out or should remove something. > > base\append > base\assign > base\attrib > base\chkdsk > base\choice > base\command > base\comp base\country ? (but isn't it included in kernel?) > base\cpidos > base\ctmouse (eventually we need to replace bundled com2exe, which AFAIK isn't majorly useful) > base\debug > base\defrag > base\deltree (make sure this isn't UPX'd as 186+ only) > base\devload > base\diskcomp > base\diskcopy > base\display > base\dosfsck > base\edit > base\edlin > base\exe2bin (I still say nobody needs exe2bin) base\fasthelp? (probably not majorly needed) > base\fc > base\fdapm > base\fdisk (which fdisk? FD only? no XFdisk? I also need to reinvestigate SPFdisk one of these days) > base\find (this LFN version is still buggy, AFAIR) > base\format > base\fdxms (fdxms is technically not listed in "BASE" but whatever) > base\fdxms286 base\graphics? (but I doubt most people have compatible printers anyways) > base\help > base\jemm (probably should remove JLOAD and *.JLM first) > base\himemx > base\kernel (this should also have SHARE and COUNTRY, right?) > base\keyb > base\keyb_lay (aka, base\kpdos?) base\kc? > base\label > base\lbacache > base\mem > base\mirror > base\mkeyb > base\mode (I guess not to wait for this minor bugfix release) > base\more > base\move (sigh, we still never fixed the +r bug) > base\nansi > base\nlsfunc > base\print > base\rdisk > base\recover (I seriously question the usefulness of RECOVER, I doubt anyone would miss it) > base\replace > base\share (isn't the one bundled with the kernel preferred? what still needs this, Win3x??) > base\shsucdx > base\sort > base\swsubst (does this work at all anymore??) > base\tree > base\undelete > base\unformat > base\xcopy > base\xmgr > util\udvd2 ("BASE" does have both "uide" and "xmgr" but not "udvd2", so I'm not sure why we don't just combine all that RDISK+UIDE+XMGR (etc.) into one package) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages
Hi, An assembler and a Pascal compiler. Missing BASIC and C/C++. That would make the programming languages complete. You should probably mention sources for all packages in the "everything" install. Base should just reference that the sources are on the install media. IIRC, most Linux distributions don't specifically install the source code unless requested by the end user. -T On Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 4:55 PM Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. > > Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. > > This list includes all packages in the BASE. I just did not include them > here to > shorten the list. > > ; The remaining packages are only installed when ALL is chosen. > net\mtcp > util\4dos > util\doslfn > util\fdnpkg > util\memtest > util\bootfix > util\shsufdrv > util\cwsdpmi > archiver\zip > archiver\unzip > > ; Some packages I would like to see in ALL. > util\grep > archiver\tar > archiver\gzip > archiver\bz2 > devel\nasm > devel\fpc > net\wget > net\rsync > > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages
Hi, Given the changes in DOS since 2.X until now, Edlin and EXE2BIN should be optional. DOS 5 replaced Edlin with EDIT and EXE2BIN wasn't included with DOS after 3.3 or 4.01. Which memory manager offers the most compatibility? FDXMS or HIMEMX? -T On Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 4:53 PM Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. > > Please note that I switched out UIDE for UDVD2. UIDE was causing strange > disk errors with FDINST and with FreeCOM. > > Remember this is the Minimalist, MS-DOS functionality only BASE for > FreeDOS 1.2. > > Please let me know if I left anything out or should remove something. > > Also, V8Power Tools is not installed when only BASE is selected. > > ; Package list for BASE only installation. > > base\append > base\assign > base\attrib > base\chkdsk > base\choice > base\command > base\comp > base\cpidos > base\ctmouse > base\debug > base\defrag > base\deltree > base\devload > base\diskcomp > base\diskcopy > base\display > base\dosfsck > base\edit > base\edlin > base\exe2bin > base\fc > base\fdapm > base\fdisk > base\find > base\format > base\fdxms > base\fdxms286 > base\help > base\jemm > base\himemx > base\kernel > base\keyb > base\keyb_lay > base\label > base\lbacache > base\mem > base\mirror > base\mkeyb > base\mode > base\more > base\move > base\nansi > base\nlsfunc > base\print > base\rdisk > base\recover > base\replace > base\share > base\shsucdx > base\sort > base\swsubst > base\tree > base\undelete > base\unformat > base\xcopy > base\xmgr > util\udvd2 > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages
This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. This list includes all packages in the BASE. I just did not include them here to shorten the list. ; The remaining packages are only installed when ALL is chosen. net\mtcp util\4dos util\doslfn util\fdnpkg util\memtest util\bootfix util\shsufdrv util\cwsdpmi archiver\zip archiver\unzip ; Some packages I would like to see in ALL. util\grep archiver\tar archiver\gzip archiver\bz2 devel\nasm devel\fpc net\wget net\rsync -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages
This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. Please note that I switched out UIDE for UDVD2. UIDE was causing strange disk errors with FDINST and with FreeCOM. Remember this is the Minimalist, MS-DOS functionality only BASE for FreeDOS 1.2. Please let me know if I left anything out or should remove something. Also, V8Power Tools is not installed when only BASE is selected. ; Package list for BASE only installation. base\append base\assign base\attrib base\chkdsk base\choice base\command base\comp base\cpidos base\ctmouse base\debug base\defrag base\deltree base\devload base\diskcomp base\diskcopy base\display base\dosfsck base\edit base\edlin base\exe2bin base\fc base\fdapm base\fdisk base\find base\format base\fdxms base\fdxms286 base\help base\jemm base\himemx base\kernel base\keyb base\keyb_lay base\label base\lbacache base\mem base\mirror base\mkeyb base\mode base\more base\move base\nansi base\nlsfunc base\print base\rdisk base\recover base\replace base\share base\shsucdx base\sort base\swsubst base\tree base\undelete base\unformat base\xcopy base\xmgr util\udvd2 -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel