Re: [Freedos-devel] Let me count the ways

2021-12-25 Thread Gregory Pietsch
Not to mention that one can compile Edlin either using the msgs-*.h or 
something closer to the message catalogs. I am still waiting for 
Klingon, but I have close to 20 sets of language strings.


Gregory

On 12/25/2021 3:31 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote:

Thank you for your help in testing RC5.

So far, testing has gone very well.

Regarding installation and the media, there have been a few minor 
issues that have been already corrected. A couple that still need 
fixed and a few things that need investigated further. This of course 
is not referring to bugs reported in things like the drivers, 
installed programs, kernel, etc. Just the two installers and release 
media. Most issues were regarding NLS.


There are a multitude of ways to install FreeDOS 1.3-RC5. There are so 
many variations it is impractical for just a few people to test. 
Having the community root out edge case issues is a big help.


How many variations for installation can occur? Let me count (most of) 
the ways…


  * boot LiveCD to Live Environment, run setup. (uses primary
installer FDI, normal mode)
  * boot LiveCD to Live Environment, run setup adv (FDI in advanced mode)
  * boot LiveCD to Live Environment, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup
(uses FloppyEdition installer, FDI-x86 in normal mode from a subdir)
  * boot LiveCD to Live Environment, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup
adv (FDI-x86 in advanced mode from a subdir)
  * boot LiveCD to Install to Hard Disk. (FDI in normal mode)
  * boot LiveCD to Install to Hard Disk, exit and run setup adv (FDI
in advanced mode)
  * boot LiveCD using Easter Egg, (FDI-x86 in advanced mode from a HD
image)
  * boot LiveCD using Easter Egg, exit installer run setup (FDI-x86 in
normal mode from a HD image)
  * boot LegacyCD (FDI in normal mode)
  * boot LegacyCD, exit and run setup adv (FDI in advanced mode)
  * boot LegacyCD, exit, change to FDI-x86, run setup (FDI-x86)
  * boot LegacyCD, exit, change to FDI-x86, run setup adv
  * boot LiteUSB (FDI in normal mode)
  * boot LiteUSB, exit and run setup adv
  * boot FullUSB
  * boot FullUSB, exit, run setup adv
  * boot FullUSB, exit, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup (FDI-x86)
  * boot FullUSB, exit, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup adv
  * boot FloppyEdition (any diskette version), (FDI-x86 normal mode)
  * boot FloppyEdition (any diskette version), exit, run setup adv
(FDI-x86 in advanced mode)

  * xcopy FloppyEdition to some hard disk subdir and run setup.
  * xcopy FloppyEdition to some hard disk subdir and run setup adv.


all the CD versions, boot from CD boot Floppy and repeat.
all versions, preexisting OS installed or not, then with backup or not.
all versions, BASE or FULL, with our without sources.
all ADVANCED FDI installers, custom user package selection.
all FDI versions, variations on user language and keyboard settings.

Once that is done, repeat all steps on different virtual machines and 
different hardware.


Perhaps if your good a math, you could figure out all the 
permutations. Don’t forget all those multipliers. :-)


And this only covers the most likely scenarios. There are others.

Only the config and boot process changes.  The two installers and 
tools are the same. While many of the items mentioned effect the 
installers in subtle ways, some tests only verify no pieces went 
missing during media creation.


It’s far to much for one or two people to fully test.

Once again, thank you for your assistance.

:-)

Jerome





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Re: [Freedos-devel] Let me count the ways

2021-12-25 Thread tom ehlert
Hallo Herr Jerome Shidel,

> How many variations for installation can occur? Let me count (most of) the 
> ways…


> boot LiveCD to Live Environment, run setup. (uses primary installer
> FDI, normal mode)boot LiveCD to Live Environment, run setup adv (FDI
> in advanced mode)boot LiveCD to Live Environment, change to FDI-x86
> dir, run setup (uses FloppyEdition installer, FDI-x86 in normal mode
> from a subdir)boot LiveCD to Live Environment, change to FDI-x86
> dir, run setup adv (FDI-x86 in advanced mode from a subdir)boot
> LiveCD to Install to Hard Disk. (FDI in normal mode)boot LiveCD to
> Install to Hard Disk, exit and run setup adv (FDI in advanced
> mode)boot LiveCD using Easter Egg, (FDI-x86 in advanced mode from a
> HD image)boot LiveCD using Easter Egg, exit installer run setup
> (FDI-x86 in normal mode from a HD image)boot LegacyCD (FDI in normal
> mode)boot LegacyCD, exit and run setup adv (FDI in advanced
> mode)boot LegacyCD, exit, change to FDI-x86, run setup (FDI-x86)boot
> LegacyCD, exit, change to FDI-x86, run setup advboot LiteUSB (FDI in
> normal mode)boot LiteUSB, exit and run setup adv boot FullUSBboot
> FullUSB, exit, run setup advboot FullUSB, exit, change to FDI-x86
> dir, run setup (FDI-x86)boot FullUSB, exit, change to FDI-x86 dir,
> run setup advboot FloppyEdition (any diskette version), (FDI-x86
> normal mode)boot FloppyEdition (any diskette version), exit, run
> setup adv (FDI-x86 in advanced mode)

> xcopy FloppyEdition to some hard disk subdir and run setup.xcopy
> FloppyEdition to some hard disk subdir and run setup adv.

being a programmer, I had expected that ALL of these different methods
to install freedos would have resulted in 2 possible different
outcomes: normal mode, and advanced mode.

otherwise this is indeed a problem.

fortunately you are the person that created the problem, and the
person most able to solve the problem.

good luck

Tom




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[Freedos-devel] Let me count the ways

2021-12-25 Thread Jerome Shidel
Thank you for your help in testing RC5.

So far, testing has gone very well. 

Regarding installation and the media, there have been a few minor issues that 
have been already corrected. A couple that still need fixed and a few things 
that need investigated further. This of course is not referring to bugs 
reported in things like the drivers, installed programs, kernel, etc. Just the 
two installers and release media. Most issues were regarding NLS. 

There are a multitude of ways to install FreeDOS 1.3-RC5. There are so many 
variations it is impractical for just a few people to test. Having the 
community root out edge case issues is a big help. 

How many variations for installation can occur? Let me count (most of) the ways…

boot LiveCD to Live Environment, run setup. (uses primary installer FDI, normal 
mode)
boot LiveCD to Live Environment, run setup adv (FDI in advanced mode)
boot LiveCD to Live Environment, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup (uses 
FloppyEdition installer, FDI-x86 in normal mode from a subdir)
boot LiveCD to Live Environment, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup adv (FDI-x86 
in advanced mode from a subdir)
boot LiveCD to Install to Hard Disk. (FDI in normal mode)
boot LiveCD to Install to Hard Disk, exit and run setup adv (FDI in advanced 
mode)
boot LiveCD using Easter Egg, (FDI-x86 in advanced mode from a HD image)
boot LiveCD using Easter Egg, exit installer run setup (FDI-x86 in normal mode 
from a HD image)
boot LegacyCD (FDI in normal mode)
boot LegacyCD, exit and run setup adv (FDI in advanced mode)
boot LegacyCD, exit, change to FDI-x86, run setup (FDI-x86)
boot LegacyCD, exit, change to FDI-x86, run setup adv
boot LiteUSB (FDI in normal mode)
boot LiteUSB, exit and run setup adv 
boot FullUSB
boot FullUSB, exit, run setup adv
boot FullUSB, exit, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup (FDI-x86)
boot FullUSB, exit, change to FDI-x86 dir, run setup adv
boot FloppyEdition (any diskette version), (FDI-x86 normal mode)
boot FloppyEdition (any diskette version), exit, run setup adv (FDI-x86 in 
advanced mode)
xcopy FloppyEdition to some hard disk subdir and run setup.
xcopy FloppyEdition to some hard disk subdir and run setup adv.

all the CD versions, boot from CD boot Floppy and repeat.
all versions, preexisting OS installed or not, then with backup or not.
all versions, BASE or FULL, with our without sources.
all ADVANCED FDI installers, custom user package selection.
all FDI versions, variations on user language and keyboard settings.

Once that is done, repeat all steps on different virtual machines and different 
hardware.

Perhaps if your good a math, you could figure out all the permutations. Don’t 
forget all those multipliers. :-)

And this only covers the most likely scenarios. There are others.

Only the config and boot process changes.  The two installers and tools are the 
same. While many of the items mentioned effect the installers in subtle ways, 
some tests only verify no pieces went missing during media creation. 

It’s far to much for one or two people to fully test. 

Once again, thank you for your assistance.

:-)

Jerome



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