Re: [Freedos-devel] Almost there with the updated FreeDOS website

2022-01-24 Thread Emir SARI via Freedos-devel
Hello Jim,

Glad to see a website redesign. Just some comments at first glance:

- “Download FreeDOS” and “FreeDOS on YouTube” buttons would work better 
aligned, maybe a nice command prompt screenshot would help? Currently looks a 
bit empty with the whitespace on top and bottom. Also a screenshot is kind of 
necessary for showcasing an operating system.
- "What you need” part takes too much space, it would be nice to have it a bit 
more compact. Again, buttons on the right look too lonely.
- The website typeface looks a bit outdated (too 2003). Maybe using Helvetica, 
and then falling back to Arial and Liberation Sans for Windows and Linux 
systems respectively would look better? There are better typefaces but I’d 
rather not increase the page load with web fonts. This is subjective though, 
just my personal preference.
- An automatic dark mode would be a nice perk.
- Putting “Bugs” to main page does not communicate well. “Development” would be 
better, since I see that it links to Gitlab. Bug report information can still 
be added.
- Renaming “Forums” as “Community” would express itself better.

In addition to above, just something that I thought of right now…

While we’re at it, you might want to consider registering the #freedos channel 
on Libera IRC server, and advertising it on the website. For the next phase, 
bridging this channel with XMPP and Matrix (and maybe Discord since it’s too 
popular) would definitely enlarge the community and help new development power 
come into being.

Best regards,
Emir (ఽ఺఍)

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Almost there with the updated FreeDOS website

2022-01-24 Thread Jim Hall
Thanks for identifying I forgot the Source Code link. Looks like I missed
that one; I'll re-add it.

The links to documentation are now on the front page, so they are meant to
be one of the first things you see when you visit the website. We'll see if
users can find documentation *during a website visit* when we do usability
testing. I'll ask students to include that in their scenario planning.

Thanks


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 2:03 AM Ladislav Lacina  wrote:

> Hello!
> Yes, your redesign is a leap forward. However in the upper menu I miss
> links "join development" and "documentation"
> Laaca
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> Od: Jim Hall 
> Komu: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <
> freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum: 24. 1. 2022 1:06:30
> Předmět: [Freedos-devel] Almost there with the updated FreeDOS website
>
> Thanks everyone for your feedback on the updated FreeDOS website. I'm
> *almost* there with the updated site, and I'm hoping to put it live in
> a few days.
>
> If you'd like to see the work in progress:
> https://test.freedos.org/
>
>
> What's done:
>
> - front page
> - Forums
> - my page
> - my Patreon page
> - History
> - Trademark
> - Impressum
> - Books
>
>
> Not done yet:
>
> - About
> - About -> Games
> - About -> Applications
> - About -> Programming
> - Download
> - News (need to build a new feed, but that's minor)
> - Bugs (also planning a form to enter a bug report to GitLab without a
> GitLab account)
>
>
> I haven't added the "latest version is" text on the front page yet,
> but that's on my "to-do" list as well.
>
> I'm incorporating the content from the old Links page into each of the
> "About" pages. For example, I'll link to where to download the free
> {personal use} Turbo C and Desmet C when you're on the "About ->
> Programming" page. By incorporating the links on these pages, my goal
> is to eliminate the old Links page entirely.
>
>
> Also:
> I've been planning the new website for many months now, going through
> several iterations in design and content organization. I think the
> current version is looking really good. However, all designs can be
> improved. I'm working with a university professor at MTU and his
> Usability class in Spring semester (that's right now) to do a
> usability test for the new website.
>
> The Usability students need to have a "frozen" version of the website
> to test against, so the site doesn't change while they are testing it.
> Once I make the new website live, the students will do their tests
> using the https://test.freedos.org/ website. I might make tweaks to
> the www site during that time, but not to the test site until the
> students are done with their tests (semester ends in early May).
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Almost there with the updated FreeDOS website

2022-01-24 Thread Ladislav Lacina
Hello!
Yes, your redesign is a leap forward. However in the upper menu I miss links
"join development" and "documentation"
Laaca
-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Jim Hall 
Komu: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
Datum: 24. 1. 2022 1:06:30
Předmět: [Freedos-devel] Almost there with the updated FreeDOS website
"Thanks everyone for your feedback on the updated FreeDOS website. I'm
*almost* there with the updated site, and I'm hoping to put it live in
a few days.

If you'd like to see the work in progress:
https://test.freedos.org/


What's done:

- front page
- Forums
- my page
- my Patreon page
- History
- Trademark
- Impressum
- Books


Not done yet:

- About
- About -> Games
- About -> Applications
- About -> Programming
- Download
- News (need to build a new feed, but that's minor)
- Bugs (also planning a form to enter a bug report to GitLab without a
GitLab account)


I haven't added the "latest version is" text on the front page yet,
but that's on my "to-do" list as well.

I'm incorporating the content from the old Links page into each of the
"About" pages. For example, I'll link to where to download the free
{personal use} Turbo C and Desmet C when you're on the "About ->
Programming" page. By incorporating the links on these pages, my goal
is to eliminate the old Links page entirely.


Also:
I've been planning the new website for many months now, going through
several iterations in design and content organization. I think the
current version is looking really good. However, all designs can be
improved. I'm working with a university professor at MTU and his
Usability class in Spring semester (that's right now) to do a
usability test for the new website.

The Usability students need to have a "frozen" version of the website
to test against, so the site doesn't change while they are testing it.
Once I make the new website live, the students will do their tests
using the https://test.freedos.org/ website. I might make tweaks to
the www site during that time, but not to the test site until the
students are done with their tests (semester ends in early May).


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