Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
Long story short: Doszip is pretty perfect unless you need 8086 support. http://sf.net/projects/doszip (Anyways, a decent file manager isn't essential by any means, and surely there are dozens of other file managers, I'm probably forgetting a few. Maybe they're open source, who knows, I can't remember them all ! You can check the mirrors of Short.Stop pages, perhaps, to find a good one.) Doszip is already listed in our Util section on the software list, anyway. So that's good. -jh -- 5 Ways to Improve Secure Unified Communications Unified Communications promises greater efficiencies for business. UC can improve internal communications as well as offer faster, more efficient ways to interact with customers and streamline customer service. Learn more! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51426253/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
Hi, some suggestion to comment on the list :-) From marinelluccia1 tiscali.it: Hi at all, please remember to include in distro 1.1 a shell for freedos. i suggest freedos shell from Emanuele Cipolla http://fdshell.sourceforge.net/ because it's more standard doshell clone i've found. Emanuele can be contacted via his site : http://www.emanuelecipolla.net/it/ If someone have another clone of doshell can suggest... Thanks Roberto iw2evk Milan -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
I don't know that I've used this DOSSHELL before. I just tried it now, and once I got used to the key commands, it seemed easy to use, and very nice. The source requires Microsoft BASIC Compiler to build. Is there a free version of Microsoft BASIC Compiler (DOS) out there? I haven't found it on Microsoft's site. Or perhaps a compatible BASIC compiler that will build this DOSSHELL? To keep FreeDOS free we need to use free software tools wherever possible. That's why we encourage NASM and OpenWatcom, and other free tools. We have a few programs still that use Borland's TurboC compiler, but I believe this is still available for free download via their Museum site, or the programs can be compiled using another compiler anyway. So I'm looking for a Museum free download area on Microsoft's web site for the BASIC Compiler, or a compatible BASIC compiler. -jh On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi, some suggestion to comment on the list :-) From marinelluccia1 tiscali.it: Hi at all, please remember to include in distro 1.1 a shell for freedos. i suggest freedos shell from Emanuele Cipolla http://fdshell.sourceforge.net/ because it's more standard doshell clone i've found. Emanuele can be contacted via his site : http://www.emanuelecipolla.net/it/ If someone have another clone of doshell can suggest... Thanks Roberto iw2evk -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
Hi, On 7/17/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: I don't know that I've used this DOSSHELL before. I just tried it now, and once I got used to the key commands, it seemed easy to use, and very nice. It looks okay, but it's fairly minimal. I'd heavily prefer Doszip, honestly. The source requires Microsoft BASIC Compiler to build. Is there a free version of Microsoft BASIC Compiler (DOS) out there? I haven't found it on Microsoft's site. Or perhaps a compatible BASIC compiler that will build this DOSSHELL? VBDOS is what it used. I think? FreeBASIC has some compatibility, but probably not enough, esp. the TUI stuff. I'm sure it could be ported, but it's probably a fairly big rewrite to do that. But no, I don't know of any other suitable freeware projects that would substitute, not by MS either. To keep FreeDOS free we need to use free software tools wherever possible. That's why we encourage NASM and OpenWatcom, and other free tools. We have a few programs still that use Borland's TurboC compiler, but I believe this is still available for free download via their Museum site, or the programs can be compiled using another compiler anyway. So I'm looking for a Museum free download area on Microsoft's web site for the BASIC Compiler, or a compatible BASIC compiler. Doszip at least can build with OpenWatcom and JWasm, so that's good. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On 7/17/11, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: I don't know that I've used this DOSSHELL before. I just tried it now, and once I got used to the key commands, it seemed easy to use, and very nice. It looks okay, but it's fairly minimal. I'd heavily prefer Doszip, honestly. The source requires Microsoft BASIC Compiler to build. Is there a free version of Microsoft BASIC Compiler (DOS) out there? I haven't found it on Microsoft's site. Or perhaps a compatible BASIC compiler that will build this DOSSHELL? VBDOS is what it used. I think? FreeBASIC has some compatibility, but probably not enough, esp. the TUI stuff. I'm sure it could be ported, but it's probably a fairly big rewrite to do that. But no, I don't know of any other suitable freeware projects that would substitute, not by MS either. Yeah, no. :/ To keep FreeDOS free we need to use free software tools wherever possible. That's why we encourage NASM and OpenWatcom, and other free tools. We have a few programs still that use Borland's TurboC compiler, but I believe this is still available for free download via their Museum site, or the programs can be compiled using another compiler anyway. So I'm looking for a Museum free download area on Microsoft's web site for the BASIC Compiler, or a compatible BASIC compiler. Doszip at least can build with OpenWatcom and JWasm, so that's good. Can the 16-bit version of DOS Navigator be made to build on OpenWatcom? That's a pretty good shell (Norton Commander clone) using what looks like a TurboVision interface. -uso. -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
Op 17-7-2011 23:01, Jim Hall schreef: To keep FreeDOS free we need to use free software tools wherever possible. That's why we encourage NASM and OpenWatcom, and other free tools. We have a few programs still that use Borland's TurboC compiler, but I believe this is still available for free download via their Museum site, or the programs can be compiled using another compiler anyway. So I'm looking for a Museum free download area on Microsoft's web site for the BASIC Compiler, or a compatible BASIC compiler. I'm adhering to the 'freely usable and distributable' terms at least, which usually excludes shareware and in quite a few cases also freeware, trialware and 'free for personal and/or non-commercial' stuff. The preference is indeed software that's opensource or some kind of likewise-spirited set of conditions, and with legally usable compilers. However there's been plenty of software that wasn't refused simply because of only TASM, MASM, TurboC etc could compile it (instead of NASM and Openwatcom). I've had a short look at FDSHELL, looks usable. Also looked at Access/XX, usable but too large for a base distribution. Same for the AURA desktop (apparently formerly DOSCORE or OZONEGUI I think) of which a self-booting ISO can be found at: http://finncomputers.com/aura/download (not sure if it stays running on DOS or not, who knows..) -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] suggestion - add fdshell to freedos 1.1
Hi, On 7/17/11, Steve Nickolas lyricalnan...@usotsuki.hoshinet.org wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Rugxulo wrote: Doszip at least can build with OpenWatcom and JWasm, so that's good. Can the 16-bit version of DOS Navigator be made to build on OpenWatcom? That's a pretty good shell (Norton Commander clone) using what looks like a TurboVision interface. Doubt it, esp. since all DN clones use some form of Pascal (due to original's sources). The original DN151 and perhaps old DNOSP 6.4.0 were both real mode (16-bit), but neither is able to be compiled (last I checked!) with FPC or similar (GPC?) open toolset. NDN (closed) and DN/2 (open) both used VP (closed). Honestly, I don't even remember whether DN151 is truly free/libre. Oh well. Long story short: Doszip is pretty perfect unless you need 8086 support. http://sf.net/projects/doszip (Anyways, a decent file manager isn't essential by any means, and surely there are dozens of other file managers, I'm probably forgetting a few. Maybe they're open source, who knows, I can't remember them all ! You can check the mirrors of Short.Stop pages, perhaps, to find a good one.) -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
