Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:00:54 -0300, Alain wrote: INHO and considering that FreeDOS is in C versus all other DOSes being in ASM ROM-DOS, our greatest living competitor (not speaking of the venerable DR-DOS that is still in coma and PC-DOS that must have finally died in 2002) is also written 90% in C but uses much more conventional RAM. But what we talk about is *data*, not code, so language doesn't matter. I believe that we should just _CELEBRATE_ :) FreeDOS 7.1: 10688 MS-DOS 7.1: 9680 PC-DOS 7.1: 9456 Where's the Champaigne? ;-) Lucho --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:22:20 + (GMT), Bart Oldeman wrote: Can you check again? I think I solved at least Lucho's problem during the init phase -- when fnodes could overlap disk buffers! Weird things could happen indeed. Congratulations, Bart! Bug fixed indeed - just tried. But I keep thinking that the right place for the far fnodes is the HMA (I haven't checked yet your latest CVS changes though - you work lightning fast! ;-) By the way, you're a good detective (but in time you'll see that I'm also not a bad one ;-) Lucho --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
Hi! 27--2004 12:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG Bad news: the new build batch files don't do anything in 4DOS, probably BO it's picky about BO call config BO instead of BO call config.bat And? [BTW, just check under freecom - also all works.] PS: I not against of using explict extensions, but wonder what wrong in given case? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70alloc_id638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
Hi! 27--2004 21:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Becuase I show in skipped part you, that this doesn't (always) works. BO that (not accepting call default.bat) is a bug in 4dos 6.02 then that call cls.com calls internal command both in NDOS and command.com also, so this is not a bug, but a feature. :( BO Personally I would like to compile the kernel without batch files using BO a simple make. Problem is that we're dealing with n incompatible MAKEs. Problem is same, as with shells - too many different and often incompatible ones. BO Also at the time Tom mentioned that he found batch files easier to debug. I agreed - MAKE execution (sometime) isn't completely transparent and it can't replace the shell: for example, what about conditional execution? Something like if exist file set var=path? BO * GNU Make is not shipped with FreeDOS, and the last time I checked it the BO 8086 version from GNUish wasn't terribly stable (could have been an FD BO kernel problem though) I wonder why, but (almost) all GNU tools executables are too big and not always available under DOS (especially 16-bit). :( BO * OW WMAKE also uses quite a bit of memory and can't swap. For BC I use MAKER -S (which I also add into config.b). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id70alloc_id638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
The patched kernel behaves very strangely! :-( It outputs an error for DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIRAM.EXE line and doesn't load it and repeates this with many other lines (but not all). For my simpler floppy configuration, it doesn't load HIMEM64.EXE without even showing an error! The current nightly-kernel may have reached a new landmark in the quest for smaller conventinal-memory footprint but it lost ground in usability and compatibility. My test-machines halt on various arbitrary points telling me: more than two near fnodes requested at the same time Can you check again? I think I solved at least Lucho's problem during the init phase -- when fnodes could overlap disk buffers! Weird things could happen indeed. After booting I haven't seen the message you quote though, so please let me know how to reproduce if it still occurs for you. I made an intermediate kernel tarball just in case the cronjob fails. Bart --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
The patched kernel behaves very strangely! :-( It outputs an error for DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIRAM.EXE line and doesn't load it and repeates this with many other lines (but not all). For my simpler floppy configuration, it doesn't load HIMEM64.EXE without even showing an error! The current nightly-kernel may have reached a new landmark in the quest for smaller conventinal-memory footprint but it lost ground in usability and compatibility. My test-machines halt on various arbitrary points telling me: more than two near fnodes requested at the same time :-/ Erwin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
The current nightly-kernel may have reached a new landmark in the quest for smaller conventinal-memory footprint but it lost ground in usability and compatibility. My test-machines halt on various arbitrary points telling me: more than two near fnodes requested at the same time ok that's good. It means that that panic was justified to implement for me as a failsafe. Remember CVS is for (public) development, released kernels should never have this behaviour so I'll have to fix something... Sure, not meant for end-users. I just figured it would be good to raise an alert about the current kernel to back up Lucho's remark. Bart Erwin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.
The current nightly-kernel may have reached a new landmark in the quest for smaller conventinal-memory footprint but it lost ground in usability and compatibility. My test-machines halt on various arbitrary points telling me: more than two near fnodes requested at the same time if files=10 would work for you, then there are 10 of those f-nodes. maybe that's the minimum that should be kept in conventional memory? move all i-nodes except (the first?/lowest?) 10 into HMA don't know if this is possible. Bart is the expert here. Bernd --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-kernel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-kernel
