Re: [Freedos-user] Writing Utilities for FreeDOS

2004-04-25 Thread Yann Bénigot
Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote:

Jay Maus wrote:

Wow, I'm impressed by all the discussion this has sparked. It's good 
to see
an active dev community. So I think I'm nearly ready to start futzing 
around
with FreeDOS code, but it's still a little foreign to me: I'm used to 
32-bit
Windows C++. In Visual Studio, no less. Are there any good books or 
online
guides out there for learning intermediate [Free]DOS 16-bit C 
programming?

Also, do I need a native FreeDOS environment to compile in, or can I
cross-compile with gcc? Also also, is there a good IDE that'll run in
Windows XP, or do I need to use RHIDE in something like DOSBox? I 
remember
using RHIDE on my old old old 486 Laptop the first time I started 
playing
around with DOS code, but it was unbearably slow.

Thanks, I'm really appreciative of the FreeDOS community.
--Jay


gcc can compile and cross-compile 32-bit DOS stuff, but not 16... for 
16-bit C you'll prolly need a DOS-based compiler running on some form 
or emulation of DOS, or Watcom runs native on NT...

-uso.



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To recompile FreeDOS stuff,I use dosemu 1.2/TurboC 2.01(now freeware).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Writing Utilities for FreeDOS

2004-04-25 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi,

Jay Maus escribió:

Wow, I'm impressed by all the discussion this has sparked. It's good to see
an active dev community. So I think I'm nearly ready to start futzing around
with FreeDOS code, but it's still a little foreign to me: I'm used to 32-bit
Windows C++. In Visual Studio, no less. Are there any good books or online
guides out there for learning intermediate [Free]DOS 16-bit C programming?
 

The good old books of C programming showed how to program for a DOS 
environment, years ago. Anyway check help about DOS.H
You may need some more information about DOS itself if you are going to 
get into complex projects. Search (google, amazon) The FreeDOS KERNEL, 
Undocumented DOS, Undocumented PCs, DOS Internals, and other 
unvaluable jewels about that.

Also, do I need a native FreeDOS environment to compile in, 

No, you can compile in NT DOS boxes (at times I do that), or I guess in 
DOSEMU boxes, or under any OS that can run the compilers.

or can I
cross-compile with gcc?
No, you shouldn't use GCC at all, because GCC (I guess you mean DJGPP) 
produces 32-bit DOS code (DPMI), and in DOS code should be mostly 16-bit

Also also, is there a good IDE that'll run in
Windows XP, or do I need to use RHIDE in something like DOSBox? 

Search for SETEdit. It's good enough for me when programming in NASM or 
Pascal (for C I use Borland's environments)

I remember
using RHIDE on my old old old 486 Laptop the first time I started playing
around with DOS code, but it was unbearably slow.
 

It won't be slow if you use it in a fast machine...

Aitor

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Re: [Freedos-user] Suggestion...

2004-04-25 Thread Bernd Blaauw
  I will put one online within 24 hours.
  if only wanting to update binary files, use files contained in the
diskette image

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/beta9rc5/addon/odin7bin.zip

  Bernd




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Re: [Freedos-user] Writing Utilities for FreeDOS

2004-04-25 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

24--2004 18:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maus) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

JM Also, do I need a native FreeDOS environment to compile in, or can I
JM cross-compile with gcc?

 No, you can't. Also as with VC and BCB - all them don't support 16-bit
target platform.

JM Also also, is there a good IDE that'll run in Windows XP,

 Yes, OpenWatcom includes one.




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