Re: [Freedos-user] Dictionnary program not working
Hello, thanks so much for having taken the time to respond with several tracks to explore ! It will be hard to fix when the software isn't freely available. Most of us aren't willing to download random (still copyrighted) abandonware.:-/ Understood. I was wondering whether dosemu wouldn't offer some debugging facilities that could be useful here... It does, but I don't know what or how to use it, sadly. You'll have to wait for (or nag) Eric Auer or Bart Oldeman or similar to chime in. Or just read the online manuals: http://www.dosemu.org/docs/ Will give the manuals a try, thanks. Incidentally: does dosemu have an (active) IRC channel ? There is one mentioned on the web site but I was unable to connect to the server... But here's two horribly wimpy suggestions to isolate the problem. 1). Download File 5.09: http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/file509.zip?attredirects=0 Done. Put file.exe in your %PATH% C:\path C:\FILE;%PATH% C:\path PATH=C:\FILE;z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu and set MAGIC=/dev/c/fdos/magic.mgc (or similar, /dev/c/ means C:\). C:\set MAGIC=C:\FILE\MAGIC.MGC Now try file dictionary.exe (or whatever, etc.) to see if it uses any special .EXE format or DOS extender. It seems something has not been set up appropriately: C:\file ROBERT\MENU.EXE C, 0: Warning: using regular magic file `\FILE\MAGIC.MGC' \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 1: Warning: offset `◈◈↑' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 1: Warning: type `◈◈↑' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 6: Warning: offset `Firmware v' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 6: Warning: type `Firmware v' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 7: Warning: offset `◈' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 7: Warning: type `◈' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 8: Warning: offset `◈' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 8: Warning: type `◈' invalid file.exe: could not find any magic files! Note: I downloaded the archive under Linux. I went to ~/.dosemu/drive_c Created a FILE directory there, went into it and unpacked the archive there with unzip, I hope that was right. 2). Download KGB 1.04: http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/kgb104.zip kgb.exe (start the TSR) dictionary.exe (run the program) kgb /u (unload TSR) edit c:\history.dat (see what files it tried to open) Here is history.dat: OpenFile-R : robert OpenFile-R : menu.exe OpenFile-R : menu.exe Exec: E:\ROBERT\MENU.EXE OpenFile-R : kgb.COM OpenFile-R : kgb.EXE OpenFile-R : kgb.EXE Exec: D:\KGB\KGB.EXE /u It seems it does not even try to execute the file... ? Who knows, maybe one of those two things will help somehow. :-/ Thanks again. So I guess solution one has to be tuned before it can be said whether it can or can't help. Cheers, Sébastien. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dictionnary program not working
Once I saw firmware in the output, I start to wonder if this program requires a dongle to operate. That was not uncommon for dictionary programs at the time, and is still seen today with USB dongles. Did you run this software on MSDOS previously, and did it require a hardware device? jh On Dec 28, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Shérab sebastien.hinde...@ens-lyon.org wrote: Hello, thanks so much for having taken the time to respond with several tracks to explore ! It will be hard to fix when the software isn't freely available. Most of us aren't willing to download random (still copyrighted) abandonware.:-/ Understood. I was wondering whether dosemu wouldn't offer some debugging facilities that could be useful here... It does, but I don't know what or how to use it, sadly. You'll have to wait for (or nag) Eric Auer or Bart Oldeman or similar to chime in. Or just read the online manuals: http://www.dosemu.org/docs/ Will give the manuals a try, thanks. Incidentally: does dosemu have an (active) IRC channel ? There is one mentioned on the web site but I was unable to connect to the server... But here's two horribly wimpy suggestions to isolate the problem. 1). Download File 5.09: http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/file509.zip?attredirects=0 Done. Put file.exe in your %PATH% C:\path C:\FILE;%PATH% C:\path PATH=C:\FILE;z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu and set MAGIC=/dev/c/fdos/magic.mgc (or similar, /dev/c/ means C:\). C:\set MAGIC=C:\FILE\MAGIC.MGC Now try file dictionary.exe (or whatever, etc.) to see if it uses any special .EXE format or DOS extender. It seems something has not been set up appropriately: C:\file ROBERT\MENU.EXE C, 0: Warning: using regular magic file `\FILE\MAGIC.MGC' \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 1: Warning: offset `◈◈↑' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 1: Warning: type `◈◈↑' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 6: Warning: offset `Firmware v' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 6: Warning: type `Firmware v' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 7: Warning: offset `◈' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 7: Warning: type `◈' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 8: Warning: offset `◈' invalid \FILE\MAGIC.MGC, 8: Warning: type `◈' invalid file.exe: could not find any magic files! Note: I downloaded the archive under Linux. I went to ~/.dosemu/drive_c Created a FILE directory there, went into it and unpacked the archive there with unzip, I hope that was right. 2). Download KGB 1.04: http://archives.scovetta.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/kgb104.zip kgb.exe (start the TSR) dictionary.exe (run the program) kgb /u (unload TSR) edit c:\history.dat (see what files it tried to open) Here is history.dat: OpenFile-R : robert OpenFile-R : menu.exe OpenFile-R : menu.exe Exec: E:\ROBERT\MENU.EXE OpenFile-R : kgb.COM OpenFile-R : kgb.EXE OpenFile-R : kgb.EXE Exec: D:\KGB\KGB.EXE /u It seems it does not even try to execute the file... ? Who knows, maybe one of those two things will help somehow. :-/ Thanks again. So I guess solution one has to be tuned before it can be said whether it can or can't help. Cheers, Sébastien. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS in a Qemu box.
Also, you can try to NOT use emm386 and to NOT install USB and/or network drivers: With the FreeDOS 1.0 ISO, I remember that those two were very slow in detecting hardware etc. Another thing that you can try is using Bernd's preview of FreeDOS 1.1 which is much more up to date, including much newer drivers - thanks Bernd! :-) I wouldn't try a FULL install if you're too impatient. Honestly, damn slow sounds like an exaggeration, how long is it taking? 30 minutes? More than an hour? Just be patient. I know that's not what you want to hear, but it's either that or try something else (VMware Player? Bernd and Eduardo prefer that). For myself, I am partial to VirtualBox, when I need a full emulator. But DOSemu does the job for my FreeDOS work. ;-) jh-- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dictionnary program not working
jhall (2011/12/28 08:34 -0600): Once I saw firmware in the output, I start to wonder if this program requires a dongle to operate. That was not uncommon for dictionary programs at the time, and is still seen today with USB dongles. Did you run this software on MSDOS previously, Yes. and did it require a hardware device? No. The program was not protected by anything. Sébastien. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dictionnary program not working
Hi, On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Shérab sebastien.hinde...@ens-lyon.org wrote: http://www.dosemu.org/docs/ Will give the manuals a try, thanks. A quick check seems to indicate it's kinda old docs, but maybe it's better than nothing. Incidentally: does dosemu have an (active) IRC channel ? There is one mentioned on the web site but I was unable to connect to the server... No idea, but presumably empty like all other (good) IRC channels. :-/ But here's two horribly wimpy suggestions to isolate the problem. 1). Download File 5.09: http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/file509.zip?attredirects=0 Done. Put file.exe in your %PATH% C:\path C:\FILE;%PATH% C:\path PATH=C:\FILE;z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu I assume c:\file\ is a directory here (with file.exe and magic.mgc inside). and set MAGIC=/dev/c/fdos/magic.mgc (or similar, /dev/c/ means C:\). C:\set MAGIC=C:\FILE\MAGIC.MGC No, you did it wrong, try this (literally): set MAGIC=/dev/c/file/magic.mgc Now try file dictionary.exe (or whatever, etc.) to see if it uses any special .EXE format or DOS extender. It seems something has not been set up appropriately: C:\file ROBERT\MENU.EXE file.exe: could not find any magic files! You didn't set it up the *nix way. It was a quick compile, so I didn't try fixing the *nix-specific behavior, sorry. Here is history.dat: OpenFile-R : robert OpenFile-R : menu.exe OpenFile-R : menu.exe Exec : E:\ROBERT\MENU.EXE OpenFile-R : kgb.COM OpenFile-R : kgb.EXE OpenFile-R : kgb.EXE Exec : D:\KGB\KGB.EXE /u It seems it does not even try to execute the file... ? (shrug) Dunno, maybe your installation is incomplete?? Who knows, maybe one of those two things will help somehow. :-/ Thanks again. So I guess solution one has to be tuned before it can be said whether it can or can't help. Sorry it didn't help more. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
