Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website changes

2014-12-19 Thread Corbin Davenport
It looks much better, but the layout seems to be a bit odd on mobile (see http://imgur.com/oi2voVx).
I have some free time later today, I could make a snippet of CSS to make it a bit more responsive/fluid for smaller screens.
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:Hi all!Just a quick note to let everyone know about some changes to the FreeDOS website.I've been working on improving the FreeDOS website, and tonight I started making the first user-visible changes. Up until now, the changes have been pretty minor, and probably invisible to most folks (some link cleanup, behind-the-scenes cleanup, fixing typos, ... that sort of thing).You may notice that the "Welcome to FreeDOS" section at the top is no longer "collapsed." Before, you had to click on each question to see the answer - and the website would only show one "answer" at a time. Not everyone likes this behavior (including me, at least recently) so I am changing it. In time, I'll make this cleaner. It's too long right now. Maybe I'll re-write it, or restructure the page to do without it. I'll work on that over the holiday break.Other than that, I haven't made any dramatic changes to the website. I only want to clean things up, not change everything. No structural changes. No big changes to the design or anything.What do you think of the website improvements so far?


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website changes

2014-12-19 Thread Jim Hall
Oops. I may have dropped the css section that uses a smaller logo on
small/mobile screens. That prevents the artifacts you see here. I'll put
that back over the break. Thanks for pointing that out.

Also over the break, I'll make the Welcome section easier to read,
especially on mobile.
On Dec 19, 2014 6:12 AM, Corbin Davenport davenportcor...@gmail.com
wrote:

 It looks much better, but the layout seems to be a bit odd on mobile (see
 http://imgur.com/oi2voVx).

 I have some free time later today, I could make a snippet of CSS to make
 it a bit more responsive/fluid for smaller screens.

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 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:

 Hi all!

 Just a quick note to let everyone know about some changes to the FreeDOS
 website.

 I've been working on improving the FreeDOS website, and tonight I started
 making the first user-visible changes. Up until now, the changes have been
 pretty minor, and probably invisible to most folks (some link cleanup,
 behind-the-scenes cleanup, fixing typos, ... that sort of thing).

 You may notice that the Welcome to FreeDOS section at the top is no
 longer collapsed. Before, you had to click on each question to see the
 answer - and the website would only show one answer at a time. Not
 everyone likes this behavior (including me, at least recently) so I am
 changing it. In time, I'll make this cleaner. It's too long right now.
 Maybe I'll re-write it, or restructure the page to do without it. I'll work
 on that over the holiday break.

 Other than that, I haven't made any dramatic changes to the website. I
 only want to clean things up, not change everything. No structural changes.
 No big changes to the design or anything.

 What do you think of the website improvements so far?



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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website changes

2014-12-19 Thread Jim Hall
FYI, if you want to send me files, send them to me off list.
On Dec 19, 2014 7:31 AM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:

 Oops. I may have dropped the css section that uses a smaller logo on
 small/mobile screens. That prevents the artifacts you see here. I'll put
 that back over the break. Thanks for pointing that out.

 Also over the break, I'll make the Welcome section easier to read,
 especially on mobile.
 On Dec 19, 2014 6:12 AM, Corbin Davenport davenportcor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 It looks much better, but the layout seems to be a bit odd on mobile (see
 http://imgur.com/oi2voVx).

 I have some free time later today, I could make a snippet of CSS to make
 it a bit more responsive/fluid for smaller screens.

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 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:

 Hi all!

 Just a quick note to let everyone know about some changes to the FreeDOS
 website.

 I've been working on improving the FreeDOS website, and tonight I started
 making the first user-visible changes. Up until now, the changes have been
 pretty minor, and probably invisible to most folks (some link cleanup,
 behind-the-scenes cleanup, fixing typos, ... that sort of thing).

 You may notice that the Welcome to FreeDOS section at the top is no
 longer collapsed. Before, you had to click on each question to see the
 answer - and the website would only show one answer at a time. Not
 everyone likes this behavior (including me, at least recently) so I am
 changing it. In time, I'll make this cleaner. It's too long right now.
 Maybe I'll re-write it, or restructure the page to do without it. I'll work
 on that over the holiday break.

 Other than that, I haven't made any dramatic changes to the website. I
 only want to clean things up, not change everything. No structural changes.
 No big changes to the design or anything.

 What do you think of the website improvements so far?



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Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-19 Thread Dale E Sterner
Tax time; my dos Qpro macros will be adding up my incomes so I can pay
the man.
Improved tech makes things better; just ask Sony. Broadband use made the
hacks possible.
My dial up is so slow it takes a half hour to download a virus, plenty of
time to hit stop.

DS

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:35:20 -0500 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com
writes:
 On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  On 12/16/2014 4:01 PM, dmccunney wrote:
 
  DOS is not dead but people need to treat DOS as DOS, not as a 
 second
  coming of Linux...
 
  The fundamental issue for DOS is exactly what you *do* with it, 
 and
  *why* you might use DOS in preference to something else like 
 Linux.
  The fact that something  *can* run DOS doesn't necessarily mean 
 it
  *should*.
 
  Works the other way around as well. Just because you can get basic 
 web
  browsing features or other uses of the Internet on (Free)DOS, 
 doesn't
  mean you should either...
 
 Precisely.  I don't even try.
 
 In my case, the question of Why use DOS? is mostly for fun, and 
 to
 run a few ancient DOS apps I still use.  The machine that runs
 FreeDOS is largely a testbed to see what performance I can wring out
 of limited hardware.  It more-or-less runs Win2K (but *not* XP) and 
 a
 couple of flavors of Linux, and FreeDOS.  Win2K and Linux plod 
 along.
 FreeDOS flies on it.
 
 But I *don't* try to surf the web from it, in any OS.  It's simply 
 too
 slow, even with a CAT5 connection to a port on my router.  I also
 don't attempt to watch YouTube.  Audio is okay, but video is a 
 series
 of still pictures.  The machine simply isn't powerful enough to do
 such things acceptably.
 
 My desktop is a refurb Dell unit, with a quad-core Xeon CPU at 
 2.4ghz,
 8GB RAM, and boots from a 240GB SSD, with an ATI video card with a 
 gig
 of video RAM.  It multi-boots Win 7 Pro and Ubuntu 14.04, nad has a
 CAT5 connection to my router, which connects to a 100mbit feed from 
 my
 ISP.  It's a pleasure to use.  Things like web surfing and YouTube 
 are
 done on it.
 
 I can even run the few old DOS apps on it, using the vDOS fork of 
 the
 open source DOSBox emulator.  vDOS is Windows specifric and intended
 to run character mode business apps.  (There is extensive discussion
 on the WordStar list on how to configure it to run WS 7 on 64 bit 
 Win
 7 and Win 8.1 machines.)
 
 Folks complaining about the problems involved in trying to surf the
 web and view video from DOS are frankly wasting their time.  It 
 might
 be theoretically possible to enhance DOS support for such things, 
 but
 it would be a significant development effort.  Who would do it, and
 why would they bother?  No one is going to *pay* to have it done, 
 and
 there are more rewarding things to code for fun.
 
  Ralf
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Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-19 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote:

 Improved tech makes things better; just ask Sony. Broadband use made the
 hacks possible.

Broadband made hacks delivery *faster*.  They were already *possible*.
Viruses were a pestilence back when everything was still DOS and dial
up.

 My dial up is so slow it takes a half hour to download a virus, plenty of
 time to hit stop.

Assuming you know what you're downloading *is* a virus.  But if you
know that, why are you downloading?

But that's a thought: we should all insure security by abjuring
broadband and going back to dial up.

Yeah, right.  Not *possible* where I am.  Verizon is making copper go
away as fast as it can, and for good reason.  I wouldn't do it if it
*were* possible.  Too much of what I do requires broadband.

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Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-19 Thread Bob Schwier
I'll miss copper because it continued to serve in a black out.  Without power
there is no fiber optic.
bs

On Fri, 12/19/14, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 
2.60)
 To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. 
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Friday, December 19, 2014, 2:34 PM
 
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at
 1:00 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com
 wrote:
 
  Improved tech
 makes things better; just ask Sony. Broadband use made
 the
  hacks possible.
 
 Broadband made hacks delivery *faster*.  They
 were already *possible*.
 Viruses were a
 pestilence back when everything was still DOS and dial
 up.
 
  My
 dial up is so slow it takes a half hour to download a virus,
 plenty of
  time to hit stop.
 
 Assuming you know what
 you're downloading *is* a virus.  But if you
 know that, why are you downloading?
 
 But that's a thought: we
 should all insure security by abjuring
 broadband and going back to dial up.
 
 Yeah, right.  Not *possible*
 where I am.  Verizon is making copper go
 away as fast as it can, and for good reason. 
 I wouldn't do it if it
 *were*
 possible.  Too much of what I do requires broadband.
 
  DS
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