Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and Turbo C 2.01
Thanks. I'll look into OpenWatcom. I see it is supposed to have a nice debugger and Id used it for Doom. Interesting. > On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Rugxulowrote: > > Hi, > >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Abe Mishler wrote: >> >> Is anybody else running the Turbo C 2.01 IDE under FreeDOS? I appreciate any >> help towards this end. > > I don't normally use IDEs. The very few times I do, I use TC++101 > instead (which has less bugs and is noticeably faster code). While > Embarcadero has annoying restrictions, you can still allegedly > download (newer) TC++ but maybe have to (also) download (Windows) > trialware/bloatware first. So please try that, it's a better choice. > > https://edn.embarcadero.com/article/21751 > > Just for completeness, you can dual boot MS-DOS and FreeDOS with > MetaKern. But I don't think it's necessary, and I'd honestly be > surprised if this was truly a kernel bug. > > The only quirk I remember hearing about in recent years was slowdown > (in Borland IDEs) due to FDAPM, but that can be worked around by using > "ADV:REG" instead. > > Sorry if that's not quite the perfect solution you want to hear. > Honestly, we have so many other compilers that few consider Borland > tools that crucial anymore. (I know some people prefer them, but we > don't *need* them, thankfully.) > > If all you want is error checking (jump to compiler errors in editor), > I think even a DJGPP compile of JED supported that. Heck, a lot of > text editors (TPE?) also supported such error-jumping. > > http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TPE > > Normally, since it is OSI-approved and supports cross-compilation, > OpenWatcom is preferred for FreeDOS development. It doesn't come with > a (DOS) IDE, only a vi clone. IIRC, although I only tried it maybe > once, there was also an old third-party (DOS, Watcom) IDE called > PowerView, which you can find (and sources) on Simtel mirror under > /pgmutl/ (pvide50.zip, pvidesrc.zip): > > http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel0101/simtel/pgmutl/ > > Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. (DJGPP has old/dead > RHIDE, and FPC has its own [Go32v2] IDE.) > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and Turbo C 2.01
Hi, On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Abe Mishlerwrote: > > Is anybody else running the Turbo C 2.01 IDE under FreeDOS? I appreciate any > help towards this end. I don't normally use IDEs. The very few times I do, I use TC++101 instead (which has less bugs and is noticeably faster code). While Embarcadero has annoying restrictions, you can still allegedly download (newer) TC++ but maybe have to (also) download (Windows) trialware/bloatware first. So please try that, it's a better choice. https://edn.embarcadero.com/article/21751 Just for completeness, you can dual boot MS-DOS and FreeDOS with MetaKern. But I don't think it's necessary, and I'd honestly be surprised if this was truly a kernel bug. The only quirk I remember hearing about in recent years was slowdown (in Borland IDEs) due to FDAPM, but that can be worked around by using "ADV:REG" instead. Sorry if that's not quite the perfect solution you want to hear. Honestly, we have so many other compilers that few consider Borland tools that crucial anymore. (I know some people prefer them, but we don't *need* them, thankfully.) If all you want is error checking (jump to compiler errors in editor), I think even a DJGPP compile of JED supported that. Heck, a lot of text editors (TPE?) also supported such error-jumping. http://texteditors.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TPE Normally, since it is OSI-approved and supports cross-compilation, OpenWatcom is preferred for FreeDOS development. It doesn't come with a (DOS) IDE, only a vi clone. IIRC, although I only tried it maybe once, there was also an old third-party (DOS, Watcom) IDE called PowerView, which you can find (and sources) on Simtel mirror under /pgmutl/ (pvide50.zip, pvidesrc.zip): http://cd.textfiles.com/simtel0101/simtel/pgmutl/ Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. (DJGPP has old/dead RHIDE, and FPC has its own [Go32v2] IDE.) -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS and Turbo C 2.01
On 3/19/2017 9:29 PM, Ira Minor wrote: I run Turbo C 2.01 on FreeDOS 1.2 and MS-DOS 7.1 with no problems of any kind. Do you run the command line compiler or are you using the IDE, as Abe was trying to do? I haven't really bothered with TC 2.01 as I own Borland C(++)3.1 and with that one, there used to be issues finding the right memory manager setup. Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user