Hi,

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:00 PM Jan van Wijk <ecomstat...@dfsee.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 21:15:30 -0500 Rugxulo wrote:
> >
> >> The user-interface library 'TxWin' I use for my disk-tool is open-source.
> >
> >I've never used it, but I pointed Jim Hall to it (although I don't
> >think even he used it) a few years ago. But that was old versions
> >(txwin1xx.zip and txwin2xx.zip). A quick glance shows LGPL, is that
> >still true? Do you mind if we mirror these (old and/or new) to iBiblio
> >for us?
>
> No not at all, I have just uploaded the latest version, including an update
> to some documentation/presentations in PDF format, it is at:

PDF is a bit bloated and DOS-unfriendly, but I understand your need to
use something modern and accessible (or whatever). I don't remember
every obscure PDF tool port to DOS (very few, but some indeed halfway
work), so I don't know if it would even be viable to try to convert
them to plain text or not. (Maybe, if assuming few errors.) Honestly,
probably too much work for too little gain.

So which PDFs exactly should be mirrored? All five (5) of them?? (Oh,
already included inside TXWINLIB.ZIP, right?)

>         https://www.dfsee.com/download/#txwin

First of all, typo, it says "110 Mb", which would have been quite
startling! But in reality it only jumped from 7 to 10 Mb instead. (Big
relief!) I haven't looked closely at why the increase, but I assume
precompiled libs. (No, I only see [Mach-O] .a files.)

> You would need to mirror at least the ZIP file available there, and perhaps
> provide a link back to to this original page, for additional info ...

That would be easy (in theory). I would still like to maybe look closer first.

> >> For the DOS target, it needs the OpenWatcom compiler to build anything,
> >> so is probably not easy to use natively on FreeDOS.
> >
> >OW 1.9 runs natively in DOS. Or did you mean the makefiles need
> >adjustments? (Long cmdlines for OW tools need an asterisk/star '*' !!)
>
> Never tested that, but should not be that hard to get working
> when all the OpenWatcom stuff is available.
>
> It only uses WMAKE, the C-compiler and WLINK

It should work fine, then. Moreso I was worried because I didn't see
any precompiled libs. (Though your page says builds atop Windows, too,
so that's fairly ubiquitous. Better than atop OS/2 only.)

Actually, I think somewhere you include some binaries, which
themselves are needed to rebuild some parts: TEE (OS/2 only), LXLITE
(OS/2 only), and UPX (DOS, apparently old 1.25 with non-free NRV
instead of libre UCL).

Just FYI, I don't have any OS/2 variant (although I'm barely aware
they exist, e.g. Arca Noae), so like most of us, I can't run or
rebuild such things like LXLITE. Although I do have Virtual Pascal
lying around, but I only seldomly use it for Win32. Also, I don't
recall LXLITE being portable (no surprise). There is a TEE clone for
FreeDOS (and I think one in DJGPP too), but it's rarely used in a
single-tasking OS (unless output is very terse). We do have UPX-UCL
built for older versions of UPX (e.g. 3.09 while latest non-free NRV
is 3.95 from two months ago), so it shouldn't be hard to rebuild that,
too.

* 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/tee.html
* http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?key=lxlite&pushbutton=Search
* 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/upx/upx-ucl-3.09.zip

I'm overthinking it, of course, so maybe it's not crucial that it's
all rebuildable atop DOS proper. But for mirroring to iBiblio we try
to keep things totally free/libre these days. (I see you linked to
some downloads of Win32 and OS/2 compiles of Wget. There's also a
fairly recent [2015?] DJGPP DOS build that works, but of course you
need a working packet driver. No idea if that kind of thing is
supported by DOS under OS/2. I think SwsVpkt worked under older
Windows.)

* http://mik.dyndns.pro/dos-stuff/bin/wget119b.7z

(BTW, not having rebuilt Wget myself nor verifying its source
dependencies is the main reason I haven't mirrored that to iBiblio
either. Ugh, tedious and inconvenient.)

I'll take another closer look later and email Jim Hall again to try to
iron out some details.

Thanks for your time in answering.


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