Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-13 Thread Mallory Worlton
Regrettably, I ran into another problem: apparently the CD I burned was 
roughed up too badly for the installation to complete.  It died while 
trying to install UDVD2, due to a read error.  And that was my last 
CD-R.  So I'll have to go buy some more and make a new one.


On 2020-03-13 10:47 p.m., Rugxulo wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 6:42 PM Mallory Worlton  wrote:

My computer is a Dell Optiplex 433/L with 16 MB of RAM and a 486
processor.

It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS.
Those must've been built like tanks. (Mine, sadly, is disconnected.)


It has a 270 MB hard drive, a floppy drive, and a CD drive.
The CD drive is connected through my sound card, a Sound Blaster Pro 2.
The installer can't seem to find my CD drive.  How can I fix this?

I see you've already figured this out (found drivers), but just for
future reference for others:

* http://btmgr.sf.net/

"
Booting from CD-ROM
Smart BootManager supports booting from almost all kinds of IDE ATAPI
CD-ROM, including PCMCIA CD-ROMs. You can let BIOS boot from C: only
and assign a password for it, then you can boot from CD-ROM with Smart
BootManager easily, while other guy couldn't. If you have a Laptop
computer with a special PCMCIA CD-ROM which BIOS does not support
booting from, Smart BootManager can help you make it easy!
"


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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-13 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 6:42 PM Mallory Worlton  wrote:
>
> My computer is a Dell Optiplex 433/L with 16 MB of RAM and a 486
> processor.

It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS.
Those must've been built like tanks. (Mine, sadly, is disconnected.)

> It has a 270 MB hard drive, a floppy drive, and a CD drive.
> The CD drive is connected through my sound card, a Sound Blaster Pro 2.
> The installer can't seem to find my CD drive.  How can I fix this?

I see you've already figured this out (found drivers), but just for
future reference for others:

* http://btmgr.sf.net/

"
Booting from CD-ROM
Smart BootManager supports booting from almost all kinds of IDE ATAPI
CD-ROM, including PCMCIA CD-ROMs. You can let BIOS boot from C: only
and assign a password for it, then you can boot from CD-ROM with Smart
BootManager easily, while other guy couldn't. If you have a Laptop
computer with a special PCMCIA CD-ROM which BIOS does not support
booting from, Smart BootManager can help you make it easy!
"


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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-13 Thread Mallory Worlton
I did some digging and found appropriate drivers.  I am now installing 
FreeDOS.  Thank you all for your assistance.


On 2020-03-13 5:04 p.m., ZB wrote:

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:46:28AM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:


CD-ROM connected to controllers on the sound card
might be overlooked by generic drivers.

They usually _will_ be "overlooked" - unless such soundcard has a jumper,
that can make the storage device, connected to its controller, bootable



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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-13 Thread ZB
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:46:28AM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:

> CD-ROM connected to controllers on the sound card
> might be overlooked by generic drivers.

They usually _will_ be "overlooked" - unless such soundcard has a jumper,
that can make the storage device, connected to its controller, bootable
-- 
regards,
Zbigniew


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Re: [Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-13 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

CD-ROM connected to controllers on the sound card
might be overlooked by generic drivers. Try to boot
using a floppy where you can manually add specific
drivers for your CD-ROM. If you already have another
DOS on the computer anyway, you can boot *that* and
then invoke the installer on the CD-ROM while using
your existing CD-ROM drivers.

Eric


> My computer is a Dell Optiplex 433/L with 16 MB of RAM and a 486
> processor.  It has a 270 MB hard drive, a floppy drive, and a CD drive. 
> The CD drive is connected through my sound card, a Sound Blaster Pro 2. 
> The installer can't seem to find my CD drive.  How can I fix this?



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[Freedos-user] Can't install FreeDOS

2020-03-13 Thread Mallory Worlton
My computer is a Dell Optiplex 433/L with 16 MB of RAM and a 486 
processor.  It has a 270 MB hard drive, a floppy drive, and a CD drive.  
The CD drive is connected through my sound card, a Sound Blaster Pro 2.  
The installer can't seem to find my CD drive.  How can I fix this?




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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-13 Thread dmccunney
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:24 PM  wrote:

> As far as USB floppy, that may or may not work in Windows XP and higher.  
> They definitely don't work in Windows 10.

You have a problem USB floppy drive or a problem Win10 installation, or both.

I have a NEC USB 3.5" floppy drive that works just fine plugged into a
USB hub on my HP Core i5 desktop running Win10 Pro.   It worked on a
previous Win10 Pro  machine upgraded from Win7 Pro, and on Win7 Pro
before that.  (And I recall it working on an old Acer notebook
dual-booting WinXP Hop0me and Lubuntu Linux, but I'm not dragging that
pout now to test.)
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Re: [Freedos-user] floppy drive won't format disk...

2020-03-13 Thread michael
The BIOS option is for a USB floppy drive.  I'm actually running a real floppy 
controller as mentioned.

I don't think this will work period because the BIOS on the Evoc isn't designed 
for a real floppy controller.

As far as USB floppy, that may or may not work in Windows XP and higher.  They 
definitely don't work in Windows 10.

March 12, 2020 7:14 AM, "Eric Auer"  wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 
>> Research suggests that ACPI breaks ISA floppy in Windows XP
> 
> Unlikely, if you ask me?
> 
>> Under Advanced -> SuperIO Configuration
>> 
>> OnBoard Floppy Controller Disabled
>> Floppy Drive Swap Disabled
> 
> You should probably enable your floppy controller again ;-)
> 
> Eric
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