Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Ok, so I got ATIFlash to run form Booting by disk, but it is not seeing the RX580, it is only seeing the original video card ( have to leave it in otherwise I don’t get the boot screen when holding down option) > On Apr 1, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > >> Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? > > To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use > the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server > workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible > to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the > ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had > more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP > graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > >> If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, >> this wouldn’t be an issue. > > Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has > never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went > for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have > to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea > whether that ever has been done successfully yet? > > Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC > anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple > new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) > for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS > from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put > the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD > should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or > shop whether they let you use their PC for the > task, which should take at most a few hours to > figure out and then just a few minutes to do? > > Regards, Eric > > PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version > of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. > Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to > find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi! > Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? To be honest, I am pessimistic. I once tried to use the real graphics card of a commercial VMWare server workstation for GPU calculations by making it visible to the OS inside the virtual computer and just got the ability to crash the real hardware :-p I actually had more luck to tune a DJGPP app into using 2 PCI or AGP graphics cards simultaneously by PCI bus config tricks. > If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, > this wouldn’t be an issue. Or from CD or DVD, but I guess the Mac firmware has never introduced PC compatible BIOS since they went for PC compatible CPU? So, as said, you would have to first load a CSM BIOS layer and I have no idea whether that ever has been done successfully yet? Given that Mac are a lot more expensive than PC anyway, you could maybe just acquire any simple new or 2nd hand PC with the right slot (PCIe?) for the graphics card, plug it there, boot DOS from CD or USB, update your graphics BIOS, put the graphics card back in the PC... Few 100 USD should be plenty. Or of course ask any friend or shop whether they let you use their PC for the task, which should take at most a few hours to figure out and then just a few minutes to do? Regards, Eric PS: It surprises me that you have no Mac version of the VGA BIOS update installer tool available. Maybe you just need the right Mac terminology to find whatever Apple calls the DOS tool you have? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Would that work if I have a second graphics card ? If the Mac Pro 5,1 would let you boot from USB, this wouldn’t be an issue. > On Apr 1, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi RJ, > > the short story is that VMWare creates a fully virtual > computer. You can not install VMWare on Apple to use a > DOS program to update the BIOS of your REAL VGA card. > > You would have to run the BIOS update tool on real > hardware. Maybe you can find an Apple tool for VGA > BIOS updates? Or you could plug the card in a PC > where you can boot DOS from USB stick or CD-ROM > on the real hardware to run your update tool? > > In theory, you can configure the commercial versions > of VMWare to make the actual graphics card visible > from the virtual computer, but then you have to stop > using the graphics card on the host OS and I do not > think you can run VMWare on your Mac while Mac OS is > not allowed to use your graphics card. Maybe if you > had TWO graphics cards and could tell Mac OS to not > use the one which you want to update... > > I think Mac OS has only newer-than-BIOS firmware, but > it might be possible to load a CSM firmware extension > to have PC BIOS compatibility and boot DOS on the Mac. > But I have no idea whether that can actually be done? > > Regards, Eric > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, RJ Givens wrote: I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card detected. Any insight on that? You cannot update the physical video card from within a virtual machine. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi RJ, the short story is that VMWare creates a fully virtual computer. You can not install VMWare on Apple to use a DOS program to update the BIOS of your REAL VGA card. You would have to run the BIOS update tool on real hardware. Maybe you can find an Apple tool for VGA BIOS updates? Or you could plug the card in a PC where you can boot DOS from USB stick or CD-ROM on the real hardware to run your update tool? In theory, you can configure the commercial versions of VMWare to make the actual graphics card visible from the virtual computer, but then you have to stop using the graphics card on the host OS and I do not think you can run VMWare on your Mac while Mac OS is not allowed to use your graphics card. Maybe if you had TWO graphics cards and could tell Mac OS to not use the one which you want to update... I think Mac OS has only newer-than-BIOS firmware, but it might be possible to load a CSM firmware extension to have PC BIOS compatibility and boot DOS on the Mac. But I have no idea whether that can actually be done? Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card detected. Any insight on that? > On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Felix G. wrote: > > Hi! > The C: drive does not map directly to a folder on your host machine. > What I would suggest, because it worked great for me, is that you > create an ISO image containing your files then mount that to your VM > as a CD ROM. > Note that files you copy off of CD ROM in the DOS context will have > the read-only attribute set, which may need to be removed with attrib > for some applications. > Hope this helps. > Best, > Felix > >> Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 00:25 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens >> : >> >> I’ve just installed Freedos 1.2 in VMWare on OSX. Does anyone know where I >> might be able to find the c: drive location? >> >> I need to flash a bios on my video card and need to drop some files in the >> FreeDos C: >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] C: location
Hi! The C: drive does not map directly to a folder on your host machine. What I would suggest, because it worked great for me, is that you create an ISO image containing your files then mount that to your VM as a CD ROM. Note that files you copy off of CD ROM in the DOS context will have the read-only attribute set, which may need to be removed with attrib for some applications. Hope this helps. Best, Felix Am Mi., 1. Apr. 2020 um 00:25 Uhr schrieb RJ Givens : > > I’ve just installed Freedos 1.2 in VMWare on OSX. Does anyone know where I > might be able to find the c: drive location? > > I need to flash a bios on my video card and need to drop some files in the > FreeDos C: > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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