Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
Hi Damon, Just want to ask a couple of quick questions. First, likely this is yes, the bios for your machine does support USB? Second, does the USB Dos tools you tried include the DOS driver made by Panasonic? I have not used MS Dos 6.22 personally in decades, and have never overlyed freedos at all, so will leave that aspect of your question to others. Kare On Thu, 22 Feb 2024, DAMON GRAY via Freedos-user wrote: Greetings all. I have a working MS-DOS system running on 6.2.2 but it has gigantical problems with the USB Mouse. I've attempted multiple USB DOS driver solutions. Some work half the time. Others not so much. I'm working on the assumption that FreeDos will handle the USB mouse and keyboard. But here's the challenge... I don't want to start from scratch. There was a lot involved in getting this system set up as it is, particularly with regard to the Gravis Ultrasound card. Is it possible to just "upgrade" this MS-DOS to FreeDos, or is starting from scratch my only option? I'm very much hoping that I'll be able install FreeDos over the top of MS-DOS. Thanks for any advice you can offer. Damon J. Gray Lynden, WA ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
On 2/22/2024 7:43 PM, DAMON GRAY wrote: Augh!! Ralf, that's so much not what I wanted to hear. Don't kill the messenger! LOL But, it is what it is. I was under the impression that FreeDos had dealt with the USB peripheral issue. Well, no. Just what exactly gave you that impression? No DOS is "USB aware", this is something that became mainstream AFTER the official DoD (Death of DOS). FreeDOS (just as any DOS) depends on the USB support in the BIOS of the machine it is running on. I have yet to find an older computer, with a proper BIOS (instead of (U)EFI) that would be required to run (Free)DOS in the first place, that would not work with a USB keyboard and/or mouse. Well, one exception is a weird HP Brio that would not work with a USB keyboard to actually get into the BIOS, so I had to keep a PS/2 keyboard around for that one. But it would work fine with USB keyboard and mouse once booted into the OS (any OS, I played with a couple the last time I had that machine out of storage). And CuteMouse has been working fine for me, without much fuss, on any machine, with any mouse, that I had the urge to use with a mouse. Don't play games though, so depending what your use case is, YMMV... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
Augh!! Ralf, that's so much not what I wanted to hear. But, it is what it is. I was under the impression that FreeDos had dealt with the USB peripheral issue. Okay. I'll keep working the issue from the UHCI and USB/DOS driver angle. Thanks!! > On 02/22/2024 7:26 PM PST Ralf Quint via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > On 2/22/2024 7:18 PM, DAMON GRAY via Freedos-user wrote: > > > Greetings all. > > > > I have a working MS-DOS system running on 6.2.2 but it has gigantical > > problems with the USB Mouse. I've attempted multiple USB DOS driver > > solutions. Some work half the time. Others not so much. > > > > I'm working on the assumption that FreeDos will handle the USB mouse and > > keyboard. But here's the challenge... > > > > I don't want to start from scratch. There was a lot involved in getting > > this system set up as it is, particularly with regard to the Gravis > > Ultrasound card. > > > > Is it possible to just "upgrade" this MS-DOS to FreeDos, or is starting > > from scratch my only option? I'm very much hoping that I'll be able install > > FreeDos over the top of MS-DOS. > > > > Thanks for any advice you can offer. > > > Yes, you could just "sys" the existing drive, in order to transfer the > FreeDOS kernel/basic system files. > > > But honestly, I doubt that this will solve your problems, as using a mouse, > ANY mouse, is not an issue of the OS being used, as neither MS-DOS 6.22 nor > FreeDOS have any mouse support/capabilities in the basic OS. To get mouse > support, you would need additional drivers, which would be the same drivers > for both systems. And there is no direct USB support in FreeDOS either, so in > order to use a USB mouse, you kind of depend on the support of the BIOS in > that machine to support the USB to PS/2/serial mouse conversion. That means > your basic problem is with your hardware, one way or another... > > > > Ralf > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
On 2/22/2024 7:18 PM, DAMON GRAY via Freedos-user wrote: Greetings all. I have a working MS-DOS system running on 6.2.2 but it has gigantical problems with the USB Mouse. I've attempted multiple USB DOS driver solutions. Some work half the time. Others not so much. I'm working on the assumption that FreeDos will handle the USB mouse and keyboard. But here's the challenge... I don't want to start from scratch. There was a lot involved in getting this system set up as it is, particularly with regard to the Gravis Ultrasound card. Is it possible to just "upgrade" this MS-DOS to FreeDos, or is starting from scratch my only option? I'm very much hoping that I'll be able install FreeDos over the top of MS-DOS. Thanks for any advice you can offer. Yes, you could just "sys" the existing drive, in order to transfer the FreeDOS kernel/basic system files. But honestly, I doubt that this will solve your problems, as using a mouse, ANY mouse, is not an issue of the OS being used, as neither MS-DOS 6.22 nor FreeDOS have any mouse support/capabilities in the basic OS. To get mouse support, you would need additional drivers, which would be the same drivers for both systems. And there is no direct USB support in FreeDOS either, so in order to use a USB mouse, you kind of depend on the support of the BIOS in that machine to support the USB to PS/2/serial mouse conversion. That means your basic problem is with your hardware, one way or another... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] "Upgrade" from MS-DOS 6.2.2
Greetings all. I have a working MS-DOS system running on 6.2.2 but it has gigantical problems with the USB Mouse. I've attempted multiple USB DOS driver solutions. Some work half the time. Others not so much. I'm working on the assumption that FreeDos will handle the USB mouse and keyboard. But here's the challenge... I don't want to start from scratch. There was a lot involved in getting this system set up as it is, particularly with regard to the Gravis Ultrasound card. Is it possible to just "upgrade" this MS-DOS to FreeDos, or is starting from scratch my only option? I'm very much hoping that I'll be able install FreeDos over the top of MS-DOS. Thanks for any advice you can offer. Damon J. Gray Lynden, WA___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
