Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

2024-05-18 Thread Omar Yabar via Freedos-user
Do you mean Spinrite? in this link there are 5 versions 
https://winworldpc.com/product/spinrite/1x

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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

2024-05-18 Thread Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user
hmm, let me see if I can find the edition suggested by an engineer friend 
of mine for the person who built this last machine.

Karen



On Sat, 18 May 2024, tsiegel--- via Freedos-user wrote:

Does spinright still have a dos version of their software posted anywhere? I 
seem to recall, that was a really good utility.?? I unfortunately never had 
the money to purchase it, and I gave up on Norton Utilities after paying 50 
bucks more for the advanced version of 4.5, then got the same upgrade price 
as those who didn't, so I considered that bad marketing, poor customer 
retention, and just bailed on the whole Norton brand, and never dropped 
another dollar on anything Norton related, and that continues to this day.


I know spinright had some upgrades from their dos package into the early 
windows era, but I lost track after that, so no clue where it is now, or even 
if it's still around.?? Nonetheless, it was a good utility for hard disk 
maintenance when it was out.


On 5/15/2024 8:45 PM, Rober To via Freedos-user wrote:

 Hi everybody:

 Other suggestions:

 https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk


 http://www.partition-saving.com/



 En mi??rcoles, 15 de mayo de 2024, 03:46:41 CEST, Karen Lewellen via
 Freedos-user  escribi??:


 Eric,
 While I will work through this list of course, you would need to reach the
 part of that Wikipedia article that talks of Norton 8, I honestly did not
 even start using a computer until 1989, and did not own a copy of Norton
 Utilities until?? after 200 at the earliest.
 I used it as an example, because the tools were grouped under the same
 organizational umbrella, designed to support it each other in solid
 diagnostic support if that makes sense.
 Kind of like spinwrite tools, instead of separate programs that may or may
 not play well together.
 will see how well these suggestions work with speech though.
 Thanks,
 Karen



 On Wed, 15 May 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote:

> 
>  Hi Karen,
> 
>  the utilities recommended by Rober To sound useful:
> 
>  HDAT2 harddisk repair and diagnostics ATA, ATAPI, SATA, USB, SCSI
> 
>  ASTRA Advanced Sysinfo Tool and Reporting Assistant
> 
>  HWiNFO system information, monitoring and diagnostics
> 
> > ?? Do you recall the items in norton utilities?
> 
>  There is a wikipedia article about them:
> 
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Utilities
> 
>  The first version in 1982 included:
> 
>  unerase - Freedos comes with a simple undelete tool

>  filefix - "repairs damaged files" (?)
>  disklook - apparently a floppy disk cluster map display?
> 
>  secmod - floppy disk sector changer (disk editor, I guess?)

>  filehide - Freedos attrib should be sufficient for that
>  bathide - related to filehide
> 
>  timemark - "displays date, time, elapsed time"

>  scratr - sets colors, you can use ANSI and PROMPT for that
>  reverse - sets colors to black on white
> 
>  clear - you can use cls for that

>  filesort - sorts directories on disk
>  diskopt - tunes floppy access speed
> 
>  beep - just beeps the speaker

>  print - prints files
> 
>  Which free and open tools for directory sorting and

>  disk editors do we have in the distro at this time?
> 
>  I guess diskopt works by creating an interlaced floppy

>  sector format, which tools do we have for this style?
> 
>  According to wikipedia, Norton Utilities 2.0 added filefind

>  and renames print to lprint because MS DOS 2.0 already came
>  with a tool called print itself.
> 
>  In version 3.0, you get additional tools for file size and

>  directory listings, system information, text search, wiping
>  of disks and files etc.
> 
>  Which tools do we recommend for directory listings, file size

>  info and wiping? For size info, I would use the GNU "du" tool,
>  which is available as DJGPP compiled DOS binary.
> 
>  What could we recommend for finding files and text? I guess

>  the GNU tools "find" and "grep" would be useful choices here?
>  Similar for "wipe".
> 
>  Version 3.1 adds unerase and unremove directory tools.
> 
>  New in version 4: Defrag tool (speed disk) and format recover.

>  The defrag tool is the same which MS DOS 6 bundled later on.
> 
>  New in version 4.5: "batch enhander" and a disk editor, the

>  ncache disk cache (faster than smartdrive / smartdrv) and diag.
> 
>  Version 5 improves the disk editor further and bundles 4DOS

>  in a variant called NDOS. By now, 4DOS is sort of free/open.
> 
>  Version 6 adds Win3.1 icons and "diskreet" and improves the

>  system info. The unerase tool now supports the same optional
>  delete tracking driver as MS / central point undelete does.
> 
>  Version 7 adds support for compressed disks (doublespace,

>  stacker and superstor formats) and norton disk doctor. Would
>  be good to know which features the disk doctor had exactly.
> 
>  The final DOS version 8 just adds some Win3.1 related tools.

>  Later versions gradually add Win9x, FAT32, WinNT etc. support
>  and features specific to Windows, like a 

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS diagnostic tools?

2024-05-18 Thread tsiegel--- via Freedos-user
Does spinright still have a dos version of their software posted 
anywhere? I seem to recall, that was a really good utility.  I 
unfortunately never had the money to purchase it, and I gave up on 
Norton Utilities after paying 50 bucks more for the advanced version of 
4.5, then got the same upgrade price as those who didn't, so I 
considered that bad marketing, poor customer retention, and just bailed 
on the whole Norton brand, and never dropped another dollar on anything 
Norton related, and that continues to this day.


I know spinright had some upgrades from their dos package into the early 
windows era, but I lost track after that, so no clue where it is now, or 
even if it's still around.  Nonetheless, it was a good utility for hard 
disk maintenance when it was out.


On 5/15/2024 8:45 PM, Rober To via Freedos-user wrote:

Hi everybody:

Other suggestions:

https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk


http://www.partition-saving.com/



En miércoles, 15 de mayo de 2024, 03:46:41 CEST, Karen Lewellen via 
Freedos-user  escribió:



Eric,
While I will work through this list of course, you would need to reach 
the

part of that Wikipedia article that talks of Norton 8, I honestly did not
even start using a computer until 1989, and did not own a copy of Norton
Utilities until  after 200 at the earliest.
I used it as an example, because the tools were grouped under the same
organizational umbrella, designed to support it each other in solid
diagnostic support if that makes sense.
Kind of like spinwrite tools, instead of separate programs that may or 
may

not play well together.
will see how well these suggestions work with speech though.
Thanks,
Karen



On Wed, 15 May 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-user wrote:

>
> Hi Karen,
>
> the utilities recommended by Rober To sound useful:
>
> HDAT2 harddisk repair and diagnostics ATA, ATAPI, SATA, USB, SCSI
>
> ASTRA Advanced Sysinfo Tool and Reporting Assistant
>
> HWiNFO system information, monitoring and diagnostics
>
>>  Do you recall the items in norton utilities?
>
> There is a wikipedia article about them:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Utilities
>
> The first version in 1982 included:
>
> unerase - Freedos comes with a simple undelete tool
> filefix - "repairs damaged files" (?)
> disklook - apparently a floppy disk cluster map display?
>
> secmod - floppy disk sector changer (disk editor, I guess?)
> filehide - Freedos attrib should be sufficient for that
> bathide - related to filehide
>
> timemark - "displays date, time, elapsed time"
> scratr - sets colors, you can use ANSI and PROMPT for that
> reverse - sets colors to black on white
>
> clear - you can use cls for that
> filesort - sorts directories on disk
> diskopt - tunes floppy access speed
>
> beep - just beeps the speaker
> print - prints files
>
> Which free and open tools for directory sorting and
> disk editors do we have in the distro at this time?
>
> I guess diskopt works by creating an interlaced floppy
> sector format, which tools do we have for this style?
>
> According to wikipedia, Norton Utilities 2.0 added filefind
> and renames print to lprint because MS DOS 2.0 already came
> with a tool called print itself.
>
> In version 3.0, you get additional tools for file size and
> directory listings, system information, text search, wiping
> of disks and files etc.
>
> Which tools do we recommend for directory listings, file size
> info and wiping? For size info, I would use the GNU "du" tool,
> which is available as DJGPP compiled DOS binary.
>
> What could we recommend for finding files and text? I guess
> the GNU tools "find" and "grep" would be useful choices here?
> Similar for "wipe".
>
> Version 3.1 adds unerase and unremove directory tools.
>
> New in version 4: Defrag tool (speed disk) and format recover.
> The defrag tool is the same which MS DOS 6 bundled later on.
>
> New in version 4.5: "batch enhander" and a disk editor, the
> ncache disk cache (faster than smartdrive / smartdrv) and diag.
>
> Version 5 improves the disk editor further and bundles 4DOS
> in a variant called NDOS. By now, 4DOS is sort of free/open.
>
> Version 6 adds Win3.1 icons and "diskreet" and improves the
> system info. The unerase tool now supports the same optional
> delete tracking driver as MS / central point undelete does.
>
> Version 7 adds support for compressed disks (doublespace,
> stacker and superstor formats) and norton disk doctor. Would
> be good to know which features the disk doctor had exactly.
>
> The final DOS version 8 just adds some Win3.1 related tools.
> Later versions gradually add Win9x, FAT32, WinNT etc. support
> and features specific to Windows, like a registry editor. Even
> a line of products for Apple Macintosh existed. Competitors to
> Norton Utilities: Central Point PC Tools, various smaller ones.
>
> The author of spinrite claims norton disk doctor is a rip of it:
> https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-666.htm
> Spinrite scans disks for recoverable files and even tries 

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI parlallel port card....

2024-05-18 Thread Daniel Essin via Freedos-user

https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/pci1pm

On 5/18/2024 12:54 PM, Roderick Klein via Freedos-user wrote:

Hello,

Are there any PCI cards that live at IO adress 378 so they are 
compatible with DOS ?


Thanks,

Roderick


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[Freedos-user] PCI parlallel port card....

2024-05-18 Thread Roderick Klein via Freedos-user

Hello,

Are there any PCI cards that live at IO adress 378 so they are 
compatible with DOS ?


Thanks,

Roderick


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