Re: [Freedos-user] Writing articles about FreeDOS
Nice. Work is keeping me super busy at the moment but once I have time to install it and give it a real try I plan on writing a post for my small corner of the Internet. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2022, at 7:46 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Thought you'd like to know: of all the articles published on > Opensource.com in January, my recap article about FreeDOS was the #3 > most-read article. > https://opensource.com/article/22/1/try-freedos > > So if you feel motivated to write for a tech website, and wonder if > they would be interested in a "FreeDOS" article, the answer is "Yes." > > It's a great way to contribute to FreeDOS without writing code. > > And now that we've released FreeDOS 1.3, this would be a great excuse > to write an article about FreeDOS. > > Just a suggestion for those who like to write. > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS
Well I'm admittedly late to the party on this one, but I guess I'll chime in anyway. I was born in '86 so by the time I started playing on computers it was in the Windows 95 days, and my first time actually using a computer with any real idea of what I was doing was on Windows 98. By that time everything I needed to do was GUI based so I never really used DOS and the first time I ever used a command-line tool was in college with XP systems. I started working in IT a couple years back and was more familiar with the Linux command line but I wanted to get a better feel for using it in Windows since that was what we used at work. I'm also fascinated by older and alternative tech so I setup a VM and installed a copy of MS-DOS 6 and started practicing it using an old DOS guide from the early 90's that I found on the Internet Archive. Shortly thereafter I heard Jim talking about FreeDOS with Bryan Lunduke and decided to give it a go. I primarily use it for distraction free writing (I'm boring and really like MS-EDIT, or whatever the built in text editor is), but I also enjoy the old games and exploring old programs like word processors, and the like. OpenGEM is also cool. I just wiped my old ThinkPad (T42) to install FreeDOS on actual hardware and look forward to getting more familiar with it. Dan On 4/14/2021 11:59 AM, Johnpaul Humphrey wrote: In light of the "DOS was dead" discussion, I wanted to ask a question. I was *born* after support was dropped for MS-DOS, so I can't claim nostalgia as my reason for use. Recently I installed FreeDOS on my modern HP-Pavilion laptop, alongside BSD, Linux, and plan9. I did this because I like DOS's speed and assembly programming. It worked fine after I fixed the beep bug with your help. So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS? Is it primarily nostalgia? Legacy program support? Speed? Note that I don't consider running legacy software a bad reason. I was shocked by how much good software has been "thrown away" because of its age. On Linux all my favorite software (vi, siag office, twm, motif ) was written before I was born. However, that is not my primary reason for using FreeDOS. my primary reason is because it is like the motorcycle of operating systems. It is lightweight, has no red tape to cut through to do things, and is monotasking. (Monotasking is also why I don't use it as much as I would like to, but why I use it at all.) I figured that if I had a different reason than what everybody assumes, that some of you might as well. Everyone seems to assume that DOS is used by people who are unable to cope with progress and have to run their ancient version of word perfect. If that is your reason, it is not a bad reason. I was thinking of eventually writing a 64-bit dos work [sort of] alike eventually, but it would not be able to support legacy programs due to segment offset addressing and a million other things. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Clear your calendar!
Awesome! I was about to install 1.2 on an old ThinkPad I've got but I think I'll wait and give the RC a go. On 4/20/2021 5:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: Clear your calendar and get ready! FreeDOS 1.3-RC4 is only days away. RC4 is in it’s final stage of testing and tweaking. There are loads of changes. Possibly more changes from RC3-RC4 than there was going from 1.2 to 1.3-RC1. :-) Jerome ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Recovery of a file on a non booting Windows computer
I agree that booting to a live Linux instance would be a better solution here. I've had to do this many times and honestly it doesn't really matter what live image you use. Mint is fine. I personally prefer Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu but it doesn't really matter. It should give you access to the Windows drive through the file manager (both graphical and CLI). On 4/14/2021 4:30 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user wrote: +1 on the Linux Mint recommendation. Out of all the Linuxi I've personally tried, I've found Mint to be quite user friendly and I would say it's a great place to start for those more familiar with a Windows-like interface. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 12:43 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 4/14/2021 5:19 AM, Stephanos wrote: Dear All I want to boot to freeDOS using a CD ROM. Then I want to insert a memory stick into the computer and copy a file from the Windows HDD onto the memory stick. Is this possible and if so which version of freeDOS do I use? If you are talking about any Windows newer than Windows ME, simply forget about this route. Use a Linux Live CD (I personally would recommend Linux Mint 20.1 Mate) and use that one instead... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Which DOS is "better/best" as the underlying DOS oper. sys. for Win FW 3.1.1. in a mult-boot PC ?
I’m not nearly as knowledgeable as the others who have responds but from what I’ve heard and experienced, Windows 3.11 for Workgroups works quite well with MS-DOS 6.22. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi there, > Interesting question. > Is there a reason why, if you intend running windows 3.11, that you do not > want to use the MS dos closely associated with that windows at the time? 5.0 > 6.0, or 6.22? > My guess about ms dos 7.1 is that it draws from a much later infrastructure. > I run that edition of DOS, but I do not use windows in any form. > Just starting the conversation, > Karen > > > >> On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, TheBigBlue Guard wrote: >> >> Hello FreeDOSers, >> >> How was your Halloween ? Mine was okay... No tricks yet ! >> >> My Q and Problem : >> >> I understand you need a DOS oper sys underlying Win For Workgroups 3.1.1 OS >> in a mult-boot native environment (no boxes / no emulators).Which DOS >> OS do you strongly recommend ? and why ? I have MS-DOS 7.1 install CD and >> was told NOT to rely on it for Win FW 3.1.1. - is this accurate and correct >> ? Can you use FreeDOS as the underlying OS ? >> >> Big Blue >> > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS - 486
That’s awesome everyone, thanks for the insight. It sounds a lot more involved
than I first expected. I’m going to read up on what you guys are talking about
and go from there!
> On Sep 15, 2020, at 7:05 AM, ZB wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 12:45:46PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
>
>> Actually you can even find relatively modern quad core
>> computers with IDE :-) The problem is that when you want
>> DOS compatible sound hardware, you want something with
>> ISA slots and those went out of fashion 20 years ago.
>
> Yes, that's the best choice - but if not available, then more recent mobo
> with chipset featuring DDMA ("Distributed DMA") also won't be that bad.
>
>> There are a few PCI soundcards with limited DOS support:
>> Some come with drivers which simulate a SoundBlaster, but
>> those do not work with protected mode games, while others
>> use hardware tricks which only work on mainboard chipsets
>> which still have a bit of ISA style even while the boards
>> have no have actual ISA slots.
>
> That "bit of ISA style" is called DDMA.
>
> Probably the best choice among a few PCI-soundcards working under DOS will
> be Yamaha YMF-724/744.
>
> More about this:
> https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=48553
> https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46=48133#p497926
> --
> regards,
> Zbigniew
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS
I’ve seen video and I did play a fair number of DOS compatible games in my earlier years especially on Windows 95 and 98. I’m casually looking for an old 486 to tinker with too, so hopefully I’ll stumble upon something someone is looking to get rid of or a cheap one at Goodwill. > On Aug 18, 2020, at 11:12 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > Hi Dan: > >> I grew up in the 90’s and early 00’s with Windows and then moved over to >> Linux in 2010, but I’ve never really used DOS before other than running >> pings or ipconfigs in the Windows Command Prompt. > > A lot of things were different in those days. The speaker was built-in, and > intended just for beeps. To stop the OS, you switched-off the power. Games > had blocky video. It was easy to accidentally trash the installation! > -- > members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS
That’s awesome Jim, thanks! I’ll check these out. > On Aug 18, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi Dan - and welcome to the list! > > I think the wiki is a good place to start: > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > <http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> > > The "DOS Commands" list is probably a good wiki page to review: > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Dos_commands > <http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Dos_commands> > > You might also want to look at the FreeDOS Help page: > http://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm <http://help.fdos.org/en/index.htm> > > And I wrote an article for OpenSource about a "Gentle Introduction to > FreeDOS" that might be a good place to start, especially coming from Linux: > https://opensource.com/article/18/4/gentle-introduction-freedos > <https://opensource.com/article/18/4/gentle-introduction-freedos> > > Also, check out some of the videos on the FreeDOS YouTube channel. I've been > recording videos there for the last year or so. There's a "Using FreeDOS" > playlist that has several videos you'll find helpful to get started: > https://www.youtube.com/freedosproject > <https://www.youtube.com/freedosproject> > > > And I'm thinking about starting a new effort to clean up our documentation > and make it easier to read, especially for folks who are new to FreeDOS. So > there's probably more to come! > > Jim > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:58 AM Dan Scott <mailto:ogretrop...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi there everyone, this is my first time on a mailing list like this so if I > don’t get the etiquette right, please let me know. I grew up in the 90’s and > early 00’s with Windows and then moved over to Linux in 2010, but I’ve never > really used DOS before other than running pings or ipconfigs in the Windows > Command Prompt. I want to really learn DOS and figured FreeDOS was the place > to start but I don’t really know what I’m doing or how to get software and > such installed. Can anyone recommend any good resources for someone brand > new to the platform? > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] New to DOS
Hi there everyone, this is my first time on a mailing list like this so if I don’t get the etiquette right, please let me know. I grew up in the 90’s and early 00’s with Windows and then moved over to Linux in 2010, but I’ve never really used DOS before other than running pings or ipconfigs in the Windows Command Prompt. I want to really learn DOS and figured FreeDOS was the place to start but I don’t really know what I’m doing or how to get software and such installed. Can anyone recommend any good resources for someone brand new to the platform? ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
